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11-11-2011 at 08:34 AM.
11-11-2011 at 08:34 AM.
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SD plan is to do away with the whole group function.
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move the diet support group
Give me a day or two and I'll get it set up. I found a place where the forum works nearly identical to this. I just have to get some time to refind it -- I think I saved it and set up. I think I actually already have a board set up and ready to go... if I can find it. It's beats the heck out of face book. I hate the way that works and really prefer this thread style where you can quote, etc.
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11-11-2011 at 10:13 AM.
11-11-2011 at 10:13 AM.
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I don't even know what that means but congrats on the Target clearance score!

I am so sleepy! I gotta get busy! Today is my DD 15th BDay Party!!! (Tomorrow is her actual official BDay 11-12-11)
I am in shock that that much time has flown past. I can't believe it has really been that long. And she wears the same size shoe as me now! Faint She used to try to steal my shoes all the time but they used to be to big for her.
happy birthday nikayla's DD!

slickdeals is trying to copy facebook in that you get a notification every time you do something like rep, post, reply, or somebody else reps you, replies to you, etc. it's all logged on your *public stream* on the first page of your *user cp* that for some reason the button is called *notifications and activity* but that's only one of many functions on that page.

all this info is also copied onto your public profile page so everyone who looks at it can see exactly which posts you've repped, who's repped you on which posts, where you've posted, who you've replied to, who's quoted you, etc.

you can make your own public stream private by changing the settings and one by one deleting all the entries in your public stream which is very time consuming for a heavy user like bailey. and unless somebody informed you of this, you wouldn't know about these changes at all.

however, if you rep somebody or quote somebody, it shows up on their public stream unless they make their's private too. so i will pretty much not be repping anybody anymore unless i know they've made their activity logs private. but i'm not going to remember that. i'm having a hard time even remembering NOT to rep people anymore.

there is also a work-around for replies to not be logged but it's not pretty looking in the threads.

why did sd do this? b/c they didn't like that reps had taken on other functions besides showing that somebody found the post useful. they want to move to away from repping to another system but in the meantime made everything transparent. imo, there is no perfect system. i think if they just disabled the message function w/ reps but left it private it would have eliminated a lot of the other uses sd'ers use reps for.

what is the difference between the function on facebook and on slickdeals? on facebook you *friend* people and *like* companies so only the entities you choose have access to your info and you can customize who sees what even if they do have access.

on slickdeals, all of slickdeals has access to you unless you make it private. and even if you make it private, what you do to other slickdealers is still public.

to be very honest, when i'm bored i google people i used to know in elementary school, high school, former coworkers, etc. i can certainly see on a slow sd day clicking on sd'ers public profiles to see what they've been doing. let's face it, there are sd'ers we don't like. i may be curious, acerbic when i'm po'd, and a tiny bit of a troublemaker if i think somebody is doing something wrong b/c i don't hesitate to say something most of the time. but i don't stalk people, i'm never nasty or hurtful. however, i do know there are sd'ers who are nasty, hurtful and stalkers.

therefore, we all need to be much more careful of our actions on sd, esp if you are a longtimer and have accumulated a few haters here and there. just b/c you make yourself private, your actions in regards to others are not.

another observation is that the new left-side menu bar on the not-user cp page is very similar to yahoo down to the gear symbol. and it is just as buggy as yahoo's update.

imo, there are too many redundancies on sd. i think the my account button on the right should be the notifications & activity button on the left b/c that's what it really is, along w/ the pulldown menu for easy access to the functions w/o having to actually go to the not-user cp page. i call it the not-user cp page b/c the button is called notifications & activity page although they say it's the new user cp page on the actual page. i wish they would be consistent. and it is really should be called the My Account* page.

