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Emergency cell phone ban!!!!!!!!

21,793 3,419 December 13, 2011 at 09:44 AM in News (3) USA TODAY
NTSB has called for a emgergency cell phone ban in cars everywhee. No use at all. I applaud this call. There are so many idiots on the road who can't drive and talk at the same time. The worst are the textings. What we need is the cops to actually enforce the law. These things are already illegal in CA but people still do it all the time.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nati...51874966/1
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12-13-2011 at 11:56 AM.
12-13-2011 at 11:56 AM.
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There are little things called subpeona and warrants. Bring up the 4th the next time your ISP get's a request for your IP address location from the authorities.
Subpeona and warrants laugh out loud In regards to a cell phone ticket? Wow. laugh out loud
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12-13-2011 at 11:56 AM.
12-13-2011 at 11:56 AM.
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Btw, you do realize the process it takes to get a subpoena/warrant right? Or is this similar to your understanding of OnStar?
This is why I posted this one: nod

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You are so naive Roll
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12-13-2011 at 11:58 AM.
12-13-2011 at 11:58 AM.
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They're going to subpoena my phone records for a traffic stop? Rofl2

That would easily exceed the cost of whatever ticket I'd get from it.
You're assumming that everyone would fight it. How many people fight traffic tickets?

As for proof. Why wouldn't it be considered the same way a speeding ticket is? The officer says you speeded. You say you didn't. The court agrees with the officer.

So to the people who say it's unenforcable, then I guess traffic tickets are unenforcable as well.

By the way, in just one month, CA issued 52,664 cell phone while driving tickets. That's a lot for something that would never happen.
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12-13-2011 at 12:00 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:00 PM.
Quote from Moot-N-Me :
Subpeona and warrants laugh out loud In regards to a cell phone ticket? Wow. laugh out loud
Oh yeah, because every state has the funds for all of that every time someone gets a cell phone ticket! Whee
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12-13-2011 at 12:02 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:02 PM.
Quote from travfar :
You're assumming that everyone would fight it. How many people fight traffic tickets?

As for proof. Why wouldn't it be considered the same way a speeding ticket is? The officer says you speeded. You say you didn't. The court agrees with the officer.

So to the people who say it's unenforcable, then I guess traffic tickets are unenforcable as well.

By the way, in just one month, CA issued 52,664 cell phone while driving tickets. That's a lot for something that would never happen.
california issued all those tickets cause its farking bankrupt lol
why not look up how many parking tickets it issued in the same month.
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12-13-2011 at 12:02 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:02 PM.
Quote from travfar :
You're assumming that everyone would fight it. How many people fight traffic tickets?

As for proof. Why wouldn't it be considered the same way a speeding ticket is? The officer says you speeded. You say you didn't. The court agrees with the officer.

So to the people who say it's unenforcable, then I guess traffic tickets are unenforcable as well.

By the way, in just one month, CA issued 52,664 cell phone while driving tickets. That's a lot for something that would never happen.
You can bet your ass I'd go to court for it. Hell I'll go to court for any traffic ticket I get. I haven't gotten one in 5 years though.

I have a feeling that the onus would be on the court to prove I was actually talking on my phone/texting while I was driving when the officer stopped me. Not me to prove that I wasn't...
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12-13-2011 at 12:02 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:02 PM.
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Btw, you do realize the process it takes to get a subpoena/warrant right? Or is this similar to your understanding of OnStar?
For a phone record. You mean they can't copy from your phone when they pull you over?

http://articles.businessinsider.c...nload-aclu

Oh, I know you've been baffled by how this whole OnStar thing works. Here's a tip. Hit the big button.
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12-13-2011 at 12:03 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:03 PM.
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By the way, in just one month, CA issued 52,664 cell phone while driving tickets. That's a lot for something that would never happen.
Big deal!!!!! Woot It happens all the time!!!!!

But......again you're wrong. Nobody ever said that getting a ticket for talking on a hand held phone would never happen.

You're one mixed up kid.
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12-13-2011 at 12:03 PM.
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Quote from travfar :
You're assumming that everyone would fight it. How many people fight traffic tickets?

As for proof. Why wouldn't it be considered the same way a speeding ticket is? The officer says you speeded. You say you didn't. The court agrees with the officer.

So to the people who say it's unenforcable, then I guess traffic tickets are unenforcable as well.

By the way, in just one month, CA issued 52,664 cell phone while driving tickets. That's a lot for something that would never happen.
It's not even close to comparable to speeding. You can see a car speeding from quite a ways away, plus they have a radar gun. You don't even need to get a view of the driver to know if they're speeding.

You do for cell phone tickets. Talking/texting on a cell phone has been banned for I think at least a year now in my state (you can use hands-free) and at LEAST 1 in 5 cars I see, the driver is holding a cell phone up to their ear or texting on it. Do they get some? Sure. But the rate at which it occurs compared to the rate at which it's actually caught is quite a bit different.
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12-13-2011 at 12:03 PM.
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Quote from travfar :
By the way, in just one month, CA issued 52,664 cell phone while driving tickets. That's a lot for something that would never happen.
We need a clueless emoticon for you

What I said would never happen is hands free law that you started this thread about. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your analogies.

How many tickets did California issue for that? Here, let me answer it for you: Zero...and they never will because it will never happen.
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12-13-2011 at 12:04 PM.
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Oh yeah, because every state has the funds for all of that every time someone gets a cell phone ticket! Whee
I mean really....is this dude for real? Roll
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12-13-2011 at 12:04 PM.
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Big deal!!!!! Woot It happens all the time!!!!!

But......again you're wrong. Nobody ever said that getting a ticket for talking on a hand held phone would never happen.

You're one mixed up kid.
Iagree
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12-13-2011 at 12:06 PM.
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For a phone record. You mean they can't copy from your phone when they pull you over?

http://articles.businessinsider.c...nload-aclu

Oh, I know you've been baffled by how this whole OnStar thing works. Here's a tip. Hit the big button.
I'd seriously be interested in just how legal that would be. Sounds like it's possibly/arguably illegal search and seizure to me. I would never agree to a police officer searching my phone like that.
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12-13-2011 at 12:07 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:07 PM.
Quote from Moot-N-Me :
Big deal!!!!! Woot It happens all the time!!!!!

But......again you're wrong. Nobody ever said that getting a ticket for talking on a hand held phone would never happen.

You're one mixed up kid.
Really? Here's someone who said that. I know it's hard to concentrated when your nappies are full. Ask mommy to change them and then we can have a big boy talk.

Quote from vec :
It's still true in my state and states that aren't 90% wasteland.

How is this NTSB request enforceable? Will police pull over people for singing in the car? for talking to the passenger? for yelling at the kids in the back seat?

How will it be enforced? Please explain.

Or let me: It will never happen.
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