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dzap
07-30-2010 at 10:59 PM.
07-30-2010 at 10:59 PM.
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yes, i'm 90% sure i will get a kindle 3...i like the iPad, but think they left out alot of features, and i await version 2.0...so, yes, I will eventually have both...
I said I would only get a new iPod Touch (next iDevice for me!) when Apple but a damn camera on it.

I'm hoping the 4G will have it. Pissed me off to hell when I saw leaks upon leaks upon leaks of an iPod Touch with a camera..and then only found that the 3G doesn't Blowup

Not that I would use it that often..but it's the principal, that when I upgrade my devices..it must be a significant upgrade..not some useless shit like memory or a processor (aka..internals..not externals.).
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PaintTheSkyGrey
07-30-2010 at 11:00 PM.
07-30-2010 at 11:00 PM.
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yeah, but seriously, you trust b&n for elecs?
Their customer support has been outstanding. I haven't had any issues with it other than a cracked bezel, and they replaced the entire nook for free. If it works, it works.
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arjunsr
07-30-2010 at 11:01 PM.
07-30-2010 at 11:01 PM.
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I understand where you're coming from. Ever since my iPod Touch died..I've had the issue of having my Logitech dock being pretty much dumb now since I couldn't wake up to music! (iPod dock)
Mad

But then I got one of these suckers Stick Out Tongue
http://www.amazon.com/Ibizia-iFIP...B00160QWU0
...it was $12 at Target laugh out loud IT ROCKS. Now all my music and stuff is streamed to my dock and any other iPod connector via bluetooth.

So now..every iPod accessory is now compatible with my bluetooth phone Bleh
heh. that helps. still doesn't replace the idiotic companies that decide ooh iphone. got to design for that :-/
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dzap
07-30-2010 at 11:02 PM.
07-30-2010 at 11:02 PM.
Quote from arjunsr :
yeah, but seriously, you trust b&n for elecs?
laugh out loud Running out of arguments Roll From the reports I've been reading..B&N has been excellent with support and swapping out units quickly for any issues. Sounds like amazon's level of CS. Besides some bezel issues..I heard the build quality was rather good nod
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arjunsr
07-30-2010 at 11:03 PM.
07-30-2010 at 11:03 PM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
Their customer support has been outstanding. I haven't had any issues with it other than a cracked bezel, and they replaced the entire nook for free. If it works, it works.
for me its the same as google. google has great cs, great philosophy. they still released the nexus one and dropped sales/pretty much support a few months in.

blockbuster tried to compete with netflix with dvd's by mail and later streaming. they still had to claim bankruptcy, close many retail shops and don't have a solid future.

Quote from dzap :
laugh out loud Running out of arguments Roll From the reports I've been reading..B&N has been excellent with support and swapping out units quickly for any issues. Sounds like amazon's level of CS. Besides some bezel issues..I heard the build quality was rather good nod
see latest reply Stick Out Tongue
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dzap
07-30-2010 at 11:15 PM.
07-30-2010 at 11:15 PM.
Quote from arjunsr :
for me its the same as google. google has great cs, great philosophy. they still released the nexus one and dropped sales/pretty much support a few months in.

blockbuster tried to compete with netflix with dvd's by mail and later streaming. they still had to claim bankruptcy, close many retail shops and don't have a solid future.
Google has been known to be a software type company..not so much hardware. The Nexus One is still a great piece of technology and outperforms the Droid X and Evo in many areas still.

The problem was they didn't market it. No one knew about it pretty much, and it wasn't direct through T-Mobile..you could only buy it from Google..nowhere else.

That might have worked in Europe..but in America, people generally are tied to cheap phone prices, and don't understand how the concept of a "subsidy" works. They will pay the $70/month as long as their phone is $199.

As for Blockbuster...yeah...they're pretty much screwed. It's how technology works and they didn't push hard enough, fast enough and let the likes of NetFlix and RedBox surpass them. Look Blockbuster..I don't need 7 days to watch a movie for $8. I need to watch it only once for like $1 or $2. Redbox understood that..and NetFlix understood that as well with $9 for a whole month and access to thousands of movies instantly..WTF would I rent from BB?

but anyway..back to the Kindle and Nook. The only company I think struggling with the ebook race is Borders. They've been trying hard with the kobo and some other brands but they just SUCK.

Amazon has been in the book business since the beginning..that's the only thing they sold from the very beginning. They're not going anywhere.