Quote from gt6mk31 View quoted comment :
Give me a day or two and I'll get it set up. I found a place where the forum works nearly identical to this. I just have to get some time to refind it -- I think I saved it and set up. I think I actually already have a board set up and ready to go... if I can find it. It's beats the heck out of face book. I hate the way that works and really prefer this thread style where you can quote, etc.
sounds like a great idea to me! me no likey facebook all that much. i hate when companies go non-standard. i keep hitting the enter key when i want to skip a line and post instead. annoying! that's why i also do not like the yahoo update. when you hit the back button and the refresh button you get logged out! really annoying b/c my pages almost never load the first time!
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11-11-2011 at 11:48 AM.
11-11-2011 at 11:48 AM.
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SlowT, that's an excellent overview of the updates and privacy concerns stemming from the updates. Mind if I quote you in the printables thread to alert folks there that maybe don't venture out enough to see it? I just happened to see the messages in yours and contemptress' siggies that let me know of the privacy problem. Thanks for giving some of us (who need to be reading more!) a good heads up on this!!
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11-11-2011 at 12:02 PM.
11-11-2011 at 12:02 PM.
TCC Dieters -- send me a PM with Dieter in the subject. I have some new dieting info.
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slowtech
11-11-2011 at 12:10 PM.
11-11-2011 at 12:10 PM.
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SlowT, that's an excellent overview of the updates and privacy concerns stemming from the updates. Mind if I quote you in the printables thread to alert folks there that maybe don't venture out enough to see it? I just happened to see the messages in yours and contemptress' siggies that let me know of the privacy problem. Thanks for giving some of us (who need to be reading more!) a good heads up on this!!
sure, go ahead. one of the major purposes of the latest update is more transparency. unfortunately it didn't come w/ a user manual so it's taken group effort and way more time than necessary to work out exactly how everything's working now and tweak it, so that part wasn't so transparent. but how many people have the time to sit there and experiment and play w/ it? just tell me what to do and i'll do it.

i posted in a public forum whose main purpose is to disseminate information. so go disseminate away w/ my blessings.

i suggest that you provide links to the feedback thread and the update log. i forget what the actual name is but somebody posted in the feedback thread where it is tucked away in the site suggestions forum.

OT- i hate when google chrome cannot find google.com!
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bailey327
11-11-2011 at 12:15 PM.
11-11-2011 at 12:15 PM.
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sure, go ahead. one of the major purposes of the latest update is more transparency. unfortunately it didn't come w/ a user manual so it's taken group effort and way more time than necessary to work out exactly how everything's working now and tweak it, so that part wasn't so transparent. but how many people have the time to sit there and experiment and play w/ it? just tell me what to do and i'll do it.

i posted in a public forum whose main purpose is to disseminate information. so go disseminate away w/ my blessings.

i suggest that you provide links to the feedback thread and the update log. i forget what the actual name is but somebody posted in the feedback thread where it is tucked away in the site suggestions forum.

OT- i hate when google chrome cannot find google.com!
Thanks, ST. Another question. Did I see that I need to remove all my friends as well? Is that something that everyone can see therefore I need to remove them from my list to protect them? Just checking!!

I'm not sure how to handle repping like in the printables thread now. I run out daily of reps trying to rep people for contributing. So some people won't get repped. Usually, it's just a matter of the order I saw the posts in when I was updating. But I also make sure to rep my other wikibees as they do so much there. Now I don't know how I feel about repping if my repping is visible to others ... if the person I rep doesn't have it private, right? Somebuddy's gonna be mad that I'm not repping them enough, you know?


Oh, and thanks again for helping me catch up on this. Damn that thread is LONG on the changes! Smilie
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11-11-2011 at 12:48 PM.
11-11-2011 at 12:48 PM.
Quote from bailey327 View quoted comment :
Thanks, ST. Another question. Did I see that I need to remove all my friends as well? Is that something that everyone can see therefore I need to remove them from my list to protect them? Just checking!!

I'm not sure how to handle repping like in the printables thread now. I run out daily of reps trying to rep people for contributing. So some people won't get repped. Usually, it's just a matter of the order I saw the posts in when I was updating. But I also make sure to rep my other wikibees as they do so much there. Now I don't know how I feel about repping if my repping is visible to others ... if the person I rep doesn't have it private, right? Somebuddy's gonna be mad that I'm not repping them enough, you know?


Oh, and thanks again for helping me catch up on this. Damn that thread is LONG on the changes! Smilie
a few days ago friends was public so now i have no friends. now it says by default so maybe you can make it private? they didn't write a user manual and i don't have time to go search for a toggle. they did say the friend feature wasn't very functional so i think that will eventually be going bye-bye unless you can make a case for it in the feedback thread. but it's already been tried.

