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Santa Barbara murders
May 26, 2014 at
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Hundreds gathered at a memorial service Sunday night to mourn six young people killed two nights earlier by a gunman in a California college town.
Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting dead three others on Friday in Isla Vista, near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus. He then shot himself.
Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight who he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.
Minutes before opening fire the former community college student emailed his plans to some 30 people including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of Rodger and received a copy.
Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem then slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.
The manifesto, which details Rodger's fear that his guns might have been discovered when police visited him less than a month ago, was not the first indication of a troubled mind.
Linky [chicagotribune.com]
Am I the only one who sees the results of raising a self-esteem based "everyone gets a trophy" generation here? When everyone gets a trophy and every child is constantly told that they are special and everything they do is amazing, they never learn how to deal with rejection and failure. Failure is part of life and shielding children from it to preserve their self esteem is like smothering your child in antibiotics their whole life to protect them from getting sick and then wondering why they have no immune system when they grow up. If a child never learns how to cope with losing and being wrong, when they reach adulthood they don't have the mental faculties to deal with the failure they will invariably encounter in their adult lives. The guy who shot those innocent people in Santa Barbara claims that it was revenge for being rejected by the girls and the popular kids at his college. I was rejected by girls and popular kids my entire life and shooting a bunch of people never entered my mind. Maybe instead of giving our kids a trophy when they lose, we should teach them that losing is a part of life and give them the tools that they need to cope with failure, learn from it, and then get on with their lives.
Just a thought.
I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.
Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting dead three others on Friday in Isla Vista, near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus. He then shot himself.
Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight who he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.
Minutes before opening fire the former community college student emailed his plans to some 30 people including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of Rodger and received a copy.
Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem then slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.
The manifesto, which details Rodger's fear that his guns might have been discovered when police visited him less than a month ago, was not the first indication of a troubled mind.
Linky [chicagotribune.com]
Am I the only one who sees the results of raising a self-esteem based "everyone gets a trophy" generation here? When everyone gets a trophy and every child is constantly told that they are special and everything they do is amazing, they never learn how to deal with rejection and failure. Failure is part of life and shielding children from it to preserve their self esteem is like smothering your child in antibiotics their whole life to protect them from getting sick and then wondering why they have no immune system when they grow up. If a child never learns how to cope with losing and being wrong, when they reach adulthood they don't have the mental faculties to deal with the failure they will invariably encounter in their adult lives. The guy who shot those innocent people in Santa Barbara claims that it was revenge for being rejected by the girls and the popular kids at his college. I was rejected by girls and popular kids my entire life and shooting a bunch of people never entered my mind. Maybe instead of giving our kids a trophy when they lose, we should teach them that losing is a part of life and give them the tools that they need to cope with failure, learn from it, and then get on with their lives.
Just a thought.
I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.
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I saw that mentality from a lot of kids when I was still in school and I'm sure it is a lot worse now. I only had a couple of professors/instructors who wouldn't put up with the whiny bullshit and from your posts I wouldn't think you would tolerate it either.
You are fortunate to be in a position to do something about the behavior of these "lazy self entitled kids". How do you handle that and what do you do individually to attempt to make them see life differently?
A lot of professors will let students make up late work or assignments that they didn't turn in. A lot of professors don't have any penalties for missing class. A lot of professors drop the lowest exam grade or the lowest homework grade. I don't do these things because in the real world if you screw up an assignment, your boss is not going to "drop" your failure. So I want my students to get used to a real world attitude. It's more work for me, but like I said, I view it as part of my job to get them ready to face real world challenges.
Aren't the educators of our kids supposed to be open minded and not fall into the trap of preconceived notions?
Bunny blaming liberals for bullies beating up schoolchildren.
Whoever shows up from CPS gets their ass beat aswell. Once you take on a problem you have to be willing to see it through tothe end.
Bunny blaming liberals for the existence of greed.
The ultimate result of liberalism.
Bunny blaming liberals for threads getting locked?
Makes sense from a liberal perspective I guess.
We're going bankrupt, should we raise the limit onour credit cards or stop spending so much?
You would make a pretty good liberal.
Bunny blaming liberals for chaos on Black Friday.
A lot of professors will let students make up late work or assignments that they didn't turn in. A lot of professors don't have any penalties for missing class. A lot of professors drop the lowest exam grade or the lowest homework grade. I don't do these things because in the real world if you screw up an assignment, your boss is not going to "drop" your failure. So I want my students to get used to a real world attitude. It's more work for me, but like I said, I view it as part of my job to get them ready to face real world challenges.
Personally I used to pick the tougher professors in college because I wanted to learn, not just coast through. It almost always paid off. In a few rare instances the tougher ones weren't always that great at teaching.
I play GTA!
I'm pretty sure we discussed this at length with the last shooting...
Oh, right, you can beat them to death with a baseball bat, golf club, crowbar or your bare hands. You can also set them on fire with a molotov cocktail. Other than that though, my post covered everything else you do in GTA to kill people.
You know you can't force a cat to do anything! They like chasing and eating the bugs, I just have to show them where it is.
Anything less than that, and it's not worth my time to execute a mass murder killing spree.
Bunny blaming liberals for bullies beating up schoolchildren.
Bunny blaming liberals for people getting out of speeding tickets.
Bunny blaming liberals for the existence of greed.
Bunny blaming liberals for threads getting locked?
Bunny still blaming liberals for people being able to get out of speeding tickets.
Bunny blaming liberals for chaos on Black Friday.
Btw, I bet you can't stop feeding off your own hate and say positive and nice things about me like I just did to you.
Anything less than that, and it's not worth my time to execute a mass murder killing spree.
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I gave it about two seconds of thought... you didn't even give it that much?!
Great! More should follow that approach. Unfortunately they don't, as you say. What is also unfortunate is that you will get the reputation of being a tough professor and the laziest students will avoid your classes like the plague when scheduling (assuming there are alternate choices--I have no idea what you even teach). That can be good for you because you will end up with the more dedicated students but bad because the ones who need to learn that discipline may not get it.
Personally I used to pick the tougher professors in college because I wanted to learn, not just coast through. It almost always paid off. In a few rare instances the tougher ones weren't always that great at teaching.
Btw, I bet you can't stop feeding off your own hate and say positive and nice things about me like I just did to you.
Everyone else seems to be having a lot of fun in this thread. It is sad that you have to be so stodgy and bitter. Loosen up a little.
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What subject do you teach?