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My 4yr old was left at his dad's home w/ a 10 and 8 yr old...what do I do?

1,230 2,939 February 18, 2013 at 08:39 PM in Babies & Kids (2)
sorry people. I never venture into the Lounge, but I figured this was worth the question. My son is four and his dad and I have been split up/divorced for 3 yrs+. we have split custody and trade off every other week. we live in TX.

My son told me that he was left at home with the other two boys that live in his home that are 10 and 8 (ex lives with his GF and her 2 kids)

I am thinking of getting a lawyer and taking him to court for child endangerment.

I can understand maybe a 13+ yr old watching some other kid but not 10 and 8. They have no knowledge of CPR, first aid, calling 911 in a panic, fire danger, not answering the front door.

Any thoughts, suggestions? I am kind of scared of turning his dad in, as to what can happen on the weeks I dont have him, but I feel helpless putting my son in that situation.

I called my ex and he admitted they left them but "only for a few mins, and it wasnt my concern on the weeks that arent mine"

(please excuse the typing as my s and w key are busted, so I have to cut and paste. )

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02-19-2013 at 05:23 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:23 AM.
Quote from teenbean :
In WI you can be 12 years old and certified to watch other peoples kids, but there is no actual minimum age for watching other kids.

In the end it depends on the maturity of the children. I would have no problems leaving my nine year old daughter home for 20 minutes. She has known how to call 911 since she was five. She knows not to answer the door or the phone. Not to use the microwave. She is very responsible. But I would not leave her with her six year old sister because they fight too much.

What you need to do is teach your son how to call 911 and what emergencies are for when he should call 911. Teach him his phone # and address. Teach him your cell phone # so that he can call you if he doesn't feel safe. These are all things he needs to know for his own safety regardless of who is watching him. Teach him to not answer the door or the phone if no adults are in the house. You are responsible for making your son responsible.
My 11 yo can beat up your 9 yo. What do you have to say to that? Boxing
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02-19-2013 at 05:33 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:33 AM.
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My 11 yo can beat up your 9 yo. What do you have to say to that? Boxing
My one week old can throw up on your 11 year old. What do you have to say to that? Boxing
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LordOfChaos
02-19-2013 at 05:34 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:34 AM.
ok, I will TRY to help out a bit.

OP, if your first thought is to lawyer up, you need to take a long look in the mirror and get your head right. I can only imagine the way you approached your ex when you learned of the situation, and I can probably understand why he would get defensive.

The first thing you should have done was calmed down, and tried to understand the situation from both sides. Then when you are calm and have thought about it a bit, think about what you would like to happen or change in the future. With your knee jerk reaction, what did you want to happen? Take away his custody? Is that what you want? Why? Or do you just want him to watch your son better? If its the latter, then a simple email or phone call would probably suffice. If its the former, then this situation has nothing to do with what you want.

Anyway, moving forward. You could probably say something like:

"Hey , sorry about the conversation the other day about . I was a little out of line with my tone and want to apologize. That being said, I am still concerned about having your GFs children watch , even if its for a few minutes. I know situations may come up when its not that convenient to take with you, but I would feel more comfortable if you would could just please have him go with you so that I know a responsible and caring person is always watching him. I know you would never want to put in a dangerous situation, and neither would I. And just as you have every right to know that is safe with me, I want to be assured that he is safe with you.

I really appreciate your consideration in this, and again I apologize for my tone the other day"
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02-19-2013 at 05:35 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:35 AM.
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My 11 yo can beat up your 9 yo. What do you have to say to that? Boxing
I think your 11 yo can beat up me!
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02-19-2013 at 05:39 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:39 AM.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/18/us/...?hpt=us_c2

Three Michigan children reportedly left alone in their family's apartment died in a fire Monday afternoon, a public safety official said.

The fire broke out around 2 p.m. in Kalamazoo, said Brian Uridge, assistant chief of public safety. Two of the children were 3 years old, and the third was 1, Uridge said.

"You could see smoke from blocks away," Uridge said. The main floor of the apartment building was engulfed in flames when firefighters arrived, and "they found three kids who had already perished as a result of the fire," he said. The cause of the fire is unknown, he said.

The children's parents were at the scene, Uridge said.

"Initially, we have information that the kids were left alone in the apartment, but we can't talk about charges because it's too early in the investigation," Uridge said.

The victims' identities have not been released.
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02-19-2013 at 05:55 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:55 AM.
Quote from teenbean :

In the end it depends on the maturity of the children. I would have no problems leaving my nine year old daughter home for 20 minutes. She has known how to call 911 since she was five. She knows not to answer the door or the phone. Not to use the microwave. She is very responsible. But I would not leave her with her six year old sister because they fight too much.
Awww come on...my sis and I had to walk to school together at those ages without parents around and we always fought...but we always knew we needed to take care of each other. So we'd fight until something real happened and then it was care-mode immediately. I'm sure your kids would be the same Big Grin
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02-19-2013 at 05:57 AM.
02-19-2013 at 05:57 AM.
Quote from LordOfChaos :
ok, I will TRY to help out a bit.

OP, if your first thought is to lawyer up, you need to take a long look in the mirror and get your head right. I can only imagine the way you approached your ex when you learned of the situation, and I can probably understand why he would get defensive.