By Default, The following CAN be seen by others:
-Your public posts/threads
-Your public quotes
-Your public votes
-Giving Reputation Points (comments are not shown in the stream)
-Receiving Reputation Points (comments are not shown in the stream)
-Your Friends
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3493351 - first post

here's the short version of the thread so far but it's one sided, the user side (not comprehensive). and yeah, i did say reading that thread was infringing on my deal time but the powers that be did not think so. so i gave holly the cliff notes to her question.
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3532540

as for reps, i think reps are going bye-bye somehow or being radically altered. having reps and another incentive and reward method is redundant but who knows? having the reps now transparent makes the whole rep process silly, you can just thank them in a post b/c everybody can see it anyway. i never understood people posting their reps in hot deals. i think that's a newbie thing to do.

personally i would just put in my siggie that i don't want people knowing who i rep so i'm not repping anybody anymore. so i thank everyone for their contributions, just not personally.

here's the backstory on reps so you don't have to go hunting thru that mighty thread. sorry i made it ugly. it was my first experiment to not be streamed-

[QUOTE=slowtech;44548160]it's ok holly, you are not the only one to not read all the posts in this thread. it's a lot of extra reading in addition to trying to follow all the deals which are ramping up for xmas. as you can see, chewspam, doesn't read everything either.

here's the info about what's going on w/ midnight and reps and the direction sd is going in.

if you like midnite they will let you do your own support to keep it.

hth!
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[QUOTE=chewspam;44367394]I didn't read through the whole thread, but having the midnight skin setting makes the UCP and all that stuff unreadable.

Also, there's not a button to destroy any football post by ALVS and Nagin. Nono2
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[QUOTE=bryantq;44434794]We're taking all the feedback into consideration, don't worry. We'll work on adding a recent visitors list to the profile page, I think that is a bug.

The color scheme that these other people are talking about is midnight, which is not the same as what you're talking about. Regardless, we're still working on some changes. Internally, and now officially, we've deprecated support for midnight because of its low usage. So midnight takes a backseat to everything. I think we have a few people willing to step up to the plate to maintain it on their own so it might live on, just without our official support.

*snip*

Now going on to a more ideological subject:

There is a small shift in fundamental principals of how we want to see the website used. As it is, reputation was designed for people to recognize people for making a useful post or thread that helps further the deal community. It should be that, when you rep someone, you truly, genuinely like the post or thread. If this is so, it should be worth sharing with others who share your interests, so they can look at your profile and also see what was "good" on slickdeals.
This applies similarly to voting. It is the unique social part of our website where everyone helps each other to find good deals or interesting posts.

Instead, the reputation system is being used as a second "private" message system, sometimes with irrelevant comments, harassing messages, jokes, or is just being abused in cliques of friends and sub communities. People are taking efforts to circumvent the reputation system and also will go out of their way to find posts that are "reppable" even if that actual post they rep on isn't something they like, and as a result, actually make the reputation worthless.

By making voting and reputation public, our intention was to promote that social activity and transparency.
Obviously, there are a few outspoken individuals here who are wholly against it and we've made a compromise by providing those privacy settings. However, we still want to shape the direction of our website so the default will likely remain open so that there is more transparency here on Slickdeals.

Additionally, Slickdeals will find a different way to incentivize and reward users for posting good content and doing helpful actions, rather than a frivolous insider-rep trading scheme. This will actually be worth something, rather than just a number. (Stay tuned for that).

It is by no means an attempt to irritate people, but we want to improve the experience and interaction here on Slickdeals, and we want people to share what they've found with others. We also want to improve the feature set and tools that are available to our users.

Some of you asked "why didnt you provide a new features guide or a tutorial". That was planned, however part of me wanted to test the natural usability of the new design. If people are able to see a new design and figure it out on their own without any help, then it means its a good design. If they have problems with it, then we have to refine it so there arent any problems, which is why we released it to see how you guys interact with it, and are making tweaks and changes as we go further.

We'll have a complete change/features guide for the new stuff here shortly once we've stopped making changes for this release. (It'd suck to write a guide, only to have to change 50% of it the day after release).
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[QUOTE=bryantq;44440320]The Albums, Group Memberships and Friends were all features added by vbulletin in the last update. After reviewing their usage (or, actually, their lackthereof), we've decided to deprecate those features and no longer display them. They will not be returning. We feel that it is better to keep the community discussion in the public forums rather than promote private groups. We also felt that we do not need to try to compete with online image hosts or albums, as that is not our forte.

