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In a business setting, upon encountering women with aggressive cleavage, where is the proper place to fix one's gaze in order to maintain a professional demeanor?
September 26, 2012 at
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Further: how does a person accomplish such a thing without being obvious about the avoidance?
In my new position I'm regularly sent into the offices of high-profile clients. We're talking about lobbying firms with partners who rub elbows with Congressmen; communications firms that brief Obama's cabinet and captains of industry on how to behave on camera; lawyers who spend a lot of time at the Supreme Court... you get the idea.
A shocking percentage of these offices are very old-fashioned about how the partners are coddled and cared-for: they basically have a bevy of young, attractive assistants who do everything from reading the partners their email to picking out bottles of scotch for Senator so-and-so.
I spend a lot of time with these young ladies since they are always the ones who have to figure out computer/Blackberry/printer/television/motorized tie rack problems for the partners. Every last one of them dresses provocatively. I don't think they're doing it entirely on purpose (and certainly not solely for my benefit), but there is still cleavage left, right, and center all damn day long.
I feel like they can tell I'm making a conscious effort to look them in the eye when we talk. And I'm not even pretending like that's an easy thing to do. Most of the time if I can remember 5% of what they were going on about, I'm doing well. I try very hard to get them to show me what they were doing on the computer/iPhone/copier/toaster oven so I can at least pretend to focus on the problem. The worst is when they want me to look over their shoulder at Mr. Namesonthedoor's new Galaxy SIII that won't sync... right behind that is when I have to face them over a low cubicle wall or divider.
In my head I'm thinking dontlookdownhershirt dontlookdownhershirt youllgetfiredsofastyourheadllspin forgodssakesdontlookdownherfarkingshirt so hard I'm sure these girls can hear it. Staring them right in the eyes doesn't help much when my--not peripheral, since it's usually more of a downward direction, what do you call that?--field of vision includes the jigglies. What the hell am I supposed to do?
tl;dr: bewbs!
In my new position I'm regularly sent into the offices of high-profile clients. We're talking about lobbying firms with partners who rub elbows with Congressmen; communications firms that brief Obama's cabinet and captains of industry on how to behave on camera; lawyers who spend a lot of time at the Supreme Court... you get the idea.
A shocking percentage of these offices are very old-fashioned about how the partners are coddled and cared-for: they basically have a bevy of young, attractive assistants who do everything from reading the partners their email to picking out bottles of scotch for Senator so-and-so.
I spend a lot of time with these young ladies since they are always the ones who have to figure out computer/Blackberry/printer/television/motorized tie rack problems for the partners. Every last one of them dresses provocatively. I don't think they're doing it entirely on purpose (and certainly not solely for my benefit), but there is still cleavage left, right, and center all damn day long.
I feel like they can tell I'm making a conscious effort to look them in the eye when we talk. And I'm not even pretending like that's an easy thing to do. Most of the time if I can remember 5% of what they were going on about, I'm doing well. I try very hard to get them to show me what they were doing on the computer/iPhone/copier/toaster oven so I can at least pretend to focus on the problem. The worst is when they want me to look over their shoulder at Mr. Namesonthedoor's new Galaxy SIII that won't sync... right behind that is when I have to face them over a low cubicle wall or divider.
In my head I'm thinking dontlookdownhershirt dontlookdownhershirt youllgetfiredsofastyourheadllspin forgodssakesdontlookdownherfarkingshirt so hard I'm sure these girls can hear it. Staring them right in the eyes doesn't help much when my--not peripheral, since it's usually more of a downward direction, what do you call that?--field of vision includes the jigglies. What the hell am I supposed to do?
tl;dr: bewbs!
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Several minutes after the meeting, a co-worker sat down in my office and said something like "So I hear you had a meeting with a hottie!"
I hadn't really noticed. Her boss and I chatted a good part of the meeting since he (the boss) is going on a cruise, so we were talking about cruises. Thinking back, she was pretty cute.
I'm (getting) old.
The answer is, "Stare at 'em and enjoy, that's what they are there for!"
The answer is, "Stare at 'em and enjoy, that's what they are there for!"
Look at it this way. There is a reason they are on display, and it is not to get you fired.
I guess I need to move.
Go South young man, all the Fireman I met at the Stations where my son works
VQ ... your office hiring?
Quoted for Rammy's wife to see
Quoted for Rammy's wife to see
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There was this one client who was in her mid-late 40s and she had her boys squez up to her chin on my day to visit. My wandering eye wasn't the problem, I was too worried about her passing out from being choked out. These boys had a bunch of visible miles, but I'm sure they were magnificent back in the day.
I say, if these women are consistently dressed this way, then they are accustomed to men taking in the entire presentation. Drink them in with your eyes homeboy, even let them catch you now and then. It might help your stature in the office. I wouldn't worry about it unless one of them had an obvious 'offended' reaction.
-go ahead and look (will get me fired);
-wait twenty years and your jimmy won't work & therefore you won't notice anymore (I'm not that patient);
-stare at their noses (tried this, started to laugh, had to excuse myself);
-something calistyle said but I was looking at her... nose... I think it was about gazing deep into her brain or something?
also Picca went totally OT with her BDSM giraffes and flying bikini elbow tests so we had to deal with that for a while.
And somebody said to eat at Hooters?
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-something calistyle said but I was looking at her... nose... I think it was about gazing deep into her brain or something?
also Picca went totally OT with her BDSM giraffes and flying bikini elbow tests so we had to deal with that for a while.
I never remember BDSM giraffes in this conversation at all
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