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So What Does Everyone Think About Deflate-Gate?
January 22, 2015 at
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The title says it. What does everyone think about this bizarre "Deflate-Gate" deal that is far more interesting that this year's Super Bowl? Belichick reaffirmed that he knew nothing at all about the football preparation and denied having anything to do with it.
Tom Brady is supposed to be talking publicly very soon and may be admitting to arranging to have the footballs prepped to the way he likes them.
So, is this a big deal? Is this something that happens with pretty much every team and it has just become public?
Tom Brady is supposed to be talking publicly very soon and may be admitting to arranging to have the footballs prepped to the way he likes them.
So, is this a big deal? Is this something that happens with pretty much every team and it has just become public?
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Don't care that much about it.
Why do you find it so difficult to answer my question with a YES or NO answer?
Why do you find it so difficult to answer my question with a YES or NO answer?
You two need to deflate your attitudes.
Also, the answer is that each team provides 12 balls and kicking balls. They use their own balls.
Why do you find it so difficult to answer my question with a YES or NO answer?
You two need to deflate your attitudes.
Also, the answer is that each team provides 12 balls and kicking balls. They use their own balls.
Thank you...man, that other guys a frickin douche bag!
Thank you...man, that other guys a frickin douche bag!
They didn't even pretend they weren't doing anything wrong. They admitted they were recording from an unauthorized location, paid their fines, gave up their draft pick, and carried on.
And I actually just read this article that hugely debunks your article:
http://regressing.dead
All speculative with zero basis in factual reality.
Lol now this is this guy trying his hardest to debunk it and you totally believing everything he said and at minimum its a really rare thing that the patriots have done. Usually people destroy arguments if you can.
Lol now this is this guy trying his hardest to debunk it and you totally believing everything he said and at minimum its a really rare thing that the patriots have done. Usually people destroy arguments if you can.
If you read the entire article, you'd see instead of using a cherry-picked ratio to make it look like a statistical anomaly, the Patriots only have 1.5-2 fumbles less per season outside of the league average. And when fumbles per reception are looked at only, they suddenly go back to third in the league.
He also does a good job at explaining why the fumbles:plays statistics are the way they are. The Patriots and Colts lead the league the way they do because of how fast they get rid of the ball after the hike:
But I can understand how, if you only read half of the article, you'd come to the conclusion you did. You really should read the whole thing. It's interesting.
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Lol now this is this guy trying his hardest to debunk it and you totally believing everything he said and at minimum its a really rare thing that the patriots have done. Usually people destroy arguments if you can.
http://soshcentral.com/football-s...mble-rate/
If you read the entire article, you'd see instead of using a cherry-picked ratio to make it look like a statistical anomaly, the Patriots only have 1.5-2 fumbles less per season outside of the league average. And when fumbles per reception are looked at only, they suddenly go back to third in the league.
He also does a good job at explaining why the fumbles:plays statistics are the way they are. The Patriots and Colts lead the league the way they do because of how fast they get rid of the ball after the hike:
But I can understand how, if you only read half of the article, you'd come to the conclusion you did. You really should read the whole thing. It's interesting.
Like I said my family comes from Fall River Mass, my whole life the patriots have been my 2nd or 3rd favorite team but this isn't the first time they have effected the integrity of the game on the field. I don't respect that as I am a NFL fan more than any team.
Its clear you are a big time patriot fan who is butt hurt. You are trying way way to hard dude.
Like I said my family comes from Fall River Mass, my whole life the patriots have been my 2nd or 3rd favorite team but this isn't the first time they have effected the integrity of the game on the field. I don't respect that as I am a NFL fan more than any team.
Its clear you are a big time patriot fan who is butt hurt. You are trying way way to hard dude.
Can you tell me why that's a big error, especially in this context?
And you consistently resorting to ad-hominems like calling me a butthurt Pats fan instead of actually trying to dispute the facts is very telling of just how little ground you have to stand on. It's really like you're just sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to acknowledge your article was hugely flawed, even in the face of pretty indisputable evidence.
http://www.sportingcha
Just click through the dates and see how they're consistently in the bottom of the league (this year they actually got kind of high up)... But I suppose that's something a deflated football wouldn't help with, right? But it'd somehow help players not drop the ball otherwise?
Can you tell me why that's a big error, especially in this context?
And you consistently resorting to ad-hominems like calling me a butthurt Pats fan instead of actually trying to dispute the facts is very telling of just how little ground you have to stand on. It's really like you're just sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to acknowledge your article was hugely flawed, even in the face of pretty indisputable evidence.
My leg to stand on is the league rule isn't only that the balls have to have the correct pressure at check in but also in the actual game. The rule was broken.
Then it comes down to if they accidentally gained a competitive advantage or if the purposely gained a competitive advantage.
Before spygate the league warned Belicheat about it and he continued to do it anyway. He showed no respect for the rules even after being told it would be enforced. The league doesn't just take a #1 draft pick away for nothing.
Now you add the total disregard for rules with Brady say that he likes a deflated ball (12.5 is regulation not deflated) but then later he says he likes a regulation ball and his coach says he can't tell the difference. Weird
Also someone posted that if a ball lost 2lbs going into 52° weather then in games in 15° weather the ball would only be a little over 8 PSI. V8 PSI is half way flat, this would be easily noticeable and would be common knowledge at this point. Your car tires would be barely driveable in freezing weather. Footballs have like 4 layers and are specifically built to insulate and perform a consistent job.
http://www.sportingcha
Just click through the dates and see how they're consistently in the bottom of the league (this year they actually got kind of high up)... But I suppose that's something a deflated football wouldn't help with, right? But it'd somehow help players not drop the ball otherwise?
Maybe since the ball attendant is letting air out without a gauge some of the balls vary and sometimes he misses one ball and double deflates another ball. So if Brady is playing with a 10.5 ball and then a 12.5 ball comes in or vice versa then maybe some of Bradys throws go a little long or short and the receivers can only get their finger tips on it.
Maybe since the ball attendant is letting air out without a gauge some of the balls vary and sometimes he misses one ball and double deflates another ball. So if Brady is playing with a 10.5 ball and then a 12.5 ball comes in or vice versa then maybe some of Bradys throws go a little long or short and the receivers can only get their finger tips on it.
My leg to stand on is the league rule isn't only that the balls have to have the correct pressure at check in but also in the actual game. The rule was broken.
Then it comes down to if they accidentally gained a competitive advantage or if the purposely gained a competitive advantage.
Before spygate the league warned Belicheat about it and he continued to do it anyway. He showed no respect for the rules even after being told it would be enforced. The league doesn't just take a #1 draft pick away for nothing.
Now you add the total disregard for rules with Brady say that he likes a deflated ball (12.5 is regulation not deflated) but then later he says he likes a regulation ball and his coach says he can't tell the difference. Weird
Also someone posted that if a ball lost 2lbs going into 52° weather then in games in 15° weather the ball would only be a little over 8 PSI. V8 PSI is half way flat, this would be easily noticeable and would be common knowledge at this point. Your car tires would be barely driveable in freezing weather. Footballs have like 4 layers and are specifically built to insulate and perform a consistent job.
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"Footballs have like 4 layers" tells me you're not even sure about what you're talking about.
Yes the football has 3 or 4 layers, depends on if you count the inner 2 layers that are adhesively bonded as one or 2.