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Has anyone dealt with Staples rewards Theft??

205 28 July 17, 2010 at 12:02 PM in Question
Ok, so I have been turning in ink cartridges to staples for a while now, and have received rewards since February I believe, and I have never been able to use them except one. I usually waited til the last day before they expired and then they wouldnt work when using them online or in store they wouldnt work, so i just figured i missed my chance, and would try again next month (i know, not the smartest approach, but thats a different issue).

Anyway, since I kept having non-stop problems with my rewards, I just logged onto my account to check my status on rewards.. Well apparently, EVERY single one of my rewards was redeemed in New York by somebody buying external hard drives both times. One was in Staten Island and the other in Selden... The problem here is that I am from Indiana, and have never been to New York in my life.. Now I dont know if 'New York' shows up if you buy online, or if someone guessed my rewards account number, because I keep my computer clean and scan it constantly for everything, and have never posted any information anywhere.. I cant call the rewards people til Monday to figure this out.. Do you think they will credit me with any of these rewards, or am I screwed?

So has anyone else had this happen, or did i win the unlucky lottery again? lol

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Last Edited by tenderidol December 12, 2011 at 05:47 PM
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01-24-2012 at 03:54 PM.
01-24-2012 at 03:54 PM.
Just joined Staples rewards in Nov, and my first $20 in ink posted on my Dec. Statement.

On 1/6/12 someone (other than myself of course) in South Plainfield,NJ redeemed my Dec statement check. I live in the midwest. I never gave out any coupons or divulged my rewards number to anyone. I had barely set up the account.

A couple questions:

1) What's the best method about trying to get staples to manually re-issue these rewards? I assume it's one of these phone numbers listed in the wiki, but I'm not premier. Should I call the office of the president (800) 338-0252? or the premier number (888) 891-3787?

2) My jan. statement just posted a few days ago with another $20. Is the best method of protecting this reward check buying a small item in-store, then holding on to the "leftover reward check". Are those safe, or have people had those generated/stolen/hacked as well? Confused

3) I'm going to hit premier here sometime during Feb. (just finished $1k spend yesterday). I imagine when I call staples they will want to issue me a new account #, but from what I've read, that is probably no more secure from theft? I know they will transfer my premier status for 2012 to the new account, but what about for 2013? Anybody with experience on this from the last year into this?

Thanks. I'm really worried about the rather large Feb. rewards statement coming my way. Don't want to have to spend it all the minute I get it, but I guess that would be preferable to it being stolen. This has probably been said, but what happens if you do a return with items you paid for with staples rewards? Can they transfer the rewards over as credit as long as the rewards wouldn't have expired yet? This is all very complicated and somewhat comically sad LMAORoll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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01-24-2012 at 06:20 PM.
01-24-2012 at 06:20 PM.
Just had another one stolen.
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01-25-2012 at 06:49 AM.
01-25-2012 at 06:49 AM.
Quote from dimjim :
Just joined Staples rewards in Nov, and my first $20 in ink posted on my Dec. Statement.

On 1/6/12 someone (other than myself of course) in South Plainfield,NJ redeemed my Dec statement check. I live in the midwest. I never gave out any coupons or divulged my rewards number to anyone. I had barely set up the account.

A couple questions:

1) What's the best method about trying to get staples to manually re-issue these rewards? I assume it's one of these phone numbers listed in the wiki, but I'm not premier. Should I call the office of the president (800) 338-0252? or the premier number (888) 891-3787?

2) My jan. statement just posted a few days ago with another $20. Is the best method of protecting this reward check buying a small item in-store, then holding on to the "leftover reward check". Are those safe, or have people had those generated/stolen/hacked as well? Confused

3) I'm going to hit premier here sometime during Feb. (just finished $1k spend yesterday). I imagine when I call staples they will want to issue me a new account #, but from what I've read, that is probably no more secure from theft? I know they will transfer my premier status for 2012 to the new account, but what about for 2013? Anybody with experience on this from the last year into this?

