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Landers is considering a move towards the military, what do you think?

18,933 670 August 3, 2010 at 09:40 PM in Question
I'm looking at career path options and one is military, specifically Navy (Jokes allowed, go ahead Marines...). What do you guys think?

Thoughts on the military?

Thoughts on people you know joining the military?

Experiences you've seen in being with the military?


Nothing serious yet, just something in my mind still right now and trying to see/figure out what I want to do and how I want to do it.

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08-04-2010 at 08:23 AM.
08-04-2010 at 08:23 AM.
According to my son...

N= never
A= again
V= volunteer
Y= yourself


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08-04-2010 at 08:36 AM.
08-04-2010 at 08:36 AM.
wasn't SOB in the navy? Scratchchin he hasn't been around much but it might be worth a PM...
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08-04-2010 at 08:37 AM.
08-04-2010 at 08:37 AM.
Quote from Fallacy :
You don't have a college degree?
Shocking isn't it? laugh out loud

Nope, I don't. I could if I had actually stuck in school. Definitely something I regret.

Quote from UTR :
Rumor has it, he quit school to work for apple.
Is that the current rumor? Scratchchin

I left school because I didn't actually study or do anything that I should have been doing and started working. Guess I just wasn't interested in college at that point (Short version: I was an idiot)

Quote from Mugen910 :
I love the Navy...they took us where ever we wanted to go and waited around Big Grin

The Marines are still a dept of the Navy...the Men's Dept!

all jokes a side...find a career path you'd like in the military first...then weigh the option of what you can do with that job after the military just in case you don't become a lifer.
Thanks!

Quote from Mugen910 :
True
True
True
Very True
A big lie...very few even get near a plane or fly one.


Also Landers if you are close to a degree or have one...go Officer..you'll thank me later with rep pts. Smilie


PM me if you got questions.
Thanks again, I just might.
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Fallacy
08-04-2010 at 08:42 AM.
08-04-2010 at 08:42 AM.
Quote from Landers :
Shocking isn't it? laugh out loud

Nope, I don't. I could if I had actually stuck in school. Definitely something I regret.
Well you do brag about your high paying job often laugh out loud I just assumed you had a degree.
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Landers
08-04-2010 at 08:56 AM.
08-04-2010 at 08:56 AM.
Quote from Fallacy :
Well you do brag about your high paying job often laugh out loud I just assumed you had a degree.
Brag about it being high paying? Roll
I just like working for this company. If it was high paying, I probably wouldn't be considering joining up for college benefits. lol

It gets me by. I got a place to live, a car, a social life, and I can play hockey. I still live paycheck to paycheck though.
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Fallacy
08-04-2010 at 09:01 AM.
08-04-2010 at 09:01 AM.
Quote from Landers :
Brag about it being high paying? Roll
I just like working for this company. If it was high paying, I probably wouldn't be considering joining up for college benefits. lol

It gets me by. I got a place to live, a car, a social life, and I can play hockey. I still live paycheck to paycheck though.
Dontknow I guess yeah, you only talk about how much you're an apple fan.

OTOH I know people who have a degree and can't even live paycheck to paycheck in this economy laugh out loud
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08-04-2010 at 09:08 AM.
08-04-2010 at 09:08 AM.
Quote from Fallacy :
Dontknow I guess yeah, you only talk about how much you're an apple fan.

OTOH I know people who have a degree and can't even live paycheck to paycheck in this economy laugh out loud
I hear ya. Part of the reason that Texas is working out for me right now. Good economy and lifestyle at this point in life. We'll see what happens over the next year though.
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08-04-2010 at 09:10 AM.
08-04-2010 at 09:10 AM.
Fly Navy !!
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08-04-2010 at 09:12 AM.
08-04-2010 at 09:12 AM.
Quote from Landers :
Brag about it being high paying? Roll
I just like working for this company. If it was high paying, I probably wouldn't be considering joining up for college benefits. lol

It gets me by. I got a place to live, a car, a social life, and I can play hockey. I still live paycheck to paycheck though.
The military won't change this...If anything you'll be learning to live on less.
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08-04-2010 at 09:23 AM.
08-04-2010 at 09:23 AM.
Go for it! woot

I served in the Army and am very proud of my service, and walk away from it a better person.

One thing to keep in mind when you enlist is payment for college. When I joined, there was the GI Bill (basic to all branches, not much money) plus the Army College Fund (even more money for college). Make sure you get the Navy College Fund (?? if there is such a thing??) and check with others to see if there are any other benefits you should be negotiating when you join. nod
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08-04-2010 at 09:37 AM.
08-04-2010 at 09:37 AM.
Quote from Mugen910 :
The military won't change this...If anything you'll be learning to live on less.
You're right. It won't, but it will help me to get a college degree to go with a career of my choice.
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08-04-2010 at 09:59 AM.
08-04-2010 at 09:59 AM.
I know three men who were in the Navy.

