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backup cameras mandatory in all new vehicles

28,155 544 March 31, 2014 at 12:13 PM in Autos (4)
Automakers will be required to install backup cameras in most new vehicles by May 2018, a federal agency announced Monday. [cnn.com]

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration finalized a long-awaited rule requiring all new cars, SUVs, and minivans, as well as some new small trucks and buses to carry rear visibility technology.

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04-02-2014 at 10:09 PM.
04-02-2014 at 10:09 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws View quoted comment :
I wonder if they just assume that the idiots that carelessly backed over people would suddenly be carefully monitoring the backup camera when they back up?
They must only assume 59-69 of those people would, considering there are almost 210 backup deaths a year. laugh out loud
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04-02-2014 at 10:19 PM.
04-02-2014 at 10:19 PM.
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No.....but in my neighborhood, we have a "community" driveway with many homes. So, there are often kids running around the garage area/driveway. And when you're pulling out of the garage, a small child could easily run right out behind your car. Without a backup cam, you could possibly still see the small child. However, if they're right behind your SUV that's a little higher, you could easily miss the child if you don't have backup cam.
I've been wondering about this part as well. If a kid runs out in the path of the vehicle as you are backing up, and the driver is just relying on the camera, all that is going to happen is you get to see the panicked look on the kid's face in the camera just before you run him over. Now that would be awesome in its own way but hardly usable as a reason to justify the camera.
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04-03-2014 at 04:19 AM.
04-03-2014 at 04:19 AM.
It's impossible to engineer out all human stupidity, just some of it...
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04-03-2014 at 04:33 AM.
04-03-2014 at 04:33 AM.
Quote from z2g View quoted comment :
No.....but in my neighborhood, we have a "community" driveway with many homes. So, there are often kids running around the garage area/driveway. And when you're pulling out of the garage, a small child could easily run right out behind your car. Without a backup cam, you could possibly still see the small child. However, if they're right behind your SUV that's a little higher, you could easily miss the child if you don't have backup cam.

However, with the backup cam, you can see that child right behind your car/SUV. Do ppl absolutely need a backup cam? Of course not! But, it's definitely a useful aid when backing up.
Quote from z2g View quoted comment :
Sure....but they're not my kids! LOL!

It's like having navigation in your car. We lived without it for most of our lives. However, once I had it in my cars, I love it and would never want to go without it when I'm travelling.

Similarly, I've driven my whole life without backup cams. However, once I had it in my car, I made sure I had it in all my new cars because it's just safer. And, that's the operative word.....safer. Not required, but a great aid.

In my wife's X5, we have a backup cam AND sensors. Are both necessary? No, but both can be useful when backup up and parallel parking.
Totally agree!
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04-03-2014 at 06:55 AM.
04-03-2014 at 06:55 AM.
I work part-time in the limousine industry. I work with many highly-trained drivers, and more than 50% of accidents in the industry occur when backing up. Cameras are NOT the solution - only an additional tool when safely operating a vehicle in reverse.
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04-03-2014 at 07:55 AM.
04-03-2014 at 07:55 AM.
Quote from Iaaaiws View quoted comment :
I've been wondering about this part as well. If a kid runs out in the path of the vehicle as you are backing up, and the driver is just relying on the camera, all that is going to happen is you get to see the panicked look on the kid's face in the camera just before you run him over. Now that would be awesome in its own way but hardly usable as a reason to justify the camera.
So, you're saying that in-vehicle video recorders should be mandatory, as well?
I mean, how else are we going to get the grisly details posted to YouTube?!? laugh out loud
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04-03-2014 at 08:03 AM.
04-03-2014 at 08:03 AM.
All this talk of rearview video has to be setting off rayzacs deal alerts...
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04-03-2014 at 08:15 AM.
04-03-2014 at 08:15 AM.
Quote from z2g View quoted comment :
I think this is a good thing. I've had backup cams in my last 4 cars and love it. Makes backing up much safer.

Sure, it'll raise the prices of cars to offset standard equipment. But it's still better for consumers because automakers can't bulk backup cams with factory navigation anymore.

As far as repair costs, I've never had the backup cam malfunction on any of my cars....and one is a BMW which we've had for 4-5 yes now.
Lol2
To some people (me, for example) that BMW is practically brand new.
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04-03-2014 at 08:19 AM.
04-03-2014 at 08:19 AM.
I could get behind mandatory backup sensors but this mandatory camera requirement is definitely a bit perplexing...
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04-03-2014 at 08:26 AM.
04-03-2014 at 08:26 AM.
Quote from J03 View quoted comment :
I could get behind mandatory backup sensors but this mandatory camera requirement is definitely a bit perplexing...
Are you suggesting that the NSA is behind this, with a mandate of a secret recording unit so they can more easily keep an eye on the masses? That's absolutely preposterous, I can't believe you'd posit such a hare-brained theory. Kook.
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04-03-2014 at 08:28 AM.
04-03-2014 at 08:28 AM.
Quote from Frogstar View quoted comment :
Are you suggesting that the NSA is behind this, with a mandate of a secret recording unit so they can more easily keep an eye on the masses? That's absolutely preposterous, I can't believe you'd posit such a hare-brained theory. Kook.
Perfect gubmint viewpoint...worry more about what's behind than what's ahead...
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04-03-2014 at 08:36 AM.
04-03-2014 at 08:36 AM.
On the earlier note of elderly drivers:

http://tbo.com/news/crime/edlerly...-20140403/
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04-03-2014 at 08:47 AM.
04-03-2014 at 08:47 AM.
Quote from astromarmot View quoted comment :
On the earlier note of elderly drivers:

http://tbo.com/news/crime/edlerly...-20140403/
I think the systems on some of the new luxury vehicles which detect an obstacle ahead and automatically hit the brakes is more important than a backup camera. This should have been the mandatory adder... Think about how many incidents involving drunk or elderly drivers hitting pedestrians could be prevented by such technology as opposed to the whopping double digit numbers of people being backed over...

An unintended benefit of this requirement would be a reduction in the number of pet deaths as well. Win-win if you ask me.
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04-03-2014 at 09:34 AM.
04-03-2014 at 09:34 AM.
Quote from astromarmot View quoted comment :
On the earlier note of elderly drivers:

http://tbo.com/news/crime/edlerly...-20140403/
I bet a backup camera would have made it easier to back the car out of the store.
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04-03-2014 at 09:58 AM.
04-03-2014 at 09:58 AM.
Quote from Iaaaiws View quoted comment :
I bet a backup camera would have made it easier to back the car out of the store.
Or avoid this link in the chain of events:

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Her husband returned to the car, and then Underwood struck a Chevrolet Suburban as she was backing out of the parking space.

Her husband went to check on the Suburban as Underwood shifted the car into drive and returned to the parking spot, police said. Then, for unknown an reason, she accelerated and crashed through the front doors of the store, stopping about 25 feet inside.
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