The profile picture has also been removed, since it was only viewable in the profile, and it was confusing to have both Avatars and Profile Pictures. We felt that it was more appropriate to have just one image for the user. We're still considering the idea of increasing the maximum size of avatars as a result.

As far as midnight goes, I can understand it sucks, but its just a matter of resource utilization. At this point in time, it simply is not a priority above all the other issues and projects we're working on.

Like I said however, if we find someone who's willing to take over that task, we're willing to let them.


The privacy settings page that you found seems to have been developed by the vbulletin staff and relate to those deprecated features, but we'll see about getting a more useful and complete "privacy settings" page for all the profile features.
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Quote from HollyGolightly View quoted comment :
Well I admit - I am a reader, but didn't read through all the posts in this thread, so I was unaware that midnight was going away.. I thought a lot of people used it? I am now getting used to the midnight scheme, so that's a bummer.. Maybe my eyes are too sensitive but the block of white was brutal for me.

I agree about people saying thanks in their rep message and sometimes people write more so I like easy access - which was achieved with the old version.

But all in all, I think there are some nice features on this new addition. Really if we could just have other color schemes which aren't so bright, then it would be much better. Smilie
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11-11-2011 at 01:21 PM.
11-11-2011 at 01:21 PM.
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Wow. I've missed so much, and appreciate so much you giving the lowdown. I think I'm going to take your suggestion on the repping. I rep someone who's helpful, and they've now taken away my ability to quietly send a note of support to someone....now that it's obvious who I choose to rep. Again, thanks for catching up the slowpokes! (me)
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11-11-2011 at 02:41 PM.
11-11-2011 at 02:41 PM.
Hi everyone! wave
I was wondering if someone can pm Granniebell's addy? I would love to send her a card. She is an inspiration to all of us! heart
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11-11-2011 at 03:03 PM.
11-11-2011 at 03:03 PM.
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Morning Yawn. Still awake tn? You are off today and you are suppose to sleep in!!!
I know, I know... I'm so tired at night that I'm fast asleep as soon as the head hits the pillow, but then at 2:45 this morning I was awake. I need to stay up later (was in bed at 15 after 9 last night), but it's all I can do to stay up and watch the early weather.

When HDD posted this morning, I had already left for my recycle bin diving route. Took almost 4 hours and quite a bit of driving, but I have 6 inches of inserts to show for it. I bought two Ts out of Dunkin' Donuts Whole Bean coffee today for the SIL (I had sent the SIL all the Qs, so I had to dumpster dive to find some to buy with)... wasn't a terrible price considering the $1.50/2 and $5 GC wyb 3. SIL was upset that her closest target didn't have but 1 whole bean. I bought 6 in Decatur and 6 in Huntsville West. Tailgate nuts scanned regular price today (first time I've been in a target all week).

2nd oldest niece has a college BB game on tonight... Brother told me that there is a camera there taping, but damn if I can find that game online. I've always watched her play when I couldn't be there, so tonight's a first to not do that (the download option last year worked like a charm but the school changed who handles the webcast... appears that only their home games will be online). Boo..
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11-11-2011 at 09:52 PM.
11-11-2011 at 09:52 PM.
I was reading on WUC that Dollar General will have Libbys vegetables for 40 cents starting November 20. If so, it will be a nice deal with $1 off 4 coupons.

Also $25 prepaid Visa for test driving a KIA Optima HERE

That is about all I know right now....
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Nikayla
11-11-2011 at 10:32 PM.
11-11-2011 at 10:32 PM.
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happy birthday nikayla's DD!
Thanks! It's been a crazy night and they are all still wide awake! Watching movies and being crazy. I'm ready for sleep Sleepy2
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11-11-2011 at 10:34 PM.
11-11-2011 at 10:34 PM.
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Thanks! It's been a crazy night and they are all still wide awake! Watching movies and being crazy. I'm ready for sleep Sleepy2
me too! g'nite!
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11-11-2011 at 11:19 PM.
11-11-2011 at 11:19 PM.
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me too! g'nite!
Nighty, nite! The movie is over they are brushing teeth, whew, time to hit the showers and go to sleep. woot
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11-12-2011 at 06:23 AM.
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Whip get back on the wagon before you regret it... I am down 38 lbs woot
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Way to go, girl!!!
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