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In a business setting, upon encountering women with aggressive cleavage, where is the proper place to fix one's gaze in order to maintain a professional demeanor?

26,668 2,340 September 26, 2012 at 05:34 PM in Help
Further: how does a person accomplish such a thing without being obvious about the avoidance?

In my new position I'm regularly sent into the offices of high-profile clients. We're talking about lobbying firms with partners who rub elbows with Congressmen; communications firms that brief Obama's cabinet and captains of industry on how to behave on camera; lawyers who spend a lot of time at the Supreme Court... you get the idea.

A shocking percentage of these offices are very old-fashioned about how the partners are coddled and cared-for: they basically have a bevy of young, attractive assistants who do everything from reading the partners their email to picking out bottles of scotch for Senator so-and-so.

I spend a lot of time with these young ladies since they are always the ones who have to figure out computer/Blackberry/printer/television/motorized tie rack problems for the partners. Every last one of them dresses provocatively. I don't think they're doing it entirely on purpose (and certainly not solely for my benefit), but there is still cleavage left, right, and center all damn day long.

I feel like they can tell I'm making a conscious effort to look them in the eye when we talk. And I'm not even pretending like that's an easy thing to do. Most of the time if I can remember 5% of what they were going on about, I'm doing well. I try very hard to get them to show me what they were doing on the computer/iPhone/copier/toaster oven so I can at least pretend to focus on the problem. The worst is when they want me to look over their shoulder at Mr. Namesonthedoor's new Galaxy SIII that won't sync... right behind that is when I have to face them over a low cubicle wall or divider. Faint

In my head I'm thinking dontlookdownhershirt dontlookdownhershirt youllgetfiredsofastyourheadllspin forgodssakesdontlookdownherfarkingshirt so hard I'm sure these girls can hear it. Staring them right in the eyes doesn't help much when my--not peripheral, since it's usually more of a downward direction, what do you call that?--field of vision includes the jigglies. What the hell am I supposed to do? Dontknow

tl;dr: bewbs!

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09-26-2012 at 06:16 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:16 PM.
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I'm way older than most of you and when younger, yes I was built quite well, and this place of business only hired built young women in their office Wink Funny thing, they also questioned whether I drank "soda" or not, and I said "no" and that almost cost me getting the job there; as I'm an iced tea drinker. Beer and soda was a big part of their business, in the way of production in the plant; but I worked in the office.
I'm picturing your interview:

Hiring manager: Do you drink soda?
Picca: No!
Hiring manager: That's a real shame, doll. C'mere and put your elbows against this wall, see?

(then he pulls out a tommy gun and blasts some wise guys to smithereens)
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09-26-2012 at 06:19 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:19 PM.
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I'm picturing your interview:

Hiring manager: Do you drink soda?
Picca: No!
Hiring manager: That's a real shame, doll. C'mere and put your elbows against this wall, see?

(then he pulls out a tommy gun and blasts some wise guys to smithereens)
Damn well might have come to that Rofl2
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09-26-2012 at 06:20 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:20 PM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
I'm picturing your interview:

Hiring manager: Do you drink soda?
Picca: No!
Hiring manager: That's a real shame, doll. C'mere and put your elbows against this wall, see?

(then he pulls out a tommy gun and blasts some wise guys to smithereens)
Funny. I'm picturing her wearing an sd beanie and...
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09-26-2012 at 06:24 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:24 PM.
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Funny. I'm picturing her wearing an sd beanie and...

Me a beanie back then - phish!!!!

Since HS my Senior year - I only wore dresses and high heels - I was on my way to a career job and I new how to climb the proverbial "ladder" Wink
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09-26-2012 at 06:26 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:26 PM.
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Me a beanie back then - phish!!!!

Since HS my Senior year - I only wore dresses and high heels - I was on my way to a career job and I new how to climb the proverbial "ladder" Wink
Climbing a ladder in high heels sounds dangerous. Is this more job interview testing?

1. Soda, check.
2. Elbows, check.
3. Ladder in heels & miniskirt, check.

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09-26-2012 at 06:27 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:27 PM.
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Funny. I'm picturing her wearing an sd beanie and...
No silly, that's Serra!






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09-26-2012 at 06:30 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:30 PM.
Wait. Is a beanie a hat with a propeller, or am I thinking of something else? A dental appliance?
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09-26-2012 at 06:30 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:30 PM.
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Climbing a ladder in high heels sounds dangerous. Is this more job interview testing?

1. Soda, check.
2. Elbows, check.
3. Ladder in heels & miniskirt, check.

bulb OOOOHHHHHH
Actually, during inventory in the warehouse where all personnel were involved; yes, ladders were involved; but heels were forbidden on those days; flats only or sneakers laugh out loud Mini-skirts A-Okay for the perverts LMAO
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09-26-2012 at 06:31 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:31 PM.
Mr. VQ, here are those figures you requested...

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09-26-2012 at 06:32 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:32 PM.
Quote from Piccaboo :
Me a beanie back then - phish!!!!

Since HS my Senior year - I only wore dresses and high heels - I was on my way to a career job and I new how to climb the proverbial "ladder" Wink
Back then? Huh

Did they have McDonalds Angus, bacon and cheese back then? Did they have Spider-Man shirts back then?
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09-26-2012 at 06:32 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:32 PM.
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Wait. Is a beanie a hat with a propeller, or am I thinking of something else? A dental appliance?

A) I have an SD Beanie
B) I have several propellers for our boat
C) I have Invaslign Braces on my teeth at this time

So you are correct on all three - Jack Pot !!!!
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09-26-2012 at 06:33 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:33 PM.
TIL Picca used to work in a sex circus, and VF wants me to get a lot of paper cuts.
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09-26-2012 at 06:34 PM.
09-26-2012 at 06:34 PM.
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Back then? Huh

Did they have McDonalds Angus, bacon and cheese back then? Did they have Spider-Man shirts back then?
Yes, we had Spider Man Comics back then, and we had a Jack-In-The-Box - but no longer have a Jack-In-The-Box - and I miss it Sadwalk We had McD's back then, but no Angus Bacon Cheeseburger, nor breakfast either Frown That's also when the movie "Deep Throat" came out, and I went to see it with a bunch of girls from work Blush

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TIL Picca used to work in a sex circus, and VF wants me to get a lot of paper cuts.

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Mr. VQ, here are those figures you requested...


You are really hitting it hard now Cool
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09-26-2012 at 06:39 PM.
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Then sometimes we'd have to walk a tightrope in a bathrobe, and the senior manager would hurl scoops of vanilla ice cream at us while we alphabetized the hula hoops. Whoever finished first got an extra helping of cotton candy and didn't have to help muck out the elephant stalls. I wore a yellow onion on my belt, which was the style at the time, and you could by six yards of muslin for a quarter. Those were simpler times!
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