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Please help if you can - the internet needs you!

26,675 2,340 December 16, 2011 at 05:15 AM in Internet & Websites (6)
http://americancensorship.org/
http://stopcensorship.org/

Yesterday I watched about three hours of this debate online [keepthewebopen.com] - the advocates for keeping the internet free (Reps. Lofgren, Issa, Chaffetz, and Polis, mainly) are fighting hard against a cadre of old technophobes who admit that they have no idea how the internet works or what it does.

The "good guys" managed to keep proposing amendments long enough that the debate was held over until today. They're starting again at 1000 EDT - roughly 90 minutes from now.

I don't know what else can be done but if you haven't already, PLEASE visit the first link and do as much as you can. If you have time & are willing to call, do that. If you can send email or sign petitions, do that. Educate yourself about the issue to be sure you agree - but I think any rational reasonable person will realize that this is a bad, bad bill and a horrible idea. The second link is another petition you can sign to have a Senator read your name during a filibuster of the Senate bill (right now the two bills are in committee).

I can't explain it any better than they do at stopcensorship.org so I won't try. Suffice to say that the internet as we know it could be drastically changed (IMO for the worse) should this bill pass.

I'll be watching as much as I can today - the third link has a live stream of the committee chambers.

Thanks. Smilie

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12-24-2011 at 09:53 AM.
12-24-2011 at 09:53 AM.
Here are the congressmen who are sponsoring the bill.

It's sad that Republicans and Democrats can't agree on anything except for anything that makes themselves bigger and we the people more dependent on them.

So much for Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. Now we have government deciding how we should buy healthcare, deciding whether we can buy McDonald's Happy Meals, and now deciding what we can and can't say on the Internet.

If you live in one of these districts, tell them you support the protection of copyright holders, but not by giving unlimited powers to government to do so.

(R) Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - Sponsor
(R) Rep Amodei, Mark E. [NV-2] - 11/3/2011
(R) Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 10/26/2011
(R) Rep Bono Mack, Mary [CA-45] - 10/26/2011
(R) Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 11/3/2011
(R) Rep Chabot, Steve [OH-1] - 10/26/2011
(R) Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] - 10/26/2011
(R) Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 10/26/2011
(R) Rep Griffin, Tim [AR-2] - 10/26/2011
(R) Rep King, Peter T. [NY-3] - 11/3/2011
(R) Rep Marino, Tom [PA-10] - 11/3/2011
(R) Rep Nunnelee, Alan [MS-1] - 11/3/2011
(R) Rep Quayle, Benjamin [AZ-3] - 12/13/2011
(R) Rep Ross, Dennis [FL-12] - 10/26/2011
(R) Rep Scalise, Steve [LA-1] - 11/14/2011
(R) Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 10/26/2011

(D) Rep Baca, Joe [CA-43] - 12/7/2011
(D) Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 11/14/2011
(D) Rep Bass, Karen [CA-33] - 11/3/2011
(D) Rep Berman, Howard L. [CA-28] - 10/26/2011
(D) Rep Chu, Judy [CA-32] - 11/30/2011
(D) Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 10/26/2011
(D) Rep Cooper, Jim [TN-5] - 12/12/2011
(D) Rep Deutch, Theodore E. [FL-19] - 10/26/2011
(D) Rep Holden, Tim [PA-17] - 11/30/2011
(D) Rep Larson, John B. [CT-1] - 11/30/2011
(D) Rep Lujan, Ben Ray [NM-3] - 11/14/2011
(D) Rep Owens, William L. [NY-23] - 11/14/2011
(D) Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29] - 10/26/2011
(D) Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27] - 12/7/2011
(D) Rep Wasserman Schultz, Debbie [FL-20] - 11/3/2011
(D) Rep Watt, Melvin L. [NC-12] - 11/3/2011
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12-24-2011 at 10:26 AM.
12-24-2011 at 10:26 AM.
Quote from hcl777 :
Here are the congressmen who are sponsoring the bill....

(D) Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 11/14/2011
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12-24-2011 at 10:31 AM.
12-24-2011 at 10:31 AM.
Quote from burninator :
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So if this passes we can blame YOU!
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12-24-2011 at 11:01 AM.
12-24-2011 at 11:01 AM.
Quote from The Raddish :
So if this passes we can blame YOU!
After the letter I just wrote to Mr. Barrow? No way! Stick Out Tongue
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veritablequandary
12-24-2011 at 12:32 PM.
12-24-2011 at 12:32 PM.
Goodlatte's not my rep but he is from my state. And he's an idiot. Watt (NC) is the guy who (I think) said the infamous "I'm not sure what the internet is for but I support this bill."
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12-24-2011 at 01:03 PM.
12-24-2011 at 01:03 PM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
Goodlatte's not my rep but he is from my state. And he's an idiot. Watt (NC) is the guy who (I think) said the infamous "I'm not sure what the internet is for but I support this bill."
That's got to be one of the most idiotic statements I have EVER heard.

It isn't good for people to be uninformed and it's beyond idiotic for someone representing those people to choose to remain uninformed.

The representation is incompetent.
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12-27-2011 at 11:11 AM.
12-27-2011 at 11:11 AM.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/money

Updating as promised. I don't know where we are re: resuming the debate but I will find out and post the info here.
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12-27-2011 at 11:54 AM.
12-27-2011 at 11:54 AM.
I am the 99%.
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12-28-2011 at 09:24 AM.
12-28-2011 at 09:24 AM.
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12-29-2011 at 02:04 PM.
12-29-2011 at 02:04 PM.
No news on when the debate will continue, but lots more people are getting into the fight.

Many people in the IT industry know & trust Tom's Hardware. Here's a really good article wherein the authors illustrate perfectly the kinds of consequences we can expect should SOPA and PROTECT-IP come to pass:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/...14393.html

Don't let up the pressure. Keep bugging your family. Ask them to tell one person they work with every day/week/month whatever they will listen to. This is making it's way, gradually, into the mainstream media [npr.org] too, but in a roundabout way. Still, you can send links to media outlets your relatives & friends might recognize, instead of stuff like Techdirt & DailyKos.

If you have time call your representatives. CALL. A phone call, even if you leave a voice message, carries so much more weight than emails. Don't stop emailing! But call too. Be a power for the change you want to see in the world.
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12-30-2011 at 11:48 PM.
12-30-2011 at 11:48 PM.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...ds-newsxml

This would be awesome to see, but scary if we make it this far.
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01-01-2012 at 04:04 PM.
01-01-2012 at 04:04 PM.
Quote from DNC :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a...ds-newsxml

This would be awesome to see, but scary if we make it this far.
From the above article:
"Sites such as Google, Amazon and Facebook could temporarily replace their usual homepage with a black screen and a message asking users to contact politicians and urge them to oppose the Stop Online Piracy Act.

The move could come as early as January 24, when the bill is due to be debated in the House of Representatives
. "

I agree it would be scary. nod But it may be one of the few ways to get the attention of people that have no idea what's going on or what may happen if either SOPA or the Protect IP bills pass. Frankly, though, I think that if they're going to do it (and I actually hope that they do), they need to do it at least a day or three before the House meets to discuss the bill. That way users would have a couple of days to (hopefully) email, call, or write their representatives before the debate.
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01-02-2012 at 10:15 PM.
01-02-2012 at 10:15 PM.
I really don't understand how he can say that we aren't legitimate or that our fears are unfounded. Facepalm
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