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Am I required to disclose this information before having sex?

7,598 277 March 29, 2007 at 05:33 AM in Question
My girlfriend was informed by her gynocologist that she has the human papillomavirus, or HPV. It's impossible to tell who had it first, but I'm most likely a carrier now as well. For those of you who don't know, HPV is a virus that's said to be a prerequisite for cervical cancer in women. Men can carry the virus, but it's nearly harmless for them.

Some HPV facts from wikipedia:
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HPV is the most common sexual transmitted infection in the United States. In the United States approximately 20-million people are currently infected with HPV about 6.2 million Americans will get infected with genital HPV this year.

24.5% prevalence of HPV among females 14 to 19 years old
44.8% prevalence of HPV among females 20 to 24 years old
27.4% prevalence of HPV among females 25 to 29 years old
27.5% prevalence of HPV among females 30 to 39 years old
25.2% prevalence of HPV among females 40 to 49 years old
19.6% prevalence of HPV among females 50 to 59 years old

In the absence of Pap testing or treatment, about 1% of women with genital HPV infections will eventually go on to develop cervical cancer.

Women who have Pap testing or other cervical cancer screenings on a regular basis dramatically decrease their chances of developing cervical cancer.

A 2006 study of 82 college students suggests that condoms can be up to 70% effective for preventing genital HPV infection if used for every sexual encounter.
Here's my question. Am I required to disclose this information before having relations with another woman? I have a feeling that everyone's kneejerk reaction will be "yes", but please consider the following. There's a huge chance that the woman already has the virus, and if she doesn't already she'll probably get it in the future*. With a condom, she probably won't get it from me anyway. With pap testing, there's a very very low risk of cancer. And quite frankly, I feel that she won't know all the facts and will think it's a bigger deal than it actually is.

Thoughts?







*Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]

The American Social Health Association projections in 2006 were yet more pessimistic, predicting that about 75% of the reproductive population will have been infected with genital HPV infection in their lifetime.
Would YOU disclose that you're an HPV carrier? (please read the wiki facts first)
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Jhaan
03-30-2007 at 10:38 AM.
03-30-2007 at 10:38 AM.
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but OP, why don't you marry your current GF? It sounds like you're trying to make plans for all the other women you plan on sleeping with.
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Just Peachy
03-30-2007 at 10:40 AM.
03-30-2007 at 10:40 AM.
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I lift weights 3x a week, play racquetball 2x week, ice hockey 2x a week so I'm no stranger to making personal sacrifices in the name of health/fitness.
Your drug of choice is over exercising.

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Smokers don't care about their health, so they would be more likely to have unprotected sex.
And yet, you are the OP to this thread.
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Striker
03-30-2007 at 10:54 AM.
03-30-2007 at 10:54 AM.
Quote from Jhaan :
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but OP, why don't you marry your current GF? It sounds like you're trying to make plans for all the other women you plan on sleeping with.
Who wants to marry a chick with HPV?


Sincerely,
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RugratsGalore
03-30-2007 at 10:56 AM.
03-30-2007 at 10:56 AM.
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The reason I don't know how hard it is to quit is because I'm smart enough not to smoke in the first place. If I woke up tomorrow, addicted to cigarettes, I would quit cold turkey. End of story. I lift weights 3x a week, play racquetball 2x week, ice hockey 2x a week so I'm no stranger to making personal sacrifices in the name of health/fitness.

Makes perfect sense. Smokers don't care about their health, so they would be more likely to have unprotected sex.
That is absolutely NOT what I'm saying. I'm saying I'll use a condom as always, and 99 times out of 100 won't pass it on. And the reasoning isn't simply that I don't like the habit, as you suggest. Rather, smokers have already demonstrated that they prefer immediate pleasure over long term health effects.
NOWHERE in your previous post I'm speaking of did you mention using a condom with a smoker, yet, you mentioned using a condom in your previous paragraph, that is, until you spoke of smokers.

I DO care about my health (hence the reason I follow up every 3 months with my GYN) but I made a stupid mistake as a teenager to start smoking. Until you have been there, don't judge me or others. You have NO idea how hard it is to stop smoking.

I've come to learn from this thread you're a very judgmental person.

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Who wants to marry a chick with HPV?


Sincerely,
Dude, you're a farking asshole. YOU could very well have it as well (unless you're a virgin.) There's actually a very good chance you do if you've ever had sex.
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03-30-2007 at 11:04 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:04 AM.
Quote from RugratsGalore :
NOWHERE in your previous post I'm speaking of did you mention using a condom with a smoker,
I thought it was a given. The scenario was if it's a one-time thing with a smoker. Of course I'm going to use a condom if it's a one-time thing.

