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My 4yr old was left at his dad's home w/ a 10 and 8 yr old...what do I do?

1,230 2,939 February 18, 2013 at 08:39 PM in Babies & Kids (2)
sorry people. I never venture into the Lounge, but I figured this was worth the question. My son is four and his dad and I have been split up/divorced for 3 yrs+. we have split custody and trade off every other week. we live in TX.

My son told me that he was left at home with the other two boys that live in his home that are 10 and 8 (ex lives with his GF and her 2 kids)

I am thinking of getting a lawyer and taking him to court for child endangerment.

I can understand maybe a 13+ yr old watching some other kid but not 10 and 8. They have no knowledge of CPR, first aid, calling 911 in a panic, fire danger, not answering the front door.

Any thoughts, suggestions? I am kind of scared of turning his dad in, as to what can happen on the weeks I dont have him, but I feel helpless putting my son in that situation.

I called my ex and he admitted they left them but "only for a few mins, and it wasnt my concern on the weeks that arent mine"

(please excuse the typing as my s and w key are busted, so I have to cut and paste. )

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Ms.arteest
02-18-2013 at 10:27 PM.
02-18-2013 at 10:27 PM.
Quote from beanqueen :
I think a mature 10 and 8 year old could watch out for their sibling for a short amount of time. But I'm one who expects a lot of responsibility out of children. Did you even try to discuss with your ex the exact length of time and the maturity of the boys he left your son with, without accusing him of neglect or endangerment?

I mean if it's one incident you could ask politely that it not happen again...but it sounds like you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Because you want to go after him immediately with court...why not just try talking about it calmly...

But I guess I'm not an over protective parent like most are these days.
No, you sound like a parent that raised responsible kids. Some children possess the ability to handle being home alone at a younger age. I think OP does need to feel very comfortable with the older children and their ability to respond in an emergency. It also matters if the grow ups are two doors down talking with the neighbors or a block down the road, and not across town. It matters too if their is a neighbor close by that knows the parents are leaving for a few and would be available if there was a 911.
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Justawannabe
02-18-2013 at 11:01 PM.
02-18-2013 at 11:01 PM.
I would let the dad know...just as other posters said was it a few minutes? Or hours?. Let him know that you are concerned... You know your ex...do you trust his judgement? Is he a good dad? Believe me it is sooo much better for everyone to truly try to work together to raise the kids...do not come off defensive, condescending, rude, or holier than thou...just state facts...let him know your concerns and let him go. Hopefully ( if it was against his better judgment) he wont let it happen again.....
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Cuemaster
02-18-2013 at 11:10 PM.
02-18-2013 at 11:10 PM.
turn off your helicopter motor and enjoy a quiet home.
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Iaaaiws
02-18-2013 at 11:10 PM.
02-18-2013 at 11:10 PM.
I have no idea if what the OP describes is endangerment or abuse or whatever, but there certainly ought to be a term that describes what an innocent child goes through when they have their lives uprooted every single week of the farking year to go live in a different house with their other parent because it is "their turn".

The kids always pay the biggest price for the choices of their parents.
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calistyle
02-18-2013 at 11:24 PM.
02-18-2013 at 11:24 PM.
Quote from DocsLeiLani :
I am sorry to hear your son was left alone like that. You as a parent must always keep your child safe. Since you're X thinks that when your son is with him you have no say, He is an idiot. I would call child protective services and let them hear from you're son what happened. That is Child Endangerment. If you lived in Oregon I would have to call and report this since I work for a College and the State of Oregon has instituted a Mandatory Reporting for anyone working for the State or Schools. I know it might be hard for you but Yes talk to your lawyer about getting full custody.
Not enough to lose custody.
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dealgate
02-19-2013 at 04:09 AM.
02-19-2013 at 04:09 AM.
In MD you have to be 12 to watch a sibling with no adult present. But we need more info. Was it for a 1/2 hour to go pick up something at the store or was it all day? Are the other kids in the house responsible or not? I know very mature 8 year olds that would be ok and I know 15 year olds I wouldn't trust to feed my fish. Are you just looking for things to complain about or is there a real concern for the child's safety? There is a reason you two got divorced and I suspect your attitude about this could be one of them. It is hard to look objectively at one's self, so maybe ask some of your friends if you have any that will do more then simply agree with you.

If you are simply looking to screw him over, check your local laws and see what your state min age is for this situation. If it is 12, you could do something about it, although I suspect they (CPS) will simply tell him not to do it again for a first offense.