The first thing you should have done was calmed down, and tried to understand the situation from both sides. Then when you are calm and have thought about it a bit, think about what you would like to happen or change in the future. With your knee jerk reaction, what did you want to happen? Take away his custody? Is that what you want? Why? Or do you just want him to watch your son better? If its the latter, then a simple email or phone call would probably suffice. If its the former, then this situation has nothing to do with what you want.

Anyway, moving forward. You could probably say something like:

"Hey , sorry about the conversation the other day about . I was a little out of line with my tone and want to apologize. That being said, I am still concerned about having your GFs children watch , even if its for a few minutes. I know situations may come up when its not that convenient to take with you, but I would feel more comfortable if you would could just please have him go with you so that I know a responsible and caring person is always watching him. I know you would never want to put in a dangerous situation, and neither would I. And just as you have every right to know that is safe with me, I want to be assured that he is safe with you.

I really appreciate your consideration in this, and again I apologize for my tone the other day"
If the OP had those skills the divorce might never have happened. wave
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02-19-2013 at 06:02 AM.
02-19-2013 at 06:02 AM.
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My one week old can throw up on your 11 year old. What do you have to say to that? Boxing
I'm guessing your 1 week old is up to date on her vaccines then. laugh out loud I remember when my princess was a few months old. Every time I'd change her diaper she would get chilly and sneeze. And when babies sneeze, projectile poo is expelled. vomit
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I think your 11 yo can beat up me!
He is skilled in hand to hand combat with bladed weapons! laugh out loud
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02-19-2013 at 06:10 AM.
02-19-2013 at 06:10 AM.
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I have no idea if what the OP describes is endangerment or abuse or whatever, but there certainly ought to be a term that describes what an innocent child goes through when they have their lives uprooted every single week of the farking year to go live in a different house with their other parent because it is "their turn".

The kids always pay the biggest price for the choices of their parents.
It's true that it's hard on the kid to go back and forth, but I'm a firm believer that kids need both parents and that it's better to have joint custody and force yourselves to work together on things. It's gonna be better for the kid in the long run when you're both at his baseball games or whatnot that he doesn't feel that tension between the two.

If you both are gonna have joint custody, then you need to work together to figure things out and have open honest communication. I'm sure it will come easier with time, but it's better to get those things into place early...

If you guys need to have some kind of counseling or whatever...you should both be bigger people...put your differences aside for the best of the child.

I'm currently watching my step-son deal with all of this. There is refusal to get along or work together and there is a court battle on the horizon and it's not fun. We do our best to keep any animosity away from him and try to be positive about him having love from two families but I know he still feels torn and it's not fair to him...

Good luck with all of this...and try to be strong and of sound mind for the sake of your son...I know you can do it.
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02-19-2013 at 06:31 AM.
02-19-2013 at 06:31 AM.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/18/us/...?hpt=us_c2

Three Michigan children reportedly left alone in their family's apartment died in a fire Monday afternoon, a public safety official said.

The fire broke out around 2 p.m. in Kalamazoo, said Brian Uridge, assistant chief of public safety. Two of the children were 3 years old, and the third was 1, Uridge said.

"You could see smoke from blocks away," Uridge said. The main floor of the apartment building was engulfed in flames when firefighters arrived, and "they found three kids who had already perished as a result of the fire," he said. The cause of the fire is unknown, he said.

The children's parents were at the scene, Uridge said.

"Initially, we have information that the kids were left alone in the apartment, but we can't talk about charges because it's too early in the investigation," Uridge said.

The victims' identities have not been released.
The ages are very close to the OP's situation. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) Confused or was this just posted cheer everyone up? Dontknow

OP my niece is 10 and my nephew is 7. They were home with my 14 year old niece, who was busy upstairs on the toilet. laugh out loud It was around 7pm and someone rang the door bell and was knocking and the 10 year old immediately with no guidance told my nephew to stay away from the door. The person continued to knock and ring the bell, so my niece got on the phone and called the across the street neighbor (who's a Secret Service agent) and he came over and spoke to the person. FYI it was a food delivery person going to the wrong house. Moral of the story, kids will often do the right thing. BTW I know countless adults with kids that don't really know first aid and CPR. nod
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02-19-2013 at 06:36 AM.
02-19-2013 at 06:36 AM.
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If the OP had those skills the divorce might never have happened. wave
LOL

Thats not necessarily true... I have those skills and I just got divorced Wink

But yeah, I have had to deal with my ex doing stupid shit and have had to calm down and be diplomatic...
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02-19-2013 at 06:39 AM.
02-19-2013 at 06:39 AM.
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LOL

Thats not necessarily true... I have those skills and I just got divorced Wink

But yeah, I have had to deal with my ex doing stupid shit and have had to calm down and be diplomatic...
I know, I don't really believe it completely, but merely looking for a rise out of them Coverlaugh
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02-19-2013 at 06:43 AM.
02-19-2013 at 06:43 AM.
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I know, I don't really believe it completely, but merely looking for a rise out of them Coverlaugh
ahhh Ninja

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02-19-2013 at 07:06 AM.
02-19-2013 at 07:06 AM.
Partially relevant, did latchkey kids stop existing?
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02-19-2013 at 07:08 AM.
02-19-2013 at 07:08 AM.
Y'all really need to learn how to co-parent for the child's best interest. With that being said, I wouldn't want my 4 year old left alone with children that age and would put a stop to it.
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