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I DO care about my health (hence the reason I follow up every 3 months with my GYN) but I made a stupid mistake as a teenager to start smoking. Until you have been there, don't judge me or others. You have NO idea how hard it is to stop smoking.
Sometimes I think I should start smoking just to quit and I won't have to hear this "you don't know how hard it is to quit" baloney. Millions of people have quit smoking. You don't have the willpower to do something that millions of people have already proven is possible??


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I've come to learn from this thread you're a very judgmental person.
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Dude, you're a farking asshole.
LMAO
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RugratsGalore
03-30-2007 at 11:11 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:11 AM.
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I thought it was a given. The scenario was if it's a one-time thing with a smoker. Of course I'm going to use a condom if it's a one-time thing.

Sometimes I think I should start smoking just to quit and I won't have to hear this "you don't know how hard it is to quit" baloney. Millions of people have quit smoking. You don't have the willpower to do something that millions of people have already proven is possible??



LMAO
You're laughing when he basically just said your girlfriend isn't marriage material because she has HPV? You think it's funny that he's putting down your girlfriend and think she's not good enough to marry?

Quote from thegoalie :
I thought it was a given. The scenario was if it's a one-time thing with a smoker. Of course I'm going to use a condom if it's a one-time thing.

Sometimes I think I should start smoking just to quit and I won't have to hear this "you don't know how hard it is to quit" baloney. Millions of people have quit smoking. You don't have the willpower to do something that millions of people have already proven is possible??



LMAO
I never said quiting smoking was impossible. Please point out to me where I typed that. I said you have no idea how hard it is to quit. Unless you've been there, you can't know.
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03-30-2007 at 11:21 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:21 AM.
Quote from RugratsGalore :
You're laughing when he basically just said your girlfriend isn't marriage material because she has HPV? You think it's funny that he's putting down your girlfriend and think she's not good enough to marry?
I think you're well aware that the reason for the laugh out loud smiley is that you pointed out how judgemental I am while in the same breath calling another member a "farking asshole".


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I never said quiting smoking was impossible. Please point out to me where I typed that. I said you have no idea how hard it is to quit. Unless you've been there, you can't know.
Okay, so now you're saying that quitting smoking is possible. Great. Then either you don't have the willpower to do it, or you don't care about your health enough to do it. Whether or not I've ever experienced a nicotine addiction doesn't change that.
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Jhaan
03-30-2007 at 11:28 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:28 AM.
Quote from Jhaan :
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but OP, why don't you marry your current GF? It sounds like you're trying to make plans for all the other women you plan on sleeping with.
Any response OP?
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ToddziLLa
03-30-2007 at 11:32 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:32 AM.
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Who wants to marry a chick with HPV?
I LOLed.



Man Josh, you really opened up a can of worms bro.
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03-30-2007 at 11:32 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:32 AM.
Quote from Jhaan :
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but OP, why don't you marry your current GF? It sounds like you're trying to make plans for all the other women you plan on sleeping with.
I care about my girlfriend very much, but at this point in my life I'm not comfortable getting married, or am I planning to get married anytime soon.

I don't know what's going to happen in the future, but it's possible that someday I'll find myself single and dating other people. That's what this thread is about.
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ToddziLLa
03-30-2007 at 11:33 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:33 AM.
How's the house coming along btw? And the car?

My boys are in your neck of the woods this weekend for the game!!!
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03-30-2007 at 11:33 AM.
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I LOLed.



Man Josh, you really opened up a can of worms bro.
No kidding. Congrats on the Final Four appearance!!
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03-30-2007 at 11:37 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:37 AM.
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No kidding. Congrats on the Final Four appearance!!
Is the town hopping yet? I know it was here and we just hosted the first two rounds!

You should email me a pic of your gf or of you two together. I'm curious to see what she looks like! Knowing you she's probably at least a 9/10. nod
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03-30-2007 at 11:39 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:39 AM.
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How's the house coming along btw? And the car?

My boys are in your neck of the woods this weekend for the game!!!
Awesome and awesome.

Here's a cool panorama picture I took of the house the other day:



I'm glad the weather is warming up. I can't wait for the pollen to go away so I can ride my car around with the stereo blaring and the windows down!

I gave the car keys to the general manager at work today so he could take her for a spin, and he repored that he managed to cruise alongside a Ferrari down the highway! I'm so jealous Sadwalk
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03-30-2007 at 11:40 AM.
03-30-2007 at 11:40 AM.
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I care about my girlfriend very much, but at this point in my life I'm not comfortable getting married, or am I planning to get married anytime soon.

I don't know what's going to happen in the future, but it's possible that someday I'll find myself single and dating other people. That's what this thread is about.
Fair answer. Thanks!
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