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The *official* iPhone 4S thread ... *officially* announced today!!! (*official* iPhone5 thread pending)

24,862 1,948 July 27, 2011 at 01:59 PM in Tech & Electronics (2)
Apparently 1 in 3 Americans want a device that hasn't been announced yet. I don't recall that poll, but I'm willing to perform due diligence and start one in the Lounge.

Do you want one?



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Do you plan on buying the next iPhone (4S/4GS/5/etc) within the next year?
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07-28-2011 at 05:07 AM.
07-28-2011 at 05:07 AM.
Day #9 of no cell phone ... the shivers and cold sweats have stopped. Wonder if the draw of new shiny toy that'll set me back $2k over two years will have that much pull on me come September.
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07-28-2011 at 05:49 AM.
07-28-2011 at 05:49 AM.
I am kind of torn on this...

All the numbers that are released about Apples are sooooo tough to actually compare. Hardly anyone that actually WANTS an Apple will try anything else because of the status of the device.

On the flip side though, anyone that actually says they would choose a free Android over a free iPhone is just kidding themselves...3/4 of all Androids are packed with bloatware and buggy as all hell. Yes, there are some manufactures that have got that OS right...but it is your gamble to try to find which one...plus once you do, good luck sifting through all those crap for apps they have.

I really wish people would start to actually seriously look at Windows Phone 7. The fact that they are actually making improvements to the OS is refreshing (looking at you, Mr. Outdated, one new feature in the last 3 years iOS)... Especially with the fact that most of the people out there with smartphones (especially if you exclude businessmen) are using it solely to look at maps, find a place to eat and screw around on Facebook...ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL of which are features that you don't need an app to do on WP7 making it WAY faster to actually find what you want and get back to having fun doing it.
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07-28-2011 at 05:57 AM.
07-28-2011 at 05:57 AM.
I have both an android phone and an iPhone 4. iPhones seem to be great for the person who is not that tech savvy and does not mind the typical Apple interface use. Android is a lot more user friendly when you know what you are doing and offers many more option in my opinion. Because of that, I am waiting for the Droid Bionic and could care less about the iPhone 5.
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Curtieson
07-28-2011 at 05:57 AM.
07-28-2011 at 05:57 AM.
Per HuffPost:

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07-28-2011 at 06:06 AM.
07-28-2011 at 06:06 AM.
Quote from Curtieson :
All the numbers that are released about Apples are sooooo tough to actually compare. Hardly anyone that actually WANTS an Apple will try anything else because of the status of the device.
Don't be a hater. Apple has tremendous brand loyalty because their devices fit a need and Apple has gone to great lengths to avoid over-complicating things. The VAST majority of people that have owned Apple products return because the product meets and exceeds their expectations. Simplicity and quick access to information rocks.

I have friends with more powerful Droids who pounded their chest and threw stats like "more megapixels in my camera!" yet my iPhone4 took better pictures (in personal, side-by-side comparison tests). Let's not get into the extra crap they put on Droids or how buggy the software can be.

The iPhone is certainly not "state of the art" anymore - but from a usability perspective, it sets the bar higher than those other devices.

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On the flip side though, anyone that actually says they would choose a free Android over a free iPhone is just kidding themselves...3/4 of all Androids are packed with bloatware and buggy as all hell.
Remind me to read the entire post before replying Rofl2

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I really wish people would start to actually seriously look at Windows Phone 7.
I think the public has grown tired of continued promises from Microsoft on this platform, I know I have. Until a large segment of the user community shifts, I certainly won't give this another passing thought Nono2 (and I'm a Microsoft bigot with work experience there)

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The fact that they are actually making improvements to the OS is refreshing (looking at you, Mr. Outdated, one new feature in the last 3 years iOS)... Especially with the fact that most of the people out there with smartphones (especially if you exclude businessmen)
... but I am a businessman and I get tremendous value from the iPhone. Course if it could work correctly with SharePoint (ActiveX?) then its the cats meow! At that point, I could justify dropping $$$ on a iPad (hmm... WP7 you say?)
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07-28-2011 at 06:09 AM.
07-28-2011 at 06:09 AM.
Quote from rayzac :
Android is a lot more user friendly when you know what you are doing and offers many more option in my opinion. Because of that, I am waiting for the Droid Bionic and could care less about the iPhone 5.
Couldn't care less.................

