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beanqueen
06-13-2013 at 11:01 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:01 AM.
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What, like just write it down or something?

Totally.
Yes! Document the call in a journal saying when it took place, what it consisted of and that it was on her time with the kids that she decided she "couldn't handle them" and what the final decision was.

I'm not positive on what your situation is completely, but it's better to have documentation of all your interactions (good and bad) to show how you're dealing with each other and the kids, just in case something happens. If the kids tell you how they feel about something involving you two, write it down as well. Anything that happens. If she tries to take you to court for full custody and get child support when you've obviously been doing all the work, then the judge should take all of that into account.

But unless it's documented (ie time stamped) then it's just a bunch of he said/she said. It's better if you have something to refer back to. If you're lucky you'll never have to use it, but it's better just to have it in case.
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teenbean
06-13-2013 at 11:08 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:08 AM.
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beanqueen
06-13-2013 at 11:10 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:10 AM.
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Yeah, I suppose I can backtrack and get the specific dates for times she changed her mind about the schedule.
Well I would screen shot some of your stuff from the thread and put them as reasons why you realized you should probably start writing stuff down as it happened. That way people can't say you just started back tracking from memory. You can start your journal from today but have previous data to support why you're starting such a journal. You probably can't use those as good examples but they're a good start...

I know it's a bitch, but I've just read so much up on dad's getting screwed over that I'm looking out for your best interests and your kids.

You can even document what fun things you did with the kids or any disciplinary actions.

Hopefully you'll never have to use it. But just in cases!
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vviles
06-13-2013 at 11:11 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:11 AM.
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Dear Diary,

Today I start documenting all of my significant actions with the ex and the children.

Love,

Vrogstar
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Frogstar
06-13-2013 at 11:18 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:18 AM.
Quote from beanqueen :
Well I would screen shot some of your stuff from the thread and put them as reasons why you realized you should probably start writing stuff down as it happened. That way people can't say you just started back tracking from memory. You can start your journal from today but have previous data to support why you're starting such a journal. You probably can't use those as good examples but they're a good start...

I know it's a bitch, but I've just read so much up on dad's getting screwed over that I'm looking out for your best interests and your kids.

You can even document what fun things you did with the kids or any disciplinary actions.

Hopefully you'll never have to use it. But just in cases!
Eh, since it's not going to be notarized or anything, I don't see why I couldn't just write the stuff from the last few weeks down based on what I've posted here. The teenager is mature enough to be able to corroborate if it comes down to it.
There's also no way she can afford a lawyer, whereas I can.
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06-13-2013 at 11:20 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:20 AM.
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Eh, since it's not going to be notarized or anything, I don't see why I couldn't just write the stuff from the last few weeks down based on what I've posted here. The teenager is mature enough to be able to corroborate if it comes down to it.
There's also no way she can afford a lawyer, whereas I can.
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Thrifteh
06-13-2013 at 11:27 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:27 AM.
Quote from vviles :
Poor choice in wingmen leads to poor judgement elsewhere. She'll be easy and eager to please, but hard to get rid of. Tread cautiously. Even at 45 she could still be fertile. Take extreme precautions.
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:sorr y:
I seem to be fixated on Merkins today Dontknow
Yep and often times premenopausal women end up with twins.

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7AM came awful early today laugh out loud
Was tempted to just come in an hour late and get a little more shut-eye.

So noted nod
I finally fell asleep at midnight and was up at 5. Suck it up buttercup.

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Rats, my phone is only at 52%.
And no USB cable at my desk.
Shit.
:first world problems: (for her)

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Yeah I can def see that happening. Will have to control my anger a bit more though... I can't be yelling "farking camper!" LOL
You can but you shouldn't unless you want her first word to be fark.

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Showed up. They do sing.

The younger one was acting up. She told me I needed to leave the jam, pick the kid up, and take her back to my house.
:first world problems:

Honestly, what was her parenting like when you were together. Could she handle them then?

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So she can't control her own kids....

sounds just like my ex. When my ex has them on his weekend and they start getting out of control, he will call me and tell me that I need to be a better at punishing them and not let them act so wild. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
Yeah, cuz kids never run around and play and get hyped up.

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i want to plop my fat white ass down on a lounge chair at the pool and sip fruity drinks while soaking up rays
You will be able to do so when this temp job ends bulb

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At noon central. Almost time... Reaper
Your lunch hour is done...we need an update.

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Didn't realize I had them. 4 tickets on the Green Monster with meals included.
You. are. kidding. me!!!!!

Quote from Frogstar :
What, like just write it down or something?

Totally.
Yes, as simple as this. Date for sure and time if you want to get that specific about it. Do you have past communication via text? That is as easy as dumping it off your phone and throwing it into excel.

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What's to stop someone from just making one of those up out of whole cloth?
If it will be used it will be put in an affidavit and when you sign this legal court form you are taking an oath that all information is true and accurate.

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I'll be home when I'm sleeping Cloud9


anything you can document which would reflect her unreliable actions regarding co-parenting can be beneficial

Wheres Thrift? Unclesam

she prolly has a flash drive full of excel spreadsheets and pdfs of sworn statements on her person at all times *just in case*
Pretty much. Roll No not really, but I do have a notebook at home that I have documented stuff in. Nowadays I just email my attorney with all of the pertinent information. The 5 w's ya know. Well, I never know the why. laugh out loud
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06-13-2013 at 11:30 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:30 AM.
Quote from Thrifteh :
Yep and often times premenopausal women end up with twins.



I finally fell asleep at midnight and was up at 5. Suck it up buttercup.



:first world problems: (for her)



You can but you shouldn't unless you want her first word to be fark.



