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Man Says Ex-Girlfriend Stole His Sperm to Create Kids

901 November 27, 2011 at 04:58 PM in Babies & Kids (4)
A New York man was stunned to find out that his four-year-old twins were not an accidental pregnancy after all -- but that his desperate girlfriend secretly stashed away his sperm and used it for an in-vitro procedure, he charges in a lawsuit.

Joseph Pressil, 36, was not planning on having children with Anetria Burnett, with whom he was in a relationship for six months in 2007, he said.

So she took matters into her own hands, he told the New York Post, in order to remain in his Texas house and make a legal bid for half of his possessions.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11...z1exPMALDX

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11-29-2011 at 02:30 PM.
11-29-2011 at 02:30 PM.
Hm, back in 1972/1973, even though birth control pills aren't 100% effective, there was not ONE accidental pregnancy that occurred amongst women taking the pill?
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11-29-2011 at 02:37 PM.
11-29-2011 at 02:37 PM.
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Maybe, maybe not, only the gentleman knows, but you certainly do not Wink

Maybe, maybe not, only the gentleman knows, but you certainly do not Wink
The point is.. don't judge, lest you be judged. Mad Scientist is a nice guy, not attacking him.. just pointing out that he's passing judgement on people for doing the same thing he's doing. We all do it, it's human nature.
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11-29-2011 at 02:42 PM.
11-29-2011 at 02:42 PM.
Quote from Frogstar :
Hm, back in 1972/1973, even though birth control pills aren't 100% effective, there was not ONE accidental pregnancy that occurred amongst women taking the pill?

The pill becomes ineffective if you take certain medications, women know this - and when they are on certain medications - one must take extra precautions while having sex - it's a known factor.

Even back then young women were known to back up the pill, with spermicide and condoms as well - see it was a different generation for some of us - coming home pregnant was NOT an option shake head shake head shake head
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11-29-2011 at 02:46 PM.
11-29-2011 at 02:46 PM.
Quote from Phrozt :
Yeah.. had my son out of wedlock w/an idiot. 3 months w/her and we knew we weren't right for each other.. and then she said, "I'm preggo" (yes, I've had a paternity test).

She was on the nuva ring (and so were a LOT of the other unplanned preggos in the OBGYN office) and we used condoms *as well* most of the time... so yeah, accidents do happen.

It's awesome how much ridicule from everyone that I got (and still get) during that time. My cousin who I have always had a really good relationship was the biggest surprise. She kept insisting that it would never happen to her and I'm like, "Really? So you're telling me you've never had sex, and/or never had sex and used protection? Oh wait.. you have?? Congratulations, you've done everything that I have."

Thing is.. it happens. Though the thought did go through my mind that my ex might have planted it.. but I don't think she really would have. I mean how do you get through two layers of protection?

oh.. and it's fun that after I mention to people that we used two types of protection, but not condoms all the time... I get even more ridicule because *I* should have been using condoms ALL the time. So when I'd first talk to someone about it, it was,
"well you should have used protection."
"We did."
"Oh.... well what did you use?"
"Nuva ring... and condoms most of the time."
"Well you should have used condoms EVERY time.. that's your own fault!"

I'm sorry, how many people do you know who regularly use two types of protection? Not saying people don't... but it's not that common.

Well, sometimes there are parents whom are telling their son's to triple layer it - in certain circumstances - when they think their "son" might get trapped by a young lady - whom the parents think is nothing more than a meal ticket - even though the young lady if one wants to call "her" that - is on the pill. Pill, condom, spermicide - triple layer it all the way High Five

As I said, sometimes the very thought of 18 years of child support is really skeery and/or 18 years plus, if the child has any type of developmental issues - which really throws a monkey wrench into ONLY 18 years - and a lifetime of support - and drill that into a young man's head - and they will triple layer it Big Grin

Sorry you got jacked after 3 months Sadwalk Sometimes, it does happen though Frown
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jenni.
11-29-2011 at 02:46 PM.
11-29-2011 at 02:46 PM.
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I hope he doesn't have to pay child support.. It's retarded what women get away with.