Thanks. I'm really worried about the rather large Feb. rewards statement coming my way. Don't want to have to spend it all the minute I get it, but I guess that would be preferable to it being stolen. This has probably been said, but what happens if you do a return with items you paid for with staples rewards? Can they transfer the rewards over as credit as long as the rewards wouldn't have expired yet? This is all very complicated and somewhat comically sad LMAORoll Eyes (Sarcastic)
1) Call Staples Rewards Member Services at 1-800-793-3320.

2) Yes, buy a photocopy at 10 cts or something else you want and save the balance coupon, which, as far as I can tell, is to date safe. If you were to return anything bought with unexpired rewards, you get back another coupon, which like the balance coupon, must then be used in one go.

3) No account is safe these days. One just has to be proactive in monitoring one's personal account regularly. From what I have read here, when you are issued a new account, you get Premier status for the current year and the next. I do not know if all your present transactions will necessarily get transferred though. You may need to specifically ask about that as well as your February rewards which may not be issued if your existing rewards account is closed. Some people have also mentioned a courtesy coupon being issued in recognition of the hassle for the customer.

At the end of the day, new account or not, all rewards appear to be highly susceptible to theft. The best way is to use them as soon as you get them or at the very least, buy something small to protect the bulk of the amount.
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01-25-2012 at 10:03 AM.
01-25-2012 at 10:03 AM.
Quote from vaultaddict :
Just had another one stolen.
Sorry to hear. I'm sure Staples is looking into this!
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01-25-2012 at 11:56 AM.
01-25-2012 at 11:56 AM.
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Sorry to hear. I'm sure Staples is looking into this!

that's ok, they usually give me a bit extra for the trouble
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01-25-2012 at 01:18 PM.
01-25-2012 at 01:18 PM.
Quote from vaultaddict :
that's ok, they usually give me a bit extra for the trouble
Such a shame though that theft of rewards is happening at this rate with absolutely no action from Staples that we can tell.
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01-25-2012 at 01:26 PM.
01-25-2012 at 01:26 PM.
Quote from Cagnotte :

3) No account is safe these days. One just has to be proactive in monitoring one's personal account regularly. From what I have read here, when you are issued a new account, you get Premier status for the current year and the next. I do not know if all your present transactions will necessarily get transferred though. You may need to specifically ask about that as well as your February rewards which may not be issued if your existing rewards account is closed. Some people have also mentioned a courtesy coupon being issued in recognition of the hassle for the customer.

At the end of the day, new account or not, all rewards appear to be highly susceptible to theft. The best way is to use them as soon as you get them or at the very least, buy something small to protect the bulk of the amount.
I believe I was the one who reported getting a "complimentary" Premier for the following year, since they were not able to transfer purchases from the old account to the new one. Well, despite the fact that I confirmed this with 3 different CSRs, my wife's account reverted back to regular mid-January. When I called them about it, they looked at the old account and the new one and told me that the total spending was less than $1K. Then, I told them what I was told about them being so "courteous", etc. She checked with her supervisor and upgraded the account to Premier manually.

If anyone's account is compromised and a new one is opened, it's now the member's job to keep an eye on the spending under the new account and get a total from them via phone combining both accounts to ensure $1K+ spending.

The second thing to keep in mind is the online orders. None of her online orders showed up in the new account (even though the new Rewards number was used for each order), and when I called them they linked the old and the new accounts together (now, there's an "additional user" listed under account profile with the old rewards number next to it).

What a pain in the neck this is turning into...
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01-25-2012 at 03:03 PM.
01-25-2012 at 03:03 PM.
Quote from tenderidol :
I believe I was the one who reported getting a "complimentary" Premier for the following year, since they were not able to transfer purchases from the old account to the new one. Well, despite the fact that I confirmed this with 3 different CSRs, my wife's account reverted back to regular mid-January. When I called them about it, they looked at the old account and the new one and told me that the total spending was less than $1K. Then, I told them what I was told about them being so "courteous", etc. She checked with her supervisor and upgraded the account to Premier manually.

If anyone's account is compromised and a new one is opened, it's now the member's job to keep an eye on the spending under the new account and get a total from them via phone combining both accounts to ensure $1K+ spending.