:first world problems:

Honestly, what was her parenting like when you were together. Could she handle them then?



Yeah, cuz kids never run around and play and get hyped up.



You will be able to do so when this temp job ends bulb



Your lunch hour is done...we need an update.



You. are. kidding. me!!!!!



Yes, as simple as this. Date for sure and time if you want to get that specific about it. Do you have past communication via text? That is as easy as dumping it off your phone and throwing it into excel.



If it will be used it will be put in an affidavit and when you sign this legal court form you are taking an oath that all information is true and accurate.



Pretty much. Roll No not really, but I do have a notebook at home that I have documented stuff in. Nowadays I just email my attorney with all of the pertinent information. The 5 w's ya know. Well, I never know the why. laugh out loud
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teenbean
06-13-2013 at 11:30 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:30 AM.
Quote from vviles :
no Reaper

Groupwave

Popcorn

Dear Diary,

Today I start documenting all of my significant actions with the ex and the children.

Love,

Vrogstar

I just let him talk and talk and talk during the meal. The easy way out would have been to tell him that I was atheist :duh: At one point he invited me to Catholic mass because it would be fun. He also told me that last week, he thanked God for Mcd's. I don't know why anyone would be thankful for that, but whatever. I just told him, it wasn't going to work out. I didn't even bother giving him a reason because he would have tried to turn my words all around.

Anyway it's done and over and I can get on with my day!
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06-13-2013 at 11:32 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:32 AM.
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I just let him talk and talk and talk during the meal. The easy way out would have been to tell him that I was atheist :duh: At one point he invited me to Catholic mass because it would be fun. He also told me that last week, he thanked God for Mcd's. I don't know why anyone would be thankful for that, but whatever. I just told him, it wasn't going to work out. I didn't even bother giving him a reason because he would have tried to turn my words all around.

Anyway it's done and over and I can get on with my day!
do you think it's the last you've heard of him? Pray
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Thrifteh
06-13-2013 at 11:32 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:32 AM.
Quote from beanqueen :
Well I would screen shot some of your stuff from the thread and put them as reasons why you realized you should probably start writing stuff down as it happened. That way people can't say you just started back tracking from memory. You can start your journal from today but have previous data to support why you're starting such a journal. You probably can't use those as good examples but they're a good start...

I know it's a bitch, but I've just read so much up on dad's getting screwed over that I'm looking out for your best interests and your kids.

You can even document what fun things you did with the kids or any disciplinary actions.

Hopefully you'll never have to use it. But just in cases!
I wouldn't focus on *fun* stuff, I would document what your typical time with them looks like. I'd be more prone to focus on the things that are giving them a stable and safe environment.

Quote from Frogstar :
Eh, since it's not going to be notarized or anything, I don't see why I couldn't just write the stuff from the last few weeks down based on what I've posted here. The teenager is mature enough to be able to corroborate if it comes down to it.
There's also no way she can afford a lawyer, whereas I can.
Yes, I did this and it was no problem whatsoever. I gave all of the information to my attorney and he put it into the affidavit.

You do realize that once you file and retain an attorney she can retain an attorney and request in the settlement that YOU pay her court costs and attorney fees. Now, her finding an attorney that will take her case without a retainer is another story, so she will probably end up with some dirt bag.
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06-13-2013 at 11:33 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:33 AM.
Quote from Thrifteh :
I wouldn't focus on *fun* stuff, I would document what your typical time with them looks like. I'd be more prone to focus on the things that are giving them a stable and safe environment.



Yes, I did this and it was no problem whatsoever. I gave all of the information to my attorney and he put it into the affidavit.

You do realize that once you file and retain an attorney she can retain an attorney and request in the settlement that YOU pay her court costs and attorney fees. Now, her finding an attorney that will take her case without a retainer is another story, so she will probably end up with some dirt bag.
I was wondering if she would be able to request costs/fees from F1 Annoyed
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teenbean
06-13-2013 at 11:39 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:39 AM.
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do you think it's the last you've heard of him? Pray
I hope so!!!
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Frogstar
06-13-2013 at 11:41 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:41 AM.
Quote from Thrifteh :
Yep and often times premenopausal women end up with twins.
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Quote from Thrifteh :
I finally fell asleep at midnight and was up at 5. Suck it up buttercup.
I was asleep by two and up by seven, so NO U Tongue
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:first world problems:

Honestly, what was her parenting like when you were together. Could she handle them then?
The older kid helped out more back then. So I guess not?
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Yes, as simple as this. Date for sure and time if you want to get that specific about it. Do you have past communication via text? That is as easy as dumping it off your phone and throwing it into excel.



If it will be used it will be put in an affidavit and when you sign this legal court form you are taking an oath that all information is true and accurate.
I don't really have any texts pertinent to this, it's mostly been via discussion.
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Thrifteh
06-13-2013 at 11:42 AM.
06-13-2013 at 11:42 AM.
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I was wondering if she would be able to request costs/fees from F1 Annoyed
Absolutely! In our temporary order my attorney put in a clause that would make him pay my court costs and attorney fees. He had written in his that I pay HIS. I will revisit this with my attorney because I am already at $3500 in fees and we haven't even drafted a permanent plan. Yeah, I am in such a better position financially since I stayed home to care for the boys from August of 2009-October 2012 and had NO income, did not have access to his checking or savings accounts in that period of time (repeatedly asked to just see a bank statement), used all of my savings to pay for groceries and medical costs for the kids AND he just cashed out a 401k account this October. IIRC the check he was cut was over $50k. So, yeah, it makes total sense for me to pay his fees. Whee
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