My son's shoes have been falling apart for over a month and apparently $500 a month can't replace a $20 pair of shoes. I have him very close to half the time, but that doesn't mean crap. She continues to exploit him for free money, despite not needing it at all, and only doing so to "get back at me" even tho she's the one that cheated on me and left me (I have all of the txts to back this up).

I'm just relating this because child custody laws are incredibly farked up and HEAVILY favor the mother just because of past precedence, even in the face of terrible mothers. I absolutely hate this ugly world (child custody laws/child support). I had no clue about how terrible it was until I was forced into it.

I'm seriously hoping this dood doesn't go through all of that. Hell.. maybe he can even make some headway for us decent fathers out there...


EDIT: Oh and.. FWIW.. the reason I'm pissed today is because she just emailed me that she enrolled our son in a new daycare that he'll be starting at NEXT WEEK. It's closer to her place and another 10 minutes away from me (so probably about 40 minutes of driving him to daycare and getting BACK to work, while it's on her way to work).

She didn't talk to me about it at all, and when I asked her if we could talk about it, she ignored me. I can't do a farking thing about it because of this farked up child custody system.
That is really screwed up. Really. It's sad there are women like that. BUT, there are also women like my mom who never got child support from my biological father. Well, that's not true. He paid sporadically until I was about 3, but not after that. It wasn't like it is now. It was much harder to enforce, and he just did everything he could to not pay it. Luckily my DAD (notice I didn't say biological father) stepped in and took care of me. There were many years though I know she could have really used that money to help out. Good for you for looking out for your son, even if she isn't.

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Hm, back in 1972/1973, even though birth control pills aren't 100% effective, there was not ONE accidental pregnancy that occurred amongst women taking the pill?
Ask my 3rd child. laugh out loud

FWIW. Child #2..I had been on the depo shot and wanted to go off of it. Health dept said I couldn't have BC pills until I had a cycle (that I had not had in over 20 months). I didn't have a cycle. I had DS#2.
Child #3- I was on the pill. My uncle had passed away and I was very sick because I was so stressed and upset. I had thrown up a lot. I guess a pill didn't take. I got #3. He is named after the uncle. laugh out loud
It's ok. We were ok with having them...but the tubes were tied after that.
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11-29-2011 at 03:11 PM.
11-29-2011 at 03:11 PM.
Quote from Mad Scientist :
Miss |V|al is correct. People should be more careful and selective about who they "sleep" with. Condoms break, people forget to take pills, etc., etc. and unintentional pregnancies occur everyday. If you don't want to "be attached" to the person you are about to have sex with, for the rest of your life, you probably should reconsider farking them.

Besides that, if you fark up and contract HIV, AIDS or other permanent STD, your chances of finding someone who is actually willing to marry you drastically decreases.
Careful with sweeping generalizations. The number of people with Herpes Type I and/or II is fairly high based on my years of STD training. A lot people don't get the blood tests done because they think a cold sore isn't the same thing as Herpes and can't lead to Type II. Facepalm

I was in a LTR with someone who had AIDS and it didn't send me fleeing into the hills.
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11-29-2011 at 03:13 PM.
11-29-2011 at 03:13 PM.
Quote from jj.12321 :
So you're already commited to spending the rest of your life with this girlfriend of yours?
When did you get engaged or agree to that commitment?
I don't remember ever hearing that in that story you told about having sex with her the first time..
How is that any of your business?

If you must know, we did talk about pregnancy and STDs, before sleeping together. For the past forty years, I only slept with one woman, my wife. Before me, my girlfriend was with only one man, her husband, who passed away. So it was reasonably safe bet that any STD wasn't really an issue. Due to medical issues, she never could have children, so pregnancy was never an issue. As far as commitment, it is there, not yet official, but there never the less.
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11-29-2011 at 04:50 PM.
11-29-2011 at 04:50 PM.
Quote from Mad Scientist :
Miss |V|al is correct. People should be more careful and selective about who they "sleep" with. Condoms break, people forget to take pills, etc., etc. and unintentional pregnancies occur everyday. If you don't want to "be attached" to the person you are about to have sex with, for the rest of your life, you probably should reconsider farking them.

