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So What Does Everyone Think About Deflate-Gate?
January 22, 2015 at
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The title says it. What does everyone think about this bizarre "Deflate-Gate" deal that is far more interesting that this year's Super Bowl? Belichick reaffirmed that he knew nothing at all about the football preparation and denied having anything to do with it.
Tom Brady is supposed to be talking publicly very soon and may be admitting to arranging to have the footballs prepped to the way he likes them.
So, is this a big deal? Is this something that happens with pretty much every team and it has just become public?
Tom Brady is supposed to be talking publicly very soon and may be admitting to arranging to have the footballs prepped to the way he likes them.
So, is this a big deal? Is this something that happens with pretty much every team and it has just become public?
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as an engineer all this stuff ran through my head days ago....
but it would also all be "solved" if the NFL would at least outline when, where, who, etc supposedly inspected the balls per the rules. We haven't heard ANYTHING about that, and that's something one would think they'd keep a record of (and be able to produce it on short order). The league has been pretty tightlipped on the issue and as of yesterday still hadn't interviewed Brady. Heck, the Patriots have already been convicted by most of the public, why wait for any sort of official inquiry?
As I said before - if such an offense was SO heinous, the penalties would match and result in forfeiture of wins, penalties, etc etc. Apparently the league doesn't see it as a big deal as the most serious talk is of a ~$25k fine and a couple draft picks (which are usually shit anyway since the Patriots are usually one of the top teams and get late picks regardless) - and let's face it, these are hardly punishments. If the condition of game balls is so crucial, let the league (e.g. refs) bring and manage the balls wholly for the entire game.
Has anybody in the history of the world ever said that when the real translation wasn't "we found and exploited a loophole but technically we didn't violate the rules so poopy on you"?
Has anybody in the history of the world ever said that when the real translation wasn't "we found and exploited a loophole but technically we didn't violate the rules so poopy on you"?
So back to the footballs. They started out at 12.5psi. The preparation and use increased the pressure to 13.5. Then the balls were given to the refs while still "active" and the refs had to let air out to get back down to 12.5 in a warm room. Then the balls were kept out in the cooler temperatures where the pressure dropped below what the rules specify.
I'm not saying I'm convinced, just that is what he seems to be presenting. The logic of it is sound but it wouldn't be difficult to experiment to find out if the numbers add up. My guess is that it would be close enough to the actual tested pressures to be believable or he wouldn't be sticking his neck out and claiming this to be a possibility.
So back to the footballs. They started out at 12.5psi. The preparation and use increased the pressure to 13.5. Then the balls were given to the refs while still "active" and the refs had to let air out to get back down to 12.5 in a warm room. Then the balls were kept out in the cooler temperatures where the pressure dropped below what the rules specify.
I'm not saying I'm convinced, just that is what he seems to be presenting. The logic of it is sound but it wouldn't be difficult to experiment to find out if the numbers add up. My guess is that it would be close enough to the actual tested pressures to be believable or he wouldn't be sticking his neck out and claiming this to be a possibility.
This would also explain how the balls stayed mostly the same after re-inflated, since they were re-inflated with cooler air.
And it also brings into question the actual legality of a practice like that. It wouldn't necessarily be illegal if they filled it up to the proper PSI and just left it alone after the inspection...
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On Thursday he admitted he spent the prior 3 days looking in depth into this and knew more then than he ever had. Why not bring this up then?
Ultimately it was found that the balls would have had to have been filled to the minimum requirement and then filled and stored in a 90° room before going into sub 50° weather. If this is what happened then why would you store your balls in a 90° plus room unless you were trying to get natural deflation?
What happened to the 12th ball?
If you can't tell the difference between under and over inflated balls how can you say you like under inflated balls?
Its know that Brady said in a interview on the radio in 2011 that he likes under inflated balls. Then in his press conference he said he likes them at exactly 12.5. If 12.5 is within the limit why would he say he likes a under inflated ball?
Taint taint taint.
Before spygate Shady and Belicheat were 3-0 in the Superbowl and 10-0 in the playoffs the first 5 years.
Since they are 0-2 in the super bowl and 10-8 in the playoffs.
What are they going to be after another card up their sleeve is found out?
This would also explain how the balls stayed mostly the same after re-inflated, since they were re-inflated with cooler air.
And it also brings into question the actual legality of a practice like that. It wouldn't necessarily be illegal if they filled it up to the proper PSI and just left it alone after the inspection...
11 of the 12 balls were under inflated, what happened to the 12th ball? You would think they would all be similar.
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