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RETIRED: How to be a GOOD server in a restaurant

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These are the steps on how to be a good server in a restaurant:

1. Try to greet your table within 3-5 minutes. Try not to end up taking 8-10 minutes to greet a table, because that's when customers start to get irritated. If you do take longer than 5 minutes, do apologize.

2. Make sure customers have utensils. I can't count the times I've either had to get up to get my own utensils or had to asks my server for some. I've also have seen other customers and even my husband was brought food(which I didn't order any food that time) without any utensils.

3. Bring extra napkins always. MOST people, especially kids or if a person orders messy foods such as ribs, will more than likely need extra napkins.

4. Do ANY up selling BEFORE the customer orders, NOT AFTER the customer just placed their order. A couple of times I ordered a specific margarita they had on the menus at 2 different restaurants and those servers decided to try to sell me a different margarita AFTER I told them already what I actually wanted. That not only wasted their time, but irritated me.

5. Never bring ANY FOOD OR DRINKS to the table without knowing if the customer wants it, even if it's just water. Also, the server should ask if the customer wants lemon with their water. Some people may not want a slice of lemon. The server should ask or let the customer ask if they want a refill or anything for that matter. Some people like automatic refills, but I feel that a server can waste time at times getting things that the server isn't 100% sure that the customer actually wants a refill. I've declined refills before at times as well as changed the soft drinks I have ordered even. I am glad when servers ASK me instead of bringing something to the table that I didnt order. I don't care if it's free bread or chips & salsa, NOTHING should be ordered for the customer and that even includes a glass of water. The customer is the person that is ordering, NOT the server.

6. Bring drinks that aren't from the bar out first if there are any. For instance, if a customer at the table orders a drink from the bar and everyone else at the table orders soft drinks or tea or water, don't make everyone at the table suffer by waiting until the drink from the bar is ready.

7. When customers are placing their order, WRITE their order down. Write down EVERY detail and repeat the order to the customer. Make sure you understand every detail like if they said "no tomatoes" and you may have thought they said "only tomatoes." I've had 2 times that 2 different servers at 2 different restaurants assumed I wanted bbq sauce "ON THE SIDE" meaning that I didn't want bbq sauce on my ribs I ordered, when I actually wanted "2 SIDES" of extra bbq sauce. So when taking a customer's order, MAKE DARN SURE that you get EXACTLY what they said. I NEVER said "on the side", but they ASSUMED that, even though one of those times I remember I said "2 sides of "EXTRA" bbq sauce." I also NEVER said I wanted the ribs dry either. They just ASSUMED that. When in doubt, ASK or ASK them to repeat their order.

8. Don't EVER come back to the table after you have left to ask the customer to repeat their order! That's an interruption that's truly not necessary. Now if they are out of something or there's a problem with what someone ordered, that's completely different. I am talking about servers who don't write down orders or servers who didn't fully write down the order or get the entire order written correctly the FIRST TIME AROUND as they should have. For instance, I ordered a margarita with salt one time and the waiter came back to my table to ask if I wanted salt. He should have gotten it correct the FIRST time around. I also had a waitress one time ask "Did you say mudslide or a white russian?" I ordered a white russian, not a mudslide. My point is, points off the tip when I have to be interrupted for a server not getting all the details right the FIRST TIME AROUND. I understand if I have to repeat my order while they are initially taking my order, but to come to ask me AFTER they have already left the table is just not good service. As I said before, if they are out of something or there's no way to make a certain thing the way the customer wants it, that's understandable to have to come back to the table, but don't just come back to the table because you didn't get the ALL the details the first time around.

9. Know the menu. If I ask what comes in a side salad because of the fact that usually for some reason, a lot of menus don't list what comes in, don't tell me you don't know or need to ask someone UNLESS it is like your first day or something.

10. NEVER "ASSUME" ANYTHING, EVER! For example: My husband and I ordered 2 appetizers as well as 2 entrees at a restaurant. I didn't want what he wanted and he didn't want what I wanted, so that's why we ordered 2. We figured we could take the food home if we had too much. The waiter ASSUMED I wanted the appetizer with my meal. For starters, I NEVER ONCE said that. Also, I should assume that since the menu states it's an appetizer, that I would get it as an appetizer unless I state otherwise. We were waiting quite a while when the waiter came around and we asked where my chili cheese fries were. Our waiter replied "I thought you wanted it with your meal." I told him "I never said that." I was SOME PISSED that he "ASSUMED" we were going to "share" the first appetizer. Anyway, I received it 2 minutes literally before our entrees came out.

11. If someone wants a 2 for 1 drink "ONE at a time" respect that and only bring out one at a time. Also, ASK if the customer would like the drinks one at a time, which you might be surpised they MIGHT just want it one at a time due to ice making the drink watered down or maybe they might not want the second one.