Besides that, if you fark up and contract HIV, AIDS or other permanent STD, your chances of finding someone who is actually willing to marry you drastically decreases.
Thing is, that's really not what the story in the OP was about. Those are all tangents. Did things happen just like the guy said in the OP? No one here knows, but what he claims to have gone through is certainly credible because it isn't the first time guys have found themselves in such a position. That article isn't the first one I have ever read of a guy that had a psycho gf and that crazy biotch scooped out the semen or somehow kept it, then used it in artificial fertilization to get pregnant. And the guy seems to always be on the hook regardless. Somehow that seems very unjust to me.
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Glad you could see the comedic way I was trying to look at some of that to, when so many tangents far from the OP getting started are why I haven't gone into the podium to post this time around. Talk about psycho....laugh out loud


Does anyone else see it as ironic that one of Piccaboo's posts reproduced 3 times a few posts up in this thread??? Oh shiznit....am I financially responsible now for those two posts that reproduced like clones from Piccaboo's original one now because I am a man??? Oh noes!!!
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11-29-2011 at 08:35 PM.
11-29-2011 at 08:35 PM.
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Does anyone else see it as ironic that one of Piccaboo's posts reproduced 3 times a few posts up in this thread??? Oh shiznit....am I financially responsible now for those two posts that reproduced like clones from Piccaboo's original one now because I am a man??? Oh noes!!!
You're farked, cause I'm sterile Rofl2 If you are reproducing clones of me - baby you are one hellva fark somehow Woot Woot
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11-29-2011 at 10:38 PM.
11-29-2011 at 10:38 PM.
Quote from Piccaboo :
Well, sometimes there are parents whom are telling their son's to triple layer it - in certain circumstances - when they think their "son" might get trapped by a young lady - whom the parents think is nothing more than a meal ticket - even though the young lady if one wants to call "her" that - is on the pill. Pill, condom, spermicide - triple layer it all the way High Five

As I said, sometimes the very thought of 18 years of child support is really skeery and/or 18 years plus, if the child has any type of developmental issues - which really throws a monkey wrench into ONLY 18 years - and a lifetime of support - and drill that into a young man's head - and they will triple layer it Big Grin

Sorry you got jacked after 3 months Sadwalk Sometimes, it does happen though Frown
I'm sorry but you must have pretty organized sex if you have time in the throws of passion to apply spermacide and condoms...besides the fact that many people have allergic reactions to all forms of BC...some women can only take certain BC because their bodies reject the other forms, many people are allergic to spermicides and some are allergic to latex condoms. Take into account that most forms of BC are between 96-99% affective IF they are used perfectly...from that point they are between 85-92% affective...

Considering how often people have sex... there are bound to be accidents with that kinda percentage...the majority of humans don't use BC perfectly...accidents happen...and if you're naturally sterile for biological reasons and not out of choice to have an operation to make you sterile (note that even vasectomies/tube tying are NOT 100% affective) then you wouldn't have to worry about throws of passion because you're sterile...whereas many people do. Unless you have your balls removed or your uterus removed or you actually are sterile meaning you have at least 3 sex chromosomes other than the normal 2...you have a chance of creating a pregnancy...

That's a lot of chance, but you must remember, we're wired to reproduce so our bodies will do to the best of their abilities to make babies and since humans aren't perfect...baby accidents will happen...

I'm not saying that you shouldn't take precautions but sometimes I WANT the ROMANCE of sex and to not have to fumble with spermicide or condoms. Yes, I accept that an accident may happen but still the intent to not have a child is still there and should be respected...

I throw out my BC packages with the sugar pills still in them...what stops my b/f from collecting the sugar pills over 3 months and replacing one of my old packages with only sugar pills and hiding my real BC and then trying to get me pregnant just so that I'll stay with him for the sake of the baby...Yes it's far-fetched but it's possible...people do crazy things to get what they want and abuse the chance of BC not working to get there.

Lots of accidents happened back then as they do today, yes there are better chances of not getting pregnant but there were tons of forms of BC back before "The Pill" and at least 2 of my aunts/uncles were conceived using the diaphragm with spermicide or condoms...

Also, my dad's mom (my grandma) still thinks my mom "trapped" him by having me, when they both decided that they wanted kids and the doctors didn't believe my mother could get pregnant so they told her to start trying before they were married...and she got pregnant instantly even with a vaginal tumor...so even though parents thinks someone might trap them doesn't mean that's always the case.

I'm just saying to think that avoiding pregnancy when being involve in hetero sex with 2 reproductive people is 100% avoidable...it's just not true.

(Your use of "whom" kills me, btw)
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11-29-2011 at 10:47 PM.
11-29-2011 at 10:47 PM.
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Shit like this happens a lot more often [dailymail.co.uk] than people think. And the guys wind up on the hook for child support. This crap ruins lives and the legal system in this country is set up to favor the women in nearly every instance, no matter the actual circumstances.
QFT.

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The very unfortunate part of all of this is that these children are caught in the middle. What's even worse is that I bet despite all of this, the mother winds up with custody & the father ends up paying child support. Which was her goal from the beginning... Scratchchin
I've seen this dynamic played out...with real people...that I really know...in real life. It's really farked up.
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11-30-2011 at 06:27 AM.
11-30-2011 at 06:27 AM.
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I'm sorry but you must have pretty organized sex if you have time in the throws of passion to apply spermacide and condoms...besides the fact that many people have allergic reactions to all forms of BC...some women can only take certain BC because their bodies reject the other forms, many people are allergic to spermicides and some are allergic to latex condoms. Take into account that most forms of BC are between 96-99% affective IF they are used perfectly...from that point they are between 85-92% affective...

Considering how often people have sex... there are bound to be accidents with that kinda percentage...the majority of humans don't use BC perfectly...accidents happen...and if you're naturally sterile for biological reasons and not out of choice to have an operation to make you sterile (note that even vasectomies/tube tying are NOT 100% affective) then you wouldn't have to worry about throws of passion because you're sterile...whereas many people do. Unless you have your balls removed or your uterus removed or you actually are sterile meaning you have at least 3 sex chromosomes other than the normal 2...you have a chance of creating a pregnancy...

That's a lot of chance, but you must remember, we're wired to reproduce so our bodies will do to the best of their abilities to make babies and since humans aren't perfect...baby accidents will happen...

I'm not saying that you shouldn't take precautions but sometimes I WANT the ROMANCE of sex and to not have to fumble with spermicide or condoms. Yes, I accept that an accident may happen but still the intent to not have a child is still there and should be respected...

I throw out my BC packages with the sugar pills still in them...what stops my b/f from collecting the sugar pills over 3 months and replacing one of my old packages with only sugar pills and hiding my real BC and then trying to get me pregnant just so that I'll stay with him for the sake of the baby...Yes it's far-fetched but it's possible...people do crazy things to get what they want and abuse the chance of BC not working to get there.

Lots of accidents happened back then as they do today, yes there are better chances of not getting pregnant but there were tons of forms of BC back before "The Pill" and at least 2 of my aunts/uncles were conceived using the diaphragm with spermicide or condoms...

Also, my dad's mom (my grandma) still thinks my mom "trapped" him by having me, when they both decided that they wanted kids and the doctors didn't believe my mother could get pregnant so they told her to start trying before they were married...and she got pregnant instantly even with a vaginal tumor...so even though parents thinks someone might trap them doesn't mean that's always the case.

I'm just saying to think that avoiding pregnancy when being involve in hetero sex with 2 reproductive people is 100% avoidable...it's just not true.

(Your use of "whom" kills me, btw)
Cutting thru the chase of your post, yes, I did have a very organized sex life when I was sexually active when young - the very idea of getting pregnant and going home and telling that to my father would have been out of the question - so yes - every precaution was taken by myself and my partner whom was my boyfriend at that time.

You take exception to the word "whom" - I use that as in parents "whom" talk to their young son's about "sex" and "their" responsibility in not getting young girls/women pregnant and the responsibilities that result due to sexual activity. I'm sure many parents talk to their daughter's about pregnancy - how many parents talk to their son's about this - and drill it into their heads - that it is not only an 18 year commitment financially - but may well be beyond that if said child is born with developmental issues. Hence, the word "whom" relates to "parents". Sorry if you are unable to see that in the post I made.

I've seen both sides of the story like this - family on the other side of getting pregnant - no child support - the mother and child going without. The father barely ever paying child support. What a nightmare for the child, whom was the one whom suffered. As I said, it totally sucks for the children caught in the middle of situations like this, and I hate, hate, hate it with a passion - as I have seen it played out it real life - and I despise it with a passion beyond belief.

But I'll say this again, this post certainly has gotten blown out of proportion from where it began nod
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11-30-2011 at 06:29 AM.
11-30-2011 at 06:29 AM.
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How is that any of your business?

If you must know, we did talk about pregnancy and STDs, before sleeping together. For the past forty years, I only slept with one woman, my wife. Before me, my girlfriend was with only one man, her husband, who passed away. So it was reasonably safe bet that any STD wasn't really an issue. Due to medical issues, she never could have children, so pregnancy was never an issue. As far as commitment, it is there, not yet official, but there never the less.
Is it your business to go around telling people that they should not have sex until they are ready to be with that person permanently?
I'm just reminding you that you evidently didn't follow your own advice.
The point is that life happens. When you have sex with someone, it's not 100% certain you will be with them for life. Even if you wait until marriage, you might get divorced.
It was not a personal attack on you.. Just saying your insistence on a permanent commitment is not realistic.. You yourself didn't even do it.
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11-30-2011 at 07:17 AM.
11-30-2011 at 07:17 AM.
Quote from jj.12321 :
Is it your business to go around telling people that they should not have sex until they are ready to be with that person permanently?
I'm just reminding you that you evidently didn't follow your own advice.
The point is that life happens. When you have sex with someone, it's not 100% certain you will be with them for life. Even if you wait until marriage, you might get divorced.
It was not a personal attack on you.. Just saying your insistence on a permanent commitment is not realistic.. You yourself didn't even do it.
First, it is called free speech; google it, if this baffles you.

Second, I said "People should be more careful and selective about who they "sleep" with." How is that not following my own advice? Do you think people should freely fark whoever they want, with no concern or regard for a possible pregnancy or contracting or passing on diseases?

Every night, there are people engaged in a "one-night stands" or "just hooking up", who have no idea if their "partner" has an STD, HIV positive, full-blown AIDS or just a serial killer. Some of them would be lucky if they could identify who they slept with in a police lineup.

Ever hear the phrase, "Who's your daddy?" It's not just a flip saying. The number of children in our society that have no idea who their father is.....is sickening. Watch Jerry's Springer's show sometime, they have woman go through numerous DNA tests, trying to figure out which guy got them pregnant and is the father of their kid. This is NOT normal. This is not fair to the children of these "one-night stands".

Condoms break, it happens. If you fark someone who has a STD or HIV and the condom breaks, you could contract the virus. And sometime later, you fark someone else and another condom breaks, you could pass that virus to them. Do you really want any of that to happen? Really?

Can you name everyone you ever slept with, in date order? Could you find them again? Are you 100% positive, you don't have a child somewhere that you don't know about? Are you 100% positive you don't have an STD now? I can answer "Yes" to all those questions, can you? If you can answer "Yes" to those questions, I applaud you for being more responsible than a lot of people in today's society.
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11-30-2011 at 10:35 AM.
11-30-2011 at 10:35 AM.
Quote from jj.12321 :
Is it your business to go around telling people that they should not have sex until they are ready to be with that person permanently?
I'm just reminding you that you evidently didn't follow your own advice.
The point is that life happens. When you have sex with someone, it's not 100% certain you will be with them for life. Even if you wait until marriage, you might get divorced.
It was not a personal attack on you.. Just saying your insistence on a permanent commitment is not realistic.. You yourself didn't even do it.
I think you're misunderstanding what he originally said.

His original post:

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If you don't want to "be attached" to the person you are about to have sex with, for the rest of your life, you probably should reconsider farking them.
The way I took it, I took it to mean "attached" to another person via a kid. In other words, if you're not ready for the possibility of raising a child with someone and having to be connected to them that way for the rest of your life, you should rethink having sex with them.

Which isn't unreasonable at all. He's not saying you have to be married, he's not saying anything about having to make a commitment first, he's just saying consider the possible consequences of your actions. Would you be ready to raise a kid with this person? No? Then you should probably rethink sleeping with them.

And I don't see anything wrong with that. Too many people do not, and then end up in situations with accidental pregnancies, and two people who can't stand each other, all the while a kid is being jerked around between two places his/her whole life, and that just really isn't fair to the kid.
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