The second thing to keep in mind is the online orders. None of her online orders showed up in the new account (even though the new Rewards number was used for each order), and when I called them they linked the old and the new accounts together (now, there's an "additional user" listed under account profile with the old rewards number next to it).

What a pain in the neck this is turning into...
This begs the question of what the linking you talked about actually does? Is it just for making online purchases appear in the new account going forward? Why should the Staples.com account still be using the old rewards #, even after the latter has been replaced in account settings?

Further, if the linking is actually done at the time the theft is reported, would the old transaction history be imported into the new account? I am guessing that for most people, all that is done at the moment is closing the old account and opening a new one, without any linking taking place at that time.

Just a few thoughts...Smilie
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02-02-2012 at 05:22 PM.
02-02-2012 at 05:22 PM.
Quote from dimjim :
My jan. statement just posted a few days ago with another $20. Is the best method of protecting this reward check buying a small item in-store, then holding on to the "leftover reward check". Are those safe, or have people had those generated/stolen/hacked as well? Confused
It is the best way but it takes extra time of going to the store. Once the first gets stolen, the second is almost guaranteed to be stolen as well, because they know that you recycle. Rewards is 5 digits (changes every month, but the same for regular account and another 5 digits that are the same for Premier), followed by your rewards number, followed by a check digit [wikipedia.org].

I was thinking, how in the world can their system hit Staples so many times, checking Staples' system for coupons that work? There are two ways: (1) being logged in, you can check without entering a CAPTCHA [wikipedia.org] and (2) ....

Quote from Cagnotte :
Such a shame though that theft of rewards is happening at this rate with absolutely no action from Staples that we can tell.
It is unsustainable. Upgrading a system is costly but they have to figure out a way to stop the fraud. If they require the name on the rewards to match the rewards number, then it will stop. For example, when someone uses rewards (online/phone/in-store) the name should automatically show up on the system when processing the order, and if the billing/shipping does not match (online/phone) or the printout has wrong name (in-store) then the transaction is canceled. It is as simple as that.
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02-02-2012 at 07:39 PM.
02-02-2012 at 07:39 PM.
Holy shit, I had not idea that it's such a pain in the ass for people to get their rewards back. I gotta confess that I bought a couple in 2011, but never knew that they were stolen until now. I am not going to do this anymore, seeing how much shit you all are going through and since, I am about to start recycling myself. I started getting suspicious about the rewards that I was purchasing after the name kept constantly changing and addresses too. I happen to be from NY as well Frown

Hopefully, haha, I will not get my rewards stolen. Then, again, I guess I would have to pay the price for unknowingly facilitating this cycle. Sorry all.
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02-02-2012 at 08:07 PM.
02-02-2012 at 08:07 PM.
My question is do they only steal INK checks, or do they steal other rewards checks too (like for the 25% back, 100% FARewards, etc check)?
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02-02-2012 at 08:12 PM.
02-02-2012 at 08:12 PM.
Quote from Wnsirlord :
My question is do they only steal INK checks, or do they steal other rewards checks too (like for the 25% back, 100% FARewards, etc check)?
IIRC, only the ink as they are of a fixed dollar amount. $20, $40, or more depending on promos.
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02-02-2012 at 08:16 PM.
02-02-2012 at 08:16 PM.
Quote from mathfaster :
IIRC, only the ink as they are of a fixed dollar amount. $20, $40, or more depending on promos.
Thanks! That's what I figured
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02-14-2012 at 10:54 PM.
02-14-2012 at 10:54 PM.
Feb. Ink checks are issued, FYI. Jump on yours before someone else does!
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02-18-2012 at 06:35 PM.
02-18-2012 at 06:35 PM.
I wish I had come across this thread sooner. Anyway, I have a suspicious event in my reward transaction history. Most of them, if used have a order number with it. This one was $40 ink reward of Sep,2011, and it was used online on Oct 17, 2011 with NO order number. Of course I have check the order history of that day, Negative. So what you guys think, a stolen story? I want to make sure before I reach out to Staples. And it was indeed stolen, What 's odds that I can work it out with Staples after 5 month? Thanks!
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