12. Immediately put the order into the computer RIGHT AFTER you take the order unless there are food or drink orders that were ordered before the customers that you just got the order from that are ready, then obviously, bring those customers their food and/or drinks they ordered first, then put the order into the computer.

13. Servers should bring ALL condiments BEFORE the food is arrived. There is NEVER a reason to trust another server that ends up bringing out the food. If you want a good tip, make sure what that the things that are truly IN YOUR CONTROL will be correct at the very least. I have had 5 servers VOLUNTEER(meaning I didn't ask them to do that) to bring my condiments BEFORE my meal arrived whether or not they actually took my food to me. If someone orders a side of ranch, there's NO REAL REASON to wait all the way until the food is ready to bring it out which is usually around 25mins or so, when ranch doesn't need ANY cooking. Same thing with other condiments like mayo or mustard.

14. Make sure you are bringing enough of what the customer has asked for. My husband asked for ketchup and the waitress brought out an almost empty bottle, not enough for him to even get much out. Also, if someone asks for a "SIDE" of something, bring a "FULL" side, NOT "a HALF side." It's ridiculous that now I am having to tell my server, "Fill it all the way." I think that's just ridiculous. If I ask for a "side", I want a FULL SIDE. Especially if I asks for 2 sides of mayo, don't bring me 2 "half-sides" of mayo, because then it's like only having ONE side of mayo, so then you have to make another trip to get another side of mayo as I specifically ordered it. It's not like the server can't SEE that it's not full. Bring customers enough condiments so you WON'T have to make extra trips. Do you honestly care about the pennies it cost the restaurant to maybe give too much or do you care about your tips? I think a customer would rather have more than enough, than not enough, wouldn't you?

15. When the food is ready, if the same server takes the food to the customer that took the order, that server should be comparing the plate of food with the written order to see obvious mistakes such as a wrong side dish, a wrong entree, missing things, or anything that's obvious like a grilled chicken dish that's supposed to have swiss cheese(yellow) has bright orange cheddar cheese.

16. Make sure when you bring out someone's food that the item has the condiments that are listed on the menu unless told by the customer that they didn't want the condiments that come with the meal. I have had servers assume just because I ordered a side of ranch, I didn't want the marinara as well with cheese sticks. I don't get that, because they didn't even consider that since usually appetizers are shared, that just maybe the other person at the table might like the sauce that COMES with the item and the other person wants the other sauce. We both happen to like both sauces and dip them in both.

Also, I've had times when the condiments that were supposed to come with the food according to the MENU, weren't on the plate, meaning the server didn't verify the food they were taking to me with the menu. Like at Denny's, my husband ordered cheese fries as his appetizer and the ranch that was listed it came with and even had a picture of it, wasn't on the plate from our server when it arrived. I feel, how STUPID is it not to even realize something is MISSING and still take it to the customer like that considering they have it in a PICTURE as well as listed in the menu description. I feel if you don't know the menu, at least take a menu and verify the food BEFORE taking it to the customer.

17. If you run someone else's food and get a request for something such as a refill, please tell their server or even go get the refill. I have had some good and bad luck when I've done this. If my server is not around and if I want a refill, I will ask whomever comes to the table, considering they ARE a "SOME PART" of MY service. Sometimes those other servers worked as a TEAM by actually getting the refill for me, one time a server lied to me, and another one said something about that my server will get it, which she DIDN'T relay the message. The point of this one, WORK AS A TEAM, because it will come back to you. If you help out this other customer's table you don't have, but then another server helps you out with a customer's table you DO have, it truly all works out. No one seems to want to work as a team anymore these days. The people that do, are hard to find.

Also if there is a mistake that can be caught by this other server such as a missing item or wrong food, this other server should be the one to fix the situation to make it right, NOT make the customer wait longer to get our server to fix it. I don't get why MY server usually is the one that gets the forgotten condiments when another server brings out my food without the condiments I ordered. I feel WHY have another server run the food if they aren't going to verify the ticket with the plate of food? It's useless to have a food runner system if the other server doesn't verify what they are taking to the table is correct even. I am ONLY talking about things that are obvious that are wrong. Sure my server could be at fault for not putting in the order correctly to begin with, but I am willing to bet more than likely, it's the other server that's too lazy to read the ticket.

18. Check back with your customers once ANY food has arrived if someone else ran your food, because they may have a mistake that was not noticed at the time the food was ran, so no one was told about the mistake. It's important to check back with your customers to make sure the customers are happy with their food. It's not just mistakes that could be a problem, it could also be the food is cold or some type of other problem. If you don't check back with your customers, you won't know if something is wrong or not. Also, ask if they need anything. They might need something they didn't think of such as A-1 steak sauce or a refill.

19. If a mistake is made of any kind, apologize. I can't count HOW MANY TIMES I NEVER get an apology. I am not mean, I just tell them "I ordered such-n-such." At the VERY LEAST, say you are sorry. It's the RIGHT THING to do. It may even boost your tip such as when I have had apologies, that I tipped higher all because they were NICE about it.