1) Joined the Navy right out of high school for 7 years. Worked on a nuclear sub and traveled all over the world mainly stationed out of Hawaii. Joined because he was promised boatloads of money for college. Started engineering school at 25 (the same year I started). Didn't have nearly enough money for school. Later said he wished he had just started school right from high school and took out student loans. He would have started his "real job" sooner and would have been able to pay off his loans quicker. He still had to borrow a sizable amount to get his BS.

2) Joined the navy for 5 years right out of high school once again with the promise of huge money for college. Never really got staioned anywhere cool. Wreaked havoc on his first marriage, ending in divorce at or about the time his commitment was ending. Went to a state university and once again did not have enough money. Still had to take out huge student loans. Also says he would have been much better off just taking out loans from the start and getting into his real job sooner (he makes more than $150k in pharmacuetical sales). Has a huge chip on his shoulder in regards to ralationships and is now older than 40 and still cannot trust women due to his first marriage problems while enlisted.

3) Career Navy. Airline mechanic. Was told he would always have a job due to specialized skill set. Staioned in CA, MO and then MI. The moving killed his first marriage and severely strained his relationship with his children by his first marriage. The kids are nearly 40 and they still have family problems. Second marriage working okay but there are ongoing strains of "control issues" and military behavior he jusr can't shake off. Took a full military retirement (10 years ago) and was unable to find a job in the private sector. Even though he said he was willing to relocate anywhere in the US no one wanted an 45 yr old aircraft mechanic with more than 25 yrs experience. Works for the local department of public works.

Are we seeing a theme?
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08-04-2010 at 10:05 AM.
08-04-2010 at 10:05 AM.
I'm guessing that you're looking for a military position where you won't see combat, thus the Navy? I've heard mixed things about the Navy, more positive things about the Air Force.
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08-04-2010 at 10:14 AM.
08-04-2010 at 10:14 AM.
If we're going to talk Air Force:

1) One who joined right out of high school. Again with the promise of huge money for college. Became an aircraft mechanic. Gor out after his 5 years was up. Couldn't get a private sector aircraft mechanic job anywhere in the US (lets not forget that Detroit is a major airline hub no less). Moved back home. Didn't have nearly as much money as he was told he would have, barely was able to afford 1.5 years of community college and living expenses such as food (moved back home).Now he's a big loser who makes 25K. First marriage didn't work out and from persoanl experience this guy is impossible to live with (some things have to be military perfection-ie t-shirt folding; but the rest of his house is a sty). The Air Force recruiter promised him he's be able to find a private sector job in order to earn the additional money he'd need to pay for college. He has it in writing even.
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08-04-2010 at 10:48 AM.
08-04-2010 at 10:48 AM.
Quote from redjen910 :
I know three men who were in the Navy.

1) Joined the Navy right out of high school for 7 years. Worked on a nuclear sub and traveled all over the world mainly stationed out of Hawaii. Joined because he was promised boatloads of money for college. Started engineering school at 25 (the same year I started). Didn't have nearly enough money for school. Later said he wished he had just started school right from high school and took out student loans. He would have started his "real job" sooner and would have been able to pay off his loans quicker. He still had to borrow a sizable amount to get his BS.

2) Joined the navy for 5 years right out of high school once again with the promise of huge money for college. Never really got staioned anywhere cool. Wreaked havoc on his first marriage, ending in divorce at or about the time his commitment was ending. Went to a state university and once again did not have enough money. Still had to take out huge student loans. Also says he would have been much better off just taking out loans from the start and getting into his real job sooner (he makes more than $150k in pharmacuetical sales). Has a huge chip on his shoulder in regards to ralationships and is now older than 40 and still cannot trust women due to his first marriage problems while enlisted.

3) Career Navy. Airline mechanic. Was told he would always have a job due to specialized skill set. Staioned in CA, MO and then MI. The moving killed his first marriage and severely strained his relationship with his children by his first marriage. The kids are nearly 40 and they still have family problems. Second marriage working okay but there are ongoing strains of "control issues" and military behavior he jusr can't shake off. Took a full military retirement (10 years ago) and was unable to find a job in the private sector. Even though he said he was willing to relocate anywhere in the US no one wanted an 45 yr old aircraft mechanic with more than 25 yrs experience. Works for the local department of public works.

Are we seeing a theme?
Quote from redjen910 :
If we're going to talk Air Force:

1) One who joined right out of high school. Again with the promise of huge money for college. Became an aircraft mechanic. Gor out after his 5 years was up. Couldn't get a private sector aircraft mechanic job anywhere in the US (lets not forget that Detroit is a major airline hub no less). Moved back home. Didn't have nearly as much money as he was told he would have, barely was able to afford 1.5 years of community college and living expenses such as food (moved back home).Now he's a big loser who makes 25K. First marriage didn't work out and from persoanl experience this guy is impossible to live with (some things have to be military perfection-ie t-shirt folding; but the rest of his house is a sty). The Air Force recruiter promised him he's be able to find a private sector job in order to earn the additional money he'd need to pay for college. He has it in writing even.
You hang out with losers? Dontknow
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