Yea...for someone that REALLY wants to screw around with their phone, Androids are better...but that is like saying Linux is better than Windows, haha.
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07-28-2011 at 06:16 AM.
07-28-2011 at 06:16 AM.
I care a little about it so technically, I could care less.

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07-28-2011 at 06:36 AM.
07-28-2011 at 06:36 AM.
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Couldn't care less.................

Yea...for someone that REALLY wants to screw around with their phone, Androids are better...but that is like saying Linux is better than Windows, haha.
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I care a little about it so technically, I could care less.

Harhar
Iagree x2 Big Grin

Sometimes you can get a 90-95% solution with 25% of the effort. Too much going on right now to fiddle with a freaking phone to get it to do what I want.
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07-28-2011 at 06:50 AM.
07-28-2011 at 06:50 AM.
Quote from Curtieson :
I am kind of torn on this...

All the numbers that are released about Apples are sooooo tough to actually compare. Hardly anyone that actually WANTS an Apple will try anything else because of the status of the device.

On the flip side though, anyone that actually says they would choose a free Android over a free iPhone is just kidding themselves...3/4 of all Androids are packed with bloatware and buggy as all hell. Yes, there are some manufactures that have got that OS right...but it is your gamble to try to find which one...plus once you do, good luck sifting through all those crap for apps they have.

I really wish people would start to actually seriously look at Windows Phone 7. The fact that they are actually making improvements to the OS is refreshing (looking at you, Mr. Outdated, one new feature in the last 3 years iOS)... Especially with the fact that most of the people out there with smartphones (especially if you exclude businessmen) are using it solely to look at maps, find a place to eat and screw around on Facebook...ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL of which are features that you don't need an app to do on WP7 making it WAY faster to actually find what you want and get back to having fun doing it.
i'd take my Droid Pro (and a few other select Android phones) over an iPhone. but at this point, it's really down to personal choice.

with the latest versions of Android, the normal "Apple is so much easier to use" is a dated argument: my grandmother figured out her Droid X after a ten-minute session with the Verizon salesman. i've experienced bugs with my Pro (especially at launch), but my buddy had his share of problems when he bought an iPhone4 at launch and my wife has had a few since she got hers a few weeks ago. neither platform is completely bug-free if you actually use it like a smartphone.

WP7 is an interesting OS, no doubt. our MS rep here at work has been basically giving us phones to get us to switch, and they're awesome for business phones for MS shops. they are not great consumer devices, mainly because only a small number of developers release apps for the WP platform. if WP had the developer base of Android, i'd definitely take a look, but as it stands, iOS and Android are the only platforms with real app selection, the major draw of a smartphone.

in my mind, it comes down to balancing your desires for flexibility of the OS, app selection, coolness factor, interoperability with employer services, and network speed. my wife cares more about having a nice camera than having the ability to install apps from the Amazon app store, so she got an iPhone, and that's fine. i care more about my phone working seamlessly with Google products than having a cool-looking phone, so i got a Droid Pro, and that's fine.
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07-28-2011 at 07:05 AM.
07-28-2011 at 07:05 AM.
Quote from rayzac :
I care a little about it so technically, I could care less.

Harhar
Ok...for the 1st time in the hundreds of me correcting people, that is the 1st time I got a response that wasn't "Whatever, Dude". Plus it logically DID make sense...kinda, haha

Quote from Ram|bunc|tious :
Don't be a hater.
I'll admit I am a hater but not of Apple, I am a hater of iSheep that know nothing about their device yet throw $500 at a company every chance they get.

Did you read the stat that 1/3 of iPhone 4 owners think their device is 4G technology? You think these people are making informed decisions on how they spend their money?

BAAAAHHHHHHH!!


Quote from Ram|bunc|tious :
The iPhone is certainly not "state of the art" anymore - but from a usability perspective, it sets the bar higher than those other devices.

I think the public has grown tired of continued promises from Microsoft on this platform, I know I have. Until a large segment of the user community shifts, I certainly won't give this another passing thought Nono2 (and I'm a Microsoft bigot with work experience there)
Ok, I tie these two toghether because my opinion on the cell phone market (I LOVE talking about this stuff too, haha) is that Android fills the need for CHEAP and Apple fills the needs for "Duhhhhhhh, I click buttons and my phone works 100% of the time"

Not saying all iPhone users are idiots, but it sells well because when you are an idiot you can use one no problem! haha

I think the Windows Device is filling both worlds. It is cheap, ~6 options out right now that can all be snagged for $0.01 to $99 (usually $50) that are all rocking the same specs as the $200 iPhone...yet with a usability about 80% of the way if you were traveling from where Android sits to where iPhones sit.

