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Tire mounting

39,439 5,562 September 24, 2012 at 09:05 AM in Autos
I got in on the DTD deal a couple weeks ago as my car will need new tires by the winter. So now I have 4 tires sitting in my garage waiting to be installed.

I'm looking for a place to mount/balance them and to my surprise, a couple shops have refused. Their excuse is "if we tear it, then we owe you a new tire" .... Uh OK. I understand that some shops could refuse on principle (e.g. they want you to buy the tires from them for profit), but work is work - if it takes a tech 1 hour to mount and balance 4 tires and you pay him $20 and charge $100 - that's $80 in your pocket. I'm also looking for a 4 wheel alignment, which is pure profit. I can understand perhaps turning down this business when your shop is packed (better to sell tires at a profit, too), but why do it when you're not busy?

Has anyone seen this excuse before?

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Piccaboo
09-26-2012 at 02:49 PM.
09-26-2012 at 02:49 PM.
Quote from Deusxmachina :
To clarify, I meant OEM dealer parts. People may not realize various OEM parts are just a different part with the OEM/car maker label on it.

Like,
"I paid $40 extra to get an OEM serpentine belt so I know it's good."
"That's great, but that belt is just a Gates belt with an OEM sticker on it."

Would you like to join Moot and myself; we carry weapons of mass destruction
when we go out with our Shopping Carts Cool

You're pretty cool, and I think you would add a delicious element to our adventures.
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Moot-N-Me
09-26-2012 at 02:54 PM.
09-26-2012 at 02:54 PM.
Quote from Deusxmachina :
To clarify, I meant OEM dealer parts. People may not realize various OEM parts are just a different part with the OEM/car maker label on it.

Like,
"I paid $40 extra to get an OEM serpentine belt so I know it's good."
"That's great, but that belt is just a Gates belt with an OEM sticker on it."
Quote from Piccaboo :
Would you like to join Moot and myself; we carry weapons of mass destruction
when we go out with our Shopping Carts Cool

You're pretty cool, and I think you would add a delicious element to our adventures.
I was just going to ask him if he wanted to meet up in a parking lot with us.

All of our shit is OEM when we get down to business, you know what I mean Deusx?
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Deusxmachina
09-26-2012 at 07:30 PM.
09-26-2012 at 07:30 PM.
Quote from Piccaboo :
Would you like to join Moot and myself; we carry weapons of mass destruction
when we go out with our Shopping Carts Cool

You're pretty cool, and I think you would add a delicious element to our adventures.
Quote from Moot-N-Me :
I was just going to ask him if he wanted to meet up in a parking lot with us.
All of our shit is OEM when we get down to business, you know what I mean Deusx?
I don't know what's going on, and, quite frankly, I'm a little scared. Unsure
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munboy
09-26-2012 at 07:38 PM.
09-26-2012 at 07:38 PM.
Quote from Dr. J :
I got in on the DTD deal a couple weeks ago as my car will need new tires by the winter. So now I have 4 tires sitting in my garage waiting to be installed.

I'm looking for a place to mount/balance them and to my surprise, a couple shops have refused. Their excuse is "if we tear it, then we owe you a new tire" .... Uh OK. I understand that some shops could refuse on principle (e.g. they want you to buy the tires from them for profit), but work is work - if it takes a tech 1 hour to mount and balance 4 tires and you pay him $20 and charge $100 - that's $80 in your pocket. I'm also looking for a 4 wheel alignment, which is pure profit. I can understand perhaps turning down this business when your shop is packed (better to sell tires at a profit, too), but why do it when you're not busy?

Has anyone seen this excuse before?

Without reading the thread, Walmart is your answer. $48 to mount/balance/valve stem 4 tires without TPMS, another $30 for the sensors to be reset.
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Moot-N-Me
09-26-2012 at 07:39 PM.
09-26-2012 at 07:39 PM.
Quote from Deusxmachina :
I don't know what's going on, and, quite frankly, I'm a little scared. Unsure
No reason to be scared. We understand each other - you don't know what's going on. Perfect. Never stray from that story and you, Picca, and I will get along just fine. Cool
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Piccaboo
09-26-2012 at 07:39 PM.
09-26-2012 at 07:39 PM.
Quote from Deusxmachina :
I don't know what's going on, and, quite frankly, I'm a little scared. Unsure

Deusx, you are a hunka, hunka burning machinery, that needs to be with us or against us, when we go on our adventures. With your strength and our cunning wiles and imagination, think of the possibilities bulb
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Piccaboo
09-26-2012 at 07:41 PM.
09-26-2012 at 07:41 PM.
Quote from Moot-N-Me :
No reason to be scared. We understand each other - you don't know what's going on. Perfect. Never stray from that story and you, Picca, and I will get along just fine. Cool
Okay, we do it your way this time, Moot Cool
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Moot-N-Me
09-26-2012 at 07:52 PM.
09-26-2012 at 07:52 PM.
Quote from Piccaboo :
Okay, we do it your way this time, Moot Cool
Just want to make sure we're dealing with a stand up guy. Although I get the feelin he'll be a friend of ours. look around
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Moot-N-Me
09-26-2012 at 07:54 PM.
09-26-2012 at 07:54 PM.
Quote from Piccaboo :
Deusx, you are a hunka, hunka burning machinery, that needs to be with us or against us, when we go on our adventures. With your strength and our cunning wiles and imagination, think of the possibilities bulb
Iagree He is packin some serious heat.
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atc250r
10-01-2012 at 08:37 AM.
10-01-2012 at 08:37 AM.
Would you bring your own steak to a restaurant and ask the chef to cook it? Same difference IMHO. Smilie