You also need to realize that you are not the only parent for this child and his father is going to raise him as he sees fit.
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dalokgawd
02-19-2013 at 04:43 AM.
02-19-2013 at 04:43 AM.
Quote from aemcgee :
only for a few mins
If it was seriously only for a few minutes, so he could run to the neighbors and borrow a screwdriver or something, then you are WAYYYYYYY overreacting and you need to take a serious chill pill.
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chevvy
02-19-2013 at 04:47 AM.
02-19-2013 at 04:47 AM.
OP . . . . you've got issues. That said, I'm also a helicopter parent. Our primary job is the safety of our kids. I would be royally pissed if this happened (EDIT: until I found out it was just a few minutes). However, you're too use to being helicopter governed. Handle the situation yourself, and find out how responsible these 10 and 8 yo kids are. There's no reason at all to go to court over this. Should you find these kids are perfectly capable of handling an emergency situation, then you've nothing to worry about. Should you find otherwise, then you beat the shit out of your X. Quit "woe is me" with the court system. Grow some balls and tackle the situation yourself.
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chevvy
02-19-2013 at 04:51 AM.
02-19-2013 at 04:51 AM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I have no idea if what the OP describes is endangerment or abuse or whatever, but there certainly ought to be a term that describes what an innocent child goes through when they have their lives uprooted every single week of the farking year to go live in a different house with their other parent because it is "their turn".

The kids always pay the biggest price for the choices of their parents.

Iagree The root of the problem is both parents . . . . not just one.
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junbug178
02-19-2013 at 04:56 AM.
02-19-2013 at 04:56 AM.

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Qupon-her
02-19-2013 at 04:58 AM.
02-19-2013 at 04:58 AM.
I wont ever know how these kids would handle the situation because he would never let me meet them.

I have no choice over our custody situation. He wanted 50% custody so that's what we decided.

No one here could say that even if a child knew CPR or not to answer the door or how to call 911 that they would actually do it in an emergency situation.

I called my ex asking for him to clarify what my son said and as soon as I asked he went off on my telling and cursing and saying if I did something about it I would be burning bridges.

In my opinion, i don't thing there is ever a situation where I would leave my son and not want to take him with me. Going to the store? Take him with me...going to dinner? Take him with me or get a babysitter...
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chevvy
02-19-2013 at 05:06 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:06 AM.
Quote from aemcgee :
I wont ever know how these kids would handle the situation because he would never let me meet them.

I have no choice over our custody situation. He wanted 50% custody so that's what we decided.

No one here could say that even if a child knew CPR or not to answer the door or how to call 911 that they would actually do it in an emergency situation.

I called my ex asking for him to clarify what my son said and as soon as I asked he went off on my telling and cursing and saying if I did something about it I would be burning bridges.

In my opinion, i don't thing there is ever a situation where I would leave my son and not want to take him with me. Going to the store? Take him with me...going to dinner? Take him with me or get a babysitter...

There is nothing we can do as parents to replace a child when they've been taken from us. I know from experience. However, you come off as having more of a vendetta against your ex than a concern for your child.
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moey
02-19-2013 at 05:11 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:11 AM.
uh oh.... I bring the trash buckets in from the street and I tell our 3 year old to watch our 8 week old. I feel very negligent at this point. One time I even talked to the neighbor when I was out. Oh wait our dog is there shes 9, Im good..
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dalokgawd
02-19-2013 at 05:17 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:17 AM.
Quote from moey :
uh oh.... I bring the trash buckets in from the street and I tell our 3 year old to watch our 8 week old. I feel very negligent at this point. One time I even talked to the neighbor when I was out. Oh wait our dog is there shes 9, Im good..
YOU SHOULD GO TO THE FEDERAL POUND ME IN THE @$$ PRISON! Mad
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teenbean
02-19-2013 at 05:18 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:18 AM.
In WI you can be 12 years old and certified to watch other peoples kids, but there is no actual minimum age for watching other kids.

In the end it depends on the maturity of the children. I would have no problems leaving my nine year old daughter home for 20 minutes. She has known how to call 911 since she was five. She knows not to answer the door or the phone. Not to use the microwave. She is very responsible. But I would not leave her with her six year old sister because they fight too much.

What you need to do is teach your son how to call 911 and what emergencies are for when he should call 911. Teach him his phone # and address. Teach him your cell phone # so that he can call you if he doesn't feel safe. These are all things he needs to know for his own safety regardless of who is watching him. Teach him to not answer the door or the phone if no adults are in the house. You are responsible for making your son responsible.
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