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The Llama
09-13-2012 at 11:53 AM.
09-13-2012 at 11:53 AM.
And now I gotta go. But I leave you with this:
If you don't doubt this, you're not human. [humanistsofutah.org]
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vviles
09-13-2012 at 11:54 AM.
09-13-2012 at 11:54 AM.
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You know it!

laugh out loud what should I call it? Nesmilk?

drool
Nes Milk! Boom, Nessy's Rich! Greedy
white oil!

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Sorry. I've been monopolizing his time. Comfort
awww as long as I know where he's at, debate away

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I think you're an open minded person who's willing to look at both sides. I don't think you're the kind of person Nye was talking. I think he's fed up with people who simply don't want to try to understand the world in any other light or from any other POV. I don't think his speech was very eloquint...he's spoken much better at other times.

I think he just wants people to make sure their kids are thinking and not just blindly accepting a simple explanation for what happens. There's been a big movement toward blind following and believing in religions recently and thinking's kinda been put on a back burner. It's a common cycle...

But I'm pretty sure you encourage your children to look at things from as many POVs as possible and to think and question things. If when they got older and decided to figure something out on their own I'm sure you would support them even if it wasn't the way you saw things, because you want them to learn for themselves...

I think that was the message he was trying to get across...he just didn't do it well...
did he say this stuff on his show?
Crazy
way to isolate viewers, science guy Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

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8 & 6 years old.
thats pretty young to let dad go live in the shelter
is he on dope?

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And now I gotta go. But I leave you with this:
If you don't doubt this, you're not human. [humanistsofutah.org]
Sadbye
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vviles
09-13-2012 at 11:59 AM.
09-13-2012 at 11:59 AM.
Quote from The Llama :
And now I gotta go. But I leave you with this:
If you don't doubt this, you're not human. [humanistsofutah.org]
and llama
that was Roll
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nessykins
09-13-2012 at 12:04 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:04 PM.
I made an appointment with an Endocronologist to see WTF is wrong with me. Hair is falling out like crazy and my scalp is flaking. My body is out of wack!
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09-13-2012 at 12:05 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:05 PM.
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BQ......always the voice of reason of understanding. hug

And she's hot, too! woot
Teehee...now you're gonna make me Blush

I just remember watch the video Nye put out and thinking..."I get what you're saying and I want to agree with you, but you're saying it very badly and will probably do more harm than good."

He's one of my heros and it's hard to disagree with the way he does things, but I really feel he didn't do this one well. But the underlying point makes complete sense to me.

I really like how you said
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I still sin. I still get drunk. I still see more bewbies than I should. That doesn't mean I don't believe it. It just means I'm a hypocrite who is too weak to follow as closely as I should.
It makes me feel that you don't begrudge people for being human. My biggest problem with religeon is the judgement and the punishments involved. No one does everything perfectly and people hating others just because they have different lifestyles and choices just causes more conflict. It sucks when someone tries to force who they are and what they believe on you. But you've accepted you're not perfect and only focus on making yourself and your family better instead of trying to make everyone out to what you think is better.

I wish people tried to understand each other better instead of always saying I'm right, you're wrong.

It's not a religeon, but I've always lived by the golden rule, to treat others as I would want to be treated (no matter how they treat me). I try to think how I would feel in their situation and try to be accepting and understanding and helpful and I hope by doing my part others will try to follow that. You don't have to change your soul beliefs, you just have to try to accept that others feel differently.
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chevvy
09-13-2012 at 12:05 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:05 PM.
Quote from The Llama :
And now I gotta go. But I leave you with this:
If you don't doubt this, you're not human. [humanistsofutah.org]

Facepalm The letter writer seems just as extreme as Dr. Laura. A sin is a sin and God's responsibility to sort out. Once I get the first 10 commandments down....maybe I'll try some of the easier ones in Leviticus, but that's a long way off.
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beanqueen
09-13-2012 at 12:08 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:08 PM.
Quote from wiles :
did he say this stuff on his show?
Crazy
way to isolate viewers, science guy Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
No it was an internet interview or something like that...I think this is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU
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nessykins
09-13-2012 at 12:10 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:10 PM.
Is Billy Nye dead?
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chevvy
09-13-2012 at 12:11 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:11 PM.
Quote from beanqueen :
Teehee...now you're gonna make me Blush

I just remember watch the video Nye put out and thinking..."I get what you're saying and I want to agree with you, but you're saying it very badly and will probably do more harm than good."