20. If a mistake is made that's major such as a wrong entree or an overcharge, have the decency to TELL YOUR MANAGER! I can't count the times I didn't get a visit from a manager when MAJOR mess ups have happened. Also, if it's YOU who made the mess up, YOU try to make-up for it by asking the manager if he or she could comp something. Also, a major mess up should come with a PROFUSE apology such as "I am SO sorry." Not just a lousy "sorry" when the mistake is huge.

21. If you are server running someone else's food and there's a mistake of some sort, APOLOGIZE, even if it's might not be "YOUR" fault. Customers do usually want to hear an apology when something goes wrong. It IS the NICE thing to do.

22. If you ask the customer if they want something and they say "NO", DO NOT try to change their mind. I can't tell you how aggravating it is to have to almost argue with the server to get them to understand I don't want a dessert this time or whatever it is. If they say "NO", they MEAN IT!

23. Make sure there are NO overcharges or undercharges on the check and that it is indeed THAT customer's check. I have had prices that didn't match the menu. I have also had a server charge me for a salad without an entree, even though I got an entree. So make sure you press the correct button. My husband and I have had our credit cards rung up on the wrong table. We have been given the wrong check before. We have had extra items as well as missing items on the check. I also had substituted a cheddar cheese on a sandwich that came with swiss cheese, but was charged extra as if I was adding cheese to the sandwich. That time I also didn't get charged for a margarita that was almost $7. So not only did I have an overcharge, but also an undercharge in the same check. That just shows how some servers don't look over their work.

24. NEVER, EVER, bring the check without either being asked or asking. I have ordered a mixed drink AFTER a dessert at times. I truly HATE when servers bring the check along with the dessert as if they can read my mind or something. It's NOT their call to make if I am ready for the check or not, it's MINE. You NEVER KNOW, maybe the customer wants to order something else. I just had a waitress last night bring us the check just because we asked for boxes. She didn't even offer us dessert, which I actually wanted to order another mixed drink, but at the time I asked for the boxes, I still was drinking my margarita I had ordered beforehand, so I wasn't quite ready for the next drink yet, nor did I even decide what drink I wanted.

25. Do things in the order of it being requested. If I just asked for the check, get the check unless someone's food or drink is ready that had ordered BEFORE I did. Don't go to 2 other customer's tables to find out if they need anything. That's just RUDE! People usually want to leave when they ask for the check, so be CONSIDERATE not to WASTE ANY of their time by getting the check as soon as possible unless someone's food or drink is ready that had asked for their stuff BEFORE I did.

26. Ring up the check within a 3 minute range at the MOST. Don't make the customers wait 5 minutes or more to be able to leave.

27. Give ALL change back, even if it's just a penny unless the customer TELLS you to keep the change. NEVER just not return someone's change or ask if they want change. Always give back change unless the customer tells you to keep the change, because they haven't tipped you yet. One waiter one time kept 31 cents change and only gave me back a 5 dollar bill from a check that was $34.69 that I paid with (2) 20 dollar gift certificates . I found that to be presumptuous of him. It WASN'T "HIS" money YET, it was my money. Instead of $4.50 we were going to leave, because his service wasn't so great, he got stiffed all because he STOLE from us. He had NO RIGHTS to that money yet.
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Quote from Springs1 :
These are the steps on how to be a good server in a restaurant:

1. Try to greet your table within 3-5 minutes. Try not to end up taking 8-10 minutes to greet a table, because that's when customers start to get irritated. If you do take longer than 5 minutes, do apologize.
Okay, I think this is a gimme. No need to point this one out to the world.
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2. Make sure customers have utensils. I can't count the times I've either had to get up to get my own utensils or had to asks my server for some. I've also have seen other customers and even my husband was brought food(which I didn't order any food that time) without any utensils.
Agree, however, if you've ever been a server, you might find out that servers don't always set the table. That's often done by bussers. Although I agree that it's the server's tip on the line, it's just something to consider. I'm sure there are small mistakes that everyone makes in his/her job. We've all been there. It just doesn't get under my skin to have to ask, because I've been there and I know how chaotic it can be to wait tables.

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3. Bring extra napkins always. MOST people, especially kids or if a person orders messy foods such as ribs, will more than likely need extra napkins.
Sure, okay. Again, is it that big a deal to ask? You were taught manners, weren't you? Just ask. No big. If it's a rib joint, there should be extra napkins on the table anyway, to save the servers the extra hoofing (which they do enough, trust me).

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4. Do ANY up selling BEFORE the customer orders, NOT AFTER the customer just placed their order. A couple of times I ordered a specific margarita they had on the menus at 2 different restaurants and those servers decided to try to sell me a different margarita AFTER I told them already what I actually wanