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Please help if you can - the internet needs you!
December 16, 2011 at
05:15 AM
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http://stopcensorship.
Yesterday I watched about three hours of this debate online [keepthewebopen.com] - the advocates for keeping the internet free (Reps. Lofgren, Issa, Chaffetz, and Polis, mainly) are fighting hard against a cadre of old technophobes who admit that they have no idea how the internet works or what it does.
The "good guys" managed to keep proposing amendments long enough that the debate was held over until today. They're starting again at 1000 EDT - roughly 90 minutes from now.
I don't know what else can be done but if you haven't already, PLEASE visit the first link and do as much as you can. If you have time & are willing to call, do that. If you can send email or sign petitions, do that. Educate yourself about the issue to be sure you agree - but I think any rational reasonable person will realize that this is a bad, bad bill and a horrible idea. The second link is another petition you can sign to have a Senator read your name during a filibuster of the Senate bill (right now the two bills are in committee).
I can't explain it any better than they do at stopcensorship.org so I won't try. Suffice to say that the internet as we know it could be drastically changed (IMO for the worse) should this bill pass.
I'll be watching as much as I can today - the third link has a live stream of the committee chambers.
Thanks.
http://stopcensorship.
Yesterday I watched about three hours of this debate online [keepthewebopen.com] - the advocates for keeping the internet free (Reps. Lofgren, Issa, Chaffetz, and Polis, mainly) are fighting hard against a cadre of old technophobes who admit that they have no idea how the internet works or what it does.
The "good guys" managed to keep proposing amendments long enough that the debate was held over until today. They're starting again at 1000 EDT - roughly 90 minutes from now.
I don't know what else can be done but if you haven't already, PLEASE visit the first link and do as much as you can. If you have time & are willing to call, do that. If you can send email or sign petitions, do that. Educate yourself about the issue to be sure you agree - but I think any rational reasonable person will realize that this is a bad, bad bill and a horrible idea. The second link is another petition you can sign to have a Senator read your name during a filibuster of the Senate bill (right now the two bills are in committee).
I can't explain it any better than they do at stopcensorship.org so I won't try. Suffice to say that the internet as we know it could be drastically changed (IMO for the worse) should this bill pass.
I'll be watching as much as I can today - the third link has a live stream of the committee chambers.
Thanks.
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http://stopcensorship.
Yesterday I watched about three hours of this debate online [keepthewebopen.com] - the advocates for keeping the internet free (Reps. Lofgren, Issa, Chaffetz, and Polis, mainly) are fighting hard against a cadre of old technophobes who admit that they have no idea how the internet works or what it does.
The "good guys" managed to keep proposing amendments long enough that the debate was held over until today. They're starting again at 1000 EDT - roughly 90 minutes from now.
I don't know what else can be done but if you haven't already, PLEASE visit the first link and do as much as you can. If you have time & are willing to call, do that. If you can send email or sign petitions, do that. Educate yourself about the issue to be sure you agree - but I think any rational reasonable person will realize that this is a bad, bad bill and a horrible idea. The second link is another petition you can sign to have a Senator read your name during a filibuster of the Senate bill (right now the two bills are in committee).
I can't explain it any better than they do at stopcensorship.org so I won't try. Suffice to say that the internet as we know it could be drastically changed (IMO for the worse) should this bill pass.
I'll be watching as much as I can today - the third link has a live stream of the committee chambers.
Thanks.
Do you know the Senate Bill number? I would like to read the proposed bill. Thanks!
MS
Edit: The bill is H.R.3261, and information on it can be found here [loc.gov].
I can already hear the first questions: "How can we tax the Internet?"
I can already hear the first questions: "How can we tax the Internet?"
...... Requires online service providers, internet search engines, payment network providers, and internet advertising services, upon receiving a copy of a court order relating to an ag action, to carry out certain preventative measures including withholding services from an infringing site or preventing users located in the united states from accessing the infringing site. .......
It's bullshit and the amendments introduced yesterday to, for example, require a court order before a website has to take anything down - got shot down (although Issa and Polis actually withdrew their amendments so they could re-introduce them later on).
There are a bunch of old reps up there saying "I don't really know what the internet is for but I'm voting for this bill" which is pure bullshit. The one guy (Chaffetz) who said, and I quote, "Let's get the nerds in here to answer some questions" got shot down too.
This is IMPORTANT. I've half a mind to walk over to the committee building (I work in DC now) and see what I can get done... but I also have to work today & I'm not sure they'd let me in
If people can get the phones ringing that might help. And cross your fingers & pray for Issa, Chaffetz, Polis & Lofgren - they may be our last hope!
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BTW, I emailed my Rep. asking her to vote against this bill, whenever it comes up for a vote.
These are the people who are debating this right now. And we have like 4 or 5 representatives on our side, and they're getting shot down left and right.
These are the people who are debating this right now. And we have like 4 or 5 representatives on our side, and they're getting shot down left and right.
I....am just so angry and sad right now that this might get passed by these guys.
It looks like the majority for NOW (recess until 1PM) is NO. 8 voted I, 20 voted nay.
It looks like the majority for NOW (recess until 1PM) is NO. 8 voted I, 20 voted nay.
This bill is probably going to pass, make no mistake - our only real hope is that someone can get enough amendments cleared to slow it down when it's implemented.