Barnes & Noble has the backup of idiots. I told a friend of mine who wanted a book that he could get the same book from Borders for 30% less with my Borders coupon. He bought it at B&N anyway rather than save the $9-$10.

I don't know what it is about B&N I guess. But I see people sitting around in the store just reading..so it's just the "environment" I suppose. They're also not going anywhere. They built a premium brand and they stick by it. Just like Apple. They also own big brands like SparkNotes..so that definitely helps.

They've done well and have advertised it enough to where it was sold out for a while (months) for the holidays. B&N is here to stay in the ebook market. That's where BB failed..they didn't hop on fast enough..and why Borders is struggling.
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dzap
07-30-2010 at 11:19 PM.
07-30-2010 at 11:19 PM.
Anyway..I'm going to bed laugh out loud Nite everyone!! Whee
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arjunsr
07-30-2010 at 11:29 PM.
07-30-2010 at 11:29 PM.
Quote from dzap :
Google has been known to be a software type company..not so much hardware. The Nexus One is still a great piece of technology and outperforms the Droid X and Evo in many areas still.

The problem was they didn't market it. No one knew about it pretty much, and it wasn't direct through T-Mobile..you could only buy it from Google..nowhere else.

That might have worked in Europe..but in America, people generally are tied to cheap phone prices, and don't understand how the concept of a "subsidy" works. They will pay the $70/month as long as their phone is $199.

As for Blockbuster...yeah...they're pretty much screwed. It's how technology works and they didn't push hard enough, fast enough and let the likes of NetFlix and RedBox surpass them. Look Blockbuster..I don't need 7 days to watch a movie for $8. I need to watch it only once for like $1 or $2. Redbox understood that..and NetFlix understood that as well with $9 for a whole month and access to thousands of movies instantly..WTF would I rent from BB?

but anyway..back to the Kindle and Nook. The only company I think struggling with the ebook race is Borders. They've been trying hard with the kobo and some other brands but they just SUCK.

Amazon has been in the book business since the beginning..that's the only thing they sold from the very beginning. They're not going anywhere.

Barnes & Noble has the backup of idiots. I told a friend of mine who wanted a book that he could get the same book from Borders for 30% less with my Borders coupon. He bought it at B&N anyway rather than save the $9-$10.

I don't know what it is about B&N I guess. But I see people sitting around in the store just reading..so it's just the "environment" I suppose. They're also not going anywhere. They built a premium brand and they stick by it. Just like Apple. They also own big brands like SparkNotes..so that definitely helps.

They've done well and have advertised it enough to where it was sold out for a while (months) for the holidays. B&N is here to stay in the ebook market. That's where BB failed..they didn't hop on fast enough..and why Borders is struggling.
i really don't think advertising was an issue. lots of other phones/devices have been marketed a lot more than the iphone.

acceptance is what really drives how much a company pushes it. amazon is the leading online general merchant. look at the itunes store. they agreed early on, that they won't make money on selling songs for 99 cents. they figured they'd make it up on ipods. does the nook have that advantage? is it that much better than the kindle? kindle at least has amazon's muscle to get a lot of hardcovers for 9.99. now compare that against a multipurpose device like the ipad that many other things support.

if your eyes really can't handle reading the ipad/iphone screen, no argument from me. i think that's a lot over played and you'd be better off with a backlight screen .
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07-31-2010 at 12:34 AM.
07-31-2010 at 12:34 AM.
hide ya kids, hide ya wife and hide ya husband cause dey rapin everybody in here
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nessykins
07-31-2010 at 06:17 AM.
07-31-2010 at 06:17 AM.
Going to the lake wheeeeee Whee
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Princess Crunch
07-31-2010 at 06:47 AM.
07-31-2010 at 06:47 AM.
Dear lawd what all did I miss? Faint
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fredandbetty
07-31-2010 at 06:49 AM.
07-31-2010 at 06:49 AM.
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Dear lawd what all did I miss? Faint
laugh out loud
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cupcake42
07-31-2010 at 07:04 AM.
07-31-2010 at 07:04 AM.
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Going to the lake wheeeeee Whee
Have fun!

My DH went to the lake for 4 days with out meFrown I'm I the only one who has to go to work! Crying
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mrlaugh
07-31-2010 at 07:36 AM.
07-31-2010 at 07:36 AM.
why, why, do I have the room where next door someone has loud sex just after I try to go to sleep and just after I wake up but am trying to get back to sleep? it wasn't even 8:45am Mad
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Princess Crunch
07-31-2010 at 07:45 AM.
07-31-2010 at 07:45 AM.
LMAO
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