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Smoking Ban and Termination

214 84 September 17, 2012 at 05:19 PM in Chat
In Illinois we have had a smoking ban for over 4 years which is long enough for everyone to have heard of in our state. I servie copy machines and do network maintenance and am being forced to go into an accounting firm in Central IL that feels that the smoking ban does not apply to them. The building smells, there is heavy smoke in the air, and the owner is kind of like a dragon. She doesn't even have a cigarette in her hand but she still will have smoke pouring out of her mouth after speaking 2 complete sentences.

Can I be fired for reporting them to the authorities and for letting them know that the reason I am unable to give them good service is due to the fact that I feel ill and get a migraine while in the office and cannot perform under the current circumstances?

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09-17-2012 at 06:58 PM.
09-17-2012 at 06:58 PM.
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09-18-2012 at 06:10 AM.
09-18-2012 at 06:10 AM.
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In Illinois we have had a smoking ban for over 4 years which is long enough for everyone to have heard of in our state. I servie copy machines and do network maintenance and am being forced to go into an accounting firm in Central IL that feels that the smoking ban does not apply to them. The building smells, there is heavy smoke in the air, and the owner is kind of like a dragon. She doesn't even have a cigarette in her hand but she still will have smoke pouring out of her mouth after speaking 2 complete sentences.

Can I be fired for reporting them to the authorities and for letting them know that the reason I am unable to give them good service is due to the fact that I feel ill and get a migraine while in the office and cannot perform under the current circumstances?
QPLR....and

Smoking is a disgusting habit, but guess what: it's not your right to say which habits people can have around you and which people can't. We have a right to choose. If you don't like that these people smoke, tell your boss. Maybe your boss doesn't like having people who bitch and moan as an employee. And really, it's over-dramatic people like yourself who get these stupid laws that force security over freedom passed. I would be interested to see a dragon woman who can spew smoke on a whim without even having a cigarette. Perhaps there is cancer on the door handles that they give to everyone who enters.

Quit your bitching and get to work. Not every day of work is meant to be neverland.
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09-18-2012 at 06:37 AM.
09-18-2012 at 06:37 AM.
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QPLR....and

Smoking is a disgusting habit, but guess what: it's not your right to say which habits people can have around you and which people can't. We have a right to choose. If you don't like that these people smoke, tell your boss. Maybe your boss doesn't like having people who bitch and moan as an employee. And really, it's over-dramatic people like yourself who get these stupid laws that force security over freedom passed. I would be interested to see a dragon woman who can spew smoke on a whim without even having a cigarette. Perhaps there is cancer on the door handles that they give to everyone who enters.

Quit your bitching and get to work. Not every day of work is meant to be neverland.
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09-18-2012 at 06:38 AM.
09-18-2012 at 06:38 AM.
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You will never know! Annoyed

Whining like that really pisses me off. The OP wants to go in to a private company that is paying him to be there and then tell them how they should conduct their business and their lives.
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09-18-2012 at 06:48 AM.
09-18-2012 at 06:48 AM.
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You will never know! Annoyed

Whining like that really pisses me off. The OP wants to go in to a private company that is paying him to be there and then tell them how they should conduct their business and their lives.
You don't think companies should have to follow laws that you don't like?
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09-18-2012 at 06:49 AM.
09-18-2012 at 06:49 AM.
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You don't think companies should have to follow laws that you don't like?

Not the unconstitutional ones.
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09-18-2012 at 07:00 AM.
09-18-2012 at 07:00 AM.
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Not the unconstitutional ones.
I guess I missed the case where this was found unconstitutional. I'm surprised it hasn't made the news yet.
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09-18-2012 at 07:06 AM.
09-18-2012 at 07:06 AM.
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I guess I missed the case where this was found unconstitutional. I'm surprised it hasn't made the news yet.
Roll The news??? And many laws are found constitutional that are not. The problem is that they are laws on the books so as subjects we are required to adhere to them. If you were a farmer with 10 acres of land and you sold the food produced by 9 acres of your land and used the other 1 acre to feed your family, is it constitutional for the gov't to tell you that you must put the food from that 1 acre on to the open market to sell instead of using it to feed your family?

I'm just asking to make the case that there are plenty of laws on the books that are unconstitutional but have been found constitutional by the supreme court.
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09-18-2012 at 07:08 AM.
09-18-2012 at 07:08 AM.
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QPLR....and

Smoking is a disgusting habit, but guess what: it's not your right to say which habits people can have around you and which people can't. We have a right to choose. If you don't like that these people smoke, tell your boss. Maybe your boss doesn't like having people who bitch and moan as an employee. And really, it's over-dramatic people like yourself who get these stupid laws that force security over freedom passed. I would be interested to see a dragon woman who can spew smoke on a whim without even having a cigarette. Perhaps there is cancer on the door handles that they give to everyone who enters.

Quit your bitching and get to work. Not every day of work is meant to be neverland.
Sorry but this is wrong! It's not just that he doesn't like smoking or the smell of smoke. It's a proven fact that smoking causes cancer. The State of Illinois has taken a stance that workers should not have to tolerate such conditions. Although it may sound severe, the OP risks losing his life to cancer in the worst possible scenario. I would report it to OSHA or whoever else so that the company doesn't allow smoking indoors again. It will take drastic measures to change such a habit, but we are in the time of transition, and the sooner this company learns, the better!
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09-18-2012 at 07:10 AM.
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Sorry but this is wrong! It's not just that he doesn't like smoking or the smell of smoke. It's a proven fact that smoking causes cancer. The State of Illinois has taken a stance that workers should not have to tolerate such conditions. Although it may sound severe, the OP risks losing his life to cancer in the worst possible scenario. I would report it to OSHA or whoever else so that the company doesn't allow smoking indoors again. It will take drastic measures to change such a habit, but we are in the time of transition, and the sooner this company learns, the better!

It's a proven fact that life causes death. Sorry, but if someone wants to choose to die by smoking that's their choice. If a worker of that company objects, then the company should be prosecuted if they don't change their ways. Until then....let them be. I'm not arguing with what you said about cancer and smoking, I'm just saying that I value freedom over security.
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09-18-2012 at 07:11 AM.
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It's a proven fact that life causes death. Sorry, but if someone wants to choose to die by smoking that's their choice. If a worker of that company objects, then the company should be prosecuted if they don't change their ways. Until then....let them be. I'm not arguing with what you said about cancer and smoking, I'm just saying that I value freedom over security.
So second hand smoke doesn't cause cancer in others? How is that "their choice"? Scratchchin
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09-18-2012 at 07:13 AM.
09-18-2012 at 07:13 AM.
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In Illinois we have had a smoking ban for over 4 years which is long enough for everyone to have heard of in our state. I servie copy machines and do network maintenance and am being forced to go into an accounting firm in Central IL that feels that the smoking ban does not apply to them. The building smells, there is heavy smoke in the air, and the owner is kind of like a dragon. She doesn't even have a cigarette in her hand but she still will have smoke pouring out of her mouth after speaking 2 complete sentences.

Can I be fired for reporting them to the authorities and for letting them know that the reason I am unable to give them good service is due to the fact that I feel ill and get a migraine while in the office and cannot perform under the current circumstances?
Bottom line is you can be fired for wearing underwear

Even if you are fired for a protected reason, you still loose your job even if you win the court case which will take years

Tell your boss that you feel sick working on site there and let him know that you don't feel you will be able to continue working at that location but you will happily work at other sites

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It's a proven fact that life causes death. Sorry, but if someone wants to choose to die by smoking that's their choice. If a worker of that company objects, then the company should be prosecuted if they don't change their ways. Until then....let them be. I'm not arguing with what you said about cancer and smoking, I'm just saying that I value freedom over security.
Op is a worker at that company. He may get paid by someone else but his job site is there when he is fixing their stiff
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09-18-2012 at 07:16 AM.
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So second hand smoke doesn't cause cancer in others? How is that "their choice"? Scratchchin
An interesting take [straightdope.com] on the issue.
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09-18-2012 at 07:18 AM.
09-18-2012 at 07:18 AM.
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Bottom line is you can be fired for wearing underwear

Even if you are fired for a protected reason, you still loose your job even if you win the court case which will take years

Tell your boss that you feel sick working on site there and let him know that you don't feel you will be able to continue working at that location but you will happily work at other sites
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Op is a worker at that company. He may get paid by someone else but his job site is there when he is fixing their stiff
But are they paying him or the company he works for? Who is providing his health insurance while he is there?

I know I'm on the wrong side of this issue because the majority of people want security over freedom, but the OP doesn't work directly for that company. He has options and isn't forced to work on that site. I'll take the freedom to secure myself any day.
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09-18-2012 at 07:18 AM.
09-18-2012 at 07:18 AM.
Its fine to be allowed to do your own thing with out the government being involved in the privacy of your own home and when you are not farking imposing that disgusting habit on everyone around you.
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