As someone that was an auto tech for many years, that price from WalMart is hard to beat. The street corner tire shops here in the hood get $40 to do the job so $43 is damn good. One thing to check is that they don't slam down the lugs so hard with the air gun that you can't get the lugs loose. I make it standard practice if anyone takes the wheels off besides me to give all the lugs a once over. Nothing worse than sitting on the side of the road with a flat and not being able to get the wheel off.
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shhaggy
10-01-2012 at 08:57 AM.
10-01-2012 at 08:57 AM.
Quote from atc250r :
Would you bring your own steak to a restaurant and ask the chef to cook it? Same difference IMHO. Smilie

As someone that was an auto tech for many years, that price from WalMart is hard to beat. The street corner tire shops here in the hood get $40 to do the job so $43 is damn good. One thing to check is that they don't slam down the lugs so hard with the air gun that you can't get the lugs loose. I make it standard practice if anyone takes the wheels off besides me to give all the lugs a once over. Nothing worse than sitting on the side of the road with a flat and not being able to get the wheel off.
People do bring their own wine to restaurants and ask them to serve it, and they are charged a corking fee for it. Same difference.

They should charge you a premium to do it if they want, exactly what they would make on their own tires.

I hate when they use the air wrench on the keyed lug. No matter how tight the regular ones are, a decent lug wrench should get it off. At best you'll need to use your foot. But I've broken the key for the keyed lug before because some ass used the air wrench on it. That one is not supposed to be tightened that much, the key won't hold up to the rigor, even if you HAVE an air wrench to put it on. I needed a tow after breaking that key.
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10-01-2012 at 09:17 AM.
10-01-2012 at 09:17 AM.
Quote from shhaggy :
People do bring their own wine to restaurants and ask them to serve it, and they are charged a corking fee for it. Same difference.

They should charge you a premium to do it if they want, exactly what they would make on their own tires.
I thought about bringing that up laugh out loud
Steak is different, because you're also paying for the chef's experience in selecting a good piece of meat. The mechanic isn't going to sort through a case of alternators and grab you the best one. You're going to get the same alternator you can buy yourself.
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atc250r
10-01-2012 at 10:24 AM.
10-01-2012 at 10:24 AM.
Yes but when the alternator you brought in yourself craps out after two weeks right or wrong your not gonna want to pay the mechanic to do it again. If its a part the shop provided then they will stand behind it. If the steak you brought to the chef to cook is tough he isn't gonna want to hear you complaining about it. Opening a bottle of wine has little if anything to do with how it tastes when served, the guy opening the bottle is not a trained professional.
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Piccaboo
10-01-2012 at 10:48 AM.
10-01-2012 at 10:48 AM.
Quote from shhaggy :
People do bring their own wine to restaurants and ask them to serve it, and they are charged a corking fee for it. Same difference.

They should charge you a premium to do it if they want, exactly what they would make on their own tires.

I hate when they use the air wrench on the keyed lug. No matter how tight the regular ones are, a decent lug wrench should get it off. At best you'll need to use your foot. But I've broken the key for the keyed lug before because some ass used the air wrench on it. That one is not supposed to be tightened that much, the key won't hold up to the rigor, even if you HAVE an air wrench to put it on. I needed a tow after breaking that key.
Air Wrenches are standard in the business; if you are unhappy about your lugs being put on with an air wrench; put them on yourself, might I suggest Wink No Tech is going to take the time to put them on with a lug wrench Nono2 If you have a keyed "lug" might I suggest that you make darn sure on the paperwork when taking your vehicle in that you want that particular "lug" to be hand tightened; but it will not be the responsibility of the Shop, should it come loose on "you" , as an air wrench guarantees them that they are on "tight". Nothing worse than a tire coming off, because an lug or two , or three came off a vehicle. Their job is to ensure that the lugs are tight and ensure that the tires will not come of the vehicle as a result of the lugs not being tight enough.
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10-01-2012 at 10:57 AM.
10-01-2012 at 10:57 AM.
Quote from shhaggy :
People do bring their own wine to restaurants and ask them to serve it, and they are charged a corking fee for it. Same difference.

They should charge you a premium to do it if they want, exactly what they would make on their own tires.

I hate when they use the air wrench on the keyed lug. No matter how tight the regular ones are, a decent lug wrench should get it off. At best you'll need to use your foot. But I've broken the key for the keyed lug before because some ass used the air wrench on it. That one is not supposed to be tightened that much, the key won't hold up to the rigor, even if you HAVE an air wrench to put it on. I needed a tow after breaking that key.
Id really suggest putting on a crappy set of lug nuts before service if you have a keyed lug most repair shops arent very careful putting on tires.
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