I am not saying my WP7 is perfect right now. With the new update due to hint the shelves within a couple weeks time it is going to finally close that gap on the iPhone and I predict pass it in terms of usability. As of now on your iPhone you need three apps to find a place to eat in Urban Spoon, open the Map App to get directions, then open the Facebook and Twitter Apps to post where you are. All of that can be done without opening one single app in the new Windows Phone 7.

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... but I am a businessman and I get tremendous value from the iPhone. Course if it could work correctly with SharePoint (ActiveX?) then its the cats meow! At that point, I could justify dropping $$$ on a iPad (hmm... WP7 you say?)
All the sync options out and about right now are really up in the air and hard to understand, haha...WP7 has started some with the Office Suite plus Skydrive (yea, we already have an iCloud).

Is SharePoint part of Office 365?
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07-28-2011 at 07:09 AM.
07-28-2011 at 07:09 AM.
One of the biggest negatives for iPhone is not being able to have different sounds for my email accounts. For my job, I have my own account of course but also a shared helpdesk account. On my Droid, I was able to set different tones for each of those so I would know if I had to worry about it or not. On the iPhone, it is one tone without a way to change it.

Also, on many apps, you can get into settings on Droid within the app itself. On iPhone, you mostly have to exit, go to settings, then find it there.
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07-28-2011 at 07:16 AM.
07-28-2011 at 07:16 AM.
my existing phone works fine
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07-28-2011 at 07:18 AM.
07-28-2011 at 07:18 AM.
I will not be getting the iPhone 4S that is coming out this year but I will be getting the iPhone 5 that will come out next year.
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07-28-2011 at 07:25 AM.
07-28-2011 at 07:25 AM.
Quote from rayzac :
One of the biggest negatives for iPhone is not being able to have different sounds for my email accounts. For my job, I have my own account of course but also a shared helpdesk account. On my Droid, I was able to set different tones for each of those so I would know if I had to worry about it or not. On the iPhone, it is one tone without a way to change it.

Also, on many apps, you can get into settings on Droid within the app itself. On iPhone, you mostly have to exit, go to settings, then find it there.
yeah, little things like that have come up pretty often as my wife gets used to hers. the funny part is that the only time i even look at them is when she asks if i can do them; i have the same email/call/text message sounds for everyone. nice to know i can change them, though.
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07-28-2011 at 07:26 AM.
07-28-2011 at 07:26 AM.
Quote from Curtieson :
Did you read the stat that 1/3 of iPhone 4 owners think their device is 4G technology? You think these people are making informed decisions on how they spend their money?
Speaking of iSheep ... did you see that 95% of the women in the lounge want to make me a hot sandwich and provide me OTs? You read it on the internets so it must be true Wink

BAAAAHHHHHHH!!

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Not saying all iPhone users are idiots, but it sells well because when you are an idiot you can use one no problem! haha
I've been called worse Harhar (much worse by 95% of the women in the lounge)

Quote from Curtieson :
I think the Windows Device is filling both worlds. It is cheap, ~6 options out right now that can all be snagged for $0.01 to $99 (usually $50) that are all rocking the same specs as the $200 iPhone...yet with a usability about 80% of the way if you were traveling from where Android sits to where iPhones sit.
My problem is the commitment factor, I haven't been tied into


Quote from Curtieson :
I am not saying my WP7 is perfect right now. With the new update due to hint the shelves within a couple weeks time it is going to finally close that gap on the iPhone and I predict pass it in terms of usability.
Refer to earlier comments re: repeated disappointments in Microsoft implementation. I'm sure its made great strides, but I'm content with my I can have it now 95% solution.

Quote from Curtieson :
As of now on your iPhone you need three apps to find a place to eat in Urban Spoon, open the Map App to get directions, then open the Facebook and Twitter Apps to post where you are. All of that can be done without opening one single app in the new Windows Phone 7.
Many apps integrating mapping capabilities now fwiw. FB update meh.


Quote from Curtieson :
All the sync options out and about right now are really up in the air and hard to understand, haha...WP7 has started some with the Office Suite plus Skydrive (yea, we already have an iCloud).
I just heart how competition is driving functionality. Win-win for consumers! Rock

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Is SharePoint Online part of Office 365?
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Quote from rayzac :
One of the biggest negatives for iPhone is not being able to have different sounds for my email accounts.
Facepalm
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