He's one of my heros and it's hard to disagree with the way he does things, but I really feel he didn't do this one well. But the underlying point makes complete sense to me.

I really like how you said

It makes me feel that you don't begrudge people for being human. My biggest problem with religeon is the judgement and the punishments involved. No one does everything perfectly and people hating others just because they have different lifestyles and choices just causes more conflict. It sucks when someone tries to force who they are and what they believe on you. But you've accepted you're not perfect and only focus on making yourself and your family better instead of trying to make everyone out to what you think is better.

I wish people tried to understand each other better instead of always saying I'm right, you're wrong.

It's not a religeon, but I've always lived by the golden rule, to treat others as I would want to be treated (no matter how they treat me). I try to think how I would feel in their situation and try to be accepting and understanding and helpful and I hope by doing my part others will try to follow that. You don't have to change your soul beliefs, you just have to try to accept that others feel differently.
Jesus said the greatest commandment was to love God with all your heart soul and mind. I can't do that if I'm hating someone else; that's what makes election season so difficult for me. laugh out loud The second commandment is to love your neighbor as yourself. Nowhere does it say it's my responsibility to judge others. I can debate opinions and facts and whatever else, but nowhere am I to admonish someone.

But yeah.....the golden rule came from the bible.

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So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them. Matthew 7:12
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Frogstar
09-13-2012 at 12:16 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:16 PM.
I think it's also a disservice to teach children that they're automatically guilty of something that their ancestors did thousands and thousands of years ago.



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09-13-2012 at 12:19 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:19 PM.
Quote from Frogstar :
I think it's also a disservice to teach children that they're automatically guilty of something that their ancestors did thousands and thousands of years ago.



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Maybe, but you have 4 legs and can't keep from bumping your ass when you hop so your argument is invalid.
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09-13-2012 at 12:21 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:21 PM.
Quote from chewspam :
Jesus said the greatest commandment was to love God with all your heart soul and mind. I can't do that if I'm hating someone else; that's what makes election season so difficult for me. laugh out loud The second commandment is to love your neighbor as yourself. Nowhere does it say it's my responsibility to judge others. I can debate opinions and facts and whatever else, but nowhere am I to admonish someone.

But yeah.....the golden rule came from the bible.
You sure about that? [wikimedia.org]
Looks like there may have been some prior art to me.

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Maybe, but you have 4 legs and can't keep from bumping your ass when you hop so your argument is invalid.
I blame your honkey-ass deity for not giving me wings!
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09-13-2012 at 12:24 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:24 PM.
Quote from Frogstar :
You sure about that? [wikimedia.org]
Looks like there may have been some prior art to me.


I blame your honkey-ass deity for not giving me wings!
Well it did for me. Maybe if I were born in China I would have said differently, but I wasn't.

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I blame your honkey-ass deity for not giving me wings!
Maybe you should have been born in a next instead of in my pool.
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09-13-2012 at 12:28 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:28 PM.
It's boring today...
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09-13-2012 at 12:29 PM.
09-13-2012 at 12:29 PM.
Quote from chewspam :
Well it did for me. Maybe if I were born in China I would have said differently, but I wasn't.
You'd be too busy putting together the new Apple phone for fat American capitalist pigs Whee
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Maybe you should have been born in a next instead of in my pool.
Born in a what-now?

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It's boring today...
I refer you to Gandhi.
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