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BP oil spill. People are paying attention NOW, aren't they? *mad face*

18,308 38,677 May 2, 2010 at 10:50 PM in Chat
Unless my "search" button is broken, I can't find any threads about this oil spill.

Aren't there some Loungers here from the Gulf Coast area, besides myself?

This thing is going to be bad. Really bad. Sadwalk


I grew up in Pensacola, FL and have spent my whole life on these beaches. Pensacola, Gulf Shores, Navarre, Destin ... they are beautiful. And they have already suffered so much devastation over the years from hurricanes and now they have to endure THIS?

If this goes on long enough and the oil makes it's way into the Florida Keys, that will be the end of the natural coral reef habitat. What about the dolphins and fish and turtles and birds?

Environmental disaster aside, I can't even imagine what the economic impact is going to be. Weeping

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bamachiqa
05-03-2010 at 07:21 AM.
05-03-2010 at 07:21 AM.
I'm down on the beach and it's so sad ... everyone is canceling their reservations. The cleaners are losing days at work left and right The fishermen/shrimpers are the ones I really pity. I really don't think it will actually hit our beaches, but we sure will feel it for ages to come.
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stomach
05-03-2010 at 07:22 AM.
05-03-2010 at 07:22 AM.
Quote from wuzzy :
It was done on purpose to drive up prices.
its possible buy highly unlickly. oil companies have absolute control regardless of the economy. they can simply bump prices up at will, which they do and us as consumers can do absolutely nothing about it since we are totally dependant on oil.

but you are correct. this will give them/corporate america an excellent excuse to increase the price of pretty much everything, gas, food, transportation costs, building materials, etc.
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zzyzzx
05-03-2010 at 07:28 AM.
05-03-2010 at 07:28 AM.
I'm curious as to exactly what a dispersant does.
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notnotadude
05-03-2010 at 07:29 AM.
05-03-2010 at 07:29 AM.
nobody cares, we invaded a sovereign nation for oil under false pretenses of the giving sanctuary to the boogie man...

We don't want to hear anything bad about oil as long as people we know are getting shot and killed for absolutely no good reason in other countries in the name of oil.
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vec
05-03-2010 at 07:32 AM.
05-03-2010 at 07:32 AM.
Quote from king_stupid :
nobody cares, we invaded a sovereign nation for oil under false pretenses of the giving sanctuary to the boogie man...

We don't want to hear anything bad about oil as long as people we know are getting shot and killed for absolutely no good reason in other countries in the name of oil.
Your user name makes a lot more sense to us now
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w3kn
05-03-2010 at 07:42 AM.
05-03-2010 at 07:42 AM.
I just can't figure out why they haven't figured how to at least stop it from leaking while repairs are made to the rig. It's just a sad situation for everybody.
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PhoenixFP
05-03-2010 at 08:07 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:07 AM.
Quote from vec :
Your user name makes a lot more sense to us now
laugh out loud

Quote from w3kn :
I just can't figure out why they haven't figured how to at least stop it from leaking while repairs are made to the rig. It's just a sad situation for everybody.
Did we invite the Army Corps of Engineers to figure out a solution?

Remember, they're the same people that thought dropping sandbags into a broken levee in NO during Katrina was a great way to stop the water flooding in.
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R1Budha
05-03-2010 at 08:12 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:12 AM.
Quote from PhoenixFP :
laugh out loud


Did we invite the Army Corps of Engineers to figure out a solution?

Remember, they're the same people that thought dropping sandbags into a broken levee in NO during Katrina was a great way to stop the water flooding in.
you mean the same army corps of engineers who designed the levees that WOULD have withstood the hurricane forces if they had been actually able to build them instead of having those plans scrapped by the local and federal governments at the time because it was "unlikely" to ever be needed and the cost versus what was built was simply too high?


oh yeah, those guys.....


they actually do know their shit pretty well. Look at how well they do on the Mississippi River in creating real flood plains designed to flood yearly instead of trying to hold back the floods every year and creating massive damage in populated areas.
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Bareborn
05-03-2010 at 08:12 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:12 AM.
Quote from vec :
Your user name makes a lot more sense to us now
LMAO

that is all
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w3kn
05-03-2010 at 08:13 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:13 AM.
Quote from PhoenixFP :
laugh out loud


Did we invite the Army Corps of Engineers to figure out a solution?

Remember, they're the same people that thought dropping sandbags into a broken levee in NO during Katrina was a great way to stop the water flooding in.
I was thinking more along the lines of Transocean, who does drilling and that kind of work. Since they operated the rig I would think they might have an idea how to stop it. But then again I haven't paid full attention to the news about it. Maybe they're already working on it.
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hAvAAck
05-03-2010 at 08:25 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:25 AM.
Quote from marg_fan :
AP report:



Finger pointing at its finest. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
Quote from huskercubfan :
FPFT.


Finger pointing for truth.
it's Haliburton's fault. The blowout occurred during the sealing process...
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PhoenixFP
05-03-2010 at 08:30 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:30 AM.
Quote from w3kn :
I was thinking more along the lines of Transocean, who does drilling and that kind of work. Since they operated the rig I would think they might have an idea how to stop it. But then again I haven't paid full attention to the news about it. Maybe they're already working on it.
I am a bit unsure of who is responsible for the problems. Is it really BP, who doesn't own the thing that caused this, or is it Transocean, who actually owns the rig, that we should be going after?

You would think though that Transocean would know how to fix the problems that their rigs cause though. I'd hate to think though about all of the oil we don't know about that is leaking out.
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thikthird
05-03-2010 at 08:38 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:38 AM.
i live on the gulf...i can hit a golf ball from my door into the gulf...so i've been checking this thing out a lot.
check here for up to date imagery...

http://www.pecad.fas.usda.gov/cro...ile=r13c10

i hate how it's being spun into a political issue instead of a environmental one.
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MsGal
05-03-2010 at 08:54 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:54 AM.
If you don't think it's going to hit the beaches, think again. LINK [usatoday.com]

Phoenix, I don't think the East coast of FL has anything to be worried about anytime soon. I used to live in Jacksonville and their beaches aren't anything great, true ... but I don't think this will affect them. Maybe months or years from now but not like it is about to impact the Gulf Coast states.

Dispersant chemicals are just that ... chemicals. While it may serve a purpose on the frontside of this disaster, it WILL cause problems on the backside. They know that the chemicals are harmful to wildlife AND people. Long-term consequences are inevitable.

Blame doesn't matter at this point. There will be enough "blame" to go around in the coming weeks, months, years even.

I can't believe that the media is spending more time on one poorly-made, failed explosive inside of a SUV than they are on this oil spill.
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Ms.arteest
05-03-2010 at 08:54 AM.
05-03-2010 at 08:54 AM.
Quote from R1Budha :
you mean the same army corps of engineers who designed the levees that WOULD have withstood the hurricane forces if they had been actually able to build them instead of having those plans scrapped by the local and federal governments at the time because it was "unlikely" to ever be needed and the cost versus what was built was simply too high?


oh yeah, those guys.....

they actually do know their shit pretty well. Look at how well they do on the Mississippi River in creating real flood plains designed to flood yearly instead of trying to hold back the floods every year and creating massive damage in populated areas.

Most people don't ever get the full story. The New Orleans Levee board had money to throw lavish $250K Mardi Gras parties, but not to put work into the levees. Bush and Clinton both approved matching funds to help with repairs, but they were never completed by the State of LA, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT IS TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEES. And as to the mighty Mississippi? We keep moving closer to where nature intended it to flood and re-fertilize the ground with sediment. The channelization of the river has robbed Louisiana of it's coast line for decades and every hurricane that comes along batters us even more. The Wetlands that we lose are our natural barrier to absorb the storm shock.

Quote from w3kn :
I was thinking more along the lines of Transocean, who does drilling and that kind of work. Since they operated the rig I would think they might have an idea how to stop it. But then again I haven't paid full attention to the news about it. Maybe they're already working on it.
They are working on this, but because of the depth (5000'), they must do it with robotics. The well had a remote-controlled mini-sub (like the one they used to explored the Titanic). They are working to close it off, but oil and gas pockets are under enormous pressure and it's a tedious job.

Quote from hAvAAck :
it's Haliburton's fault. The blowout occurred during the sealing process...
Oil wells are VERY dangerous. I used to work for an exploration company. All sorts of things can go wrong with the process. In this instance, oil apparently got into the wellbore and before anyone could react, it blew out. Rigs have multiple emergency shutdown buttons and none were pushed, indicating the it happened too fast for any of the crew members to react. They are WELL trained for this sort of emergency.

And yes, the coast is screwed. The shrimp and plankton are first to go, which feed the rest of the food chain. Seafood will be at a premium. I live very near the coast and already oyster beds are being shut down. So the next time you hear someone from Cape Cod fuss about having to look at a few windmills, come look at the Gulf at night and see how many rigs are lit up like small cities. and Obama was ready to drill more. Now all of a sudden, they're dangerous. Well, they always have been. Wake up and dig a little deeper to hear to whole story instead of believing only what you hear on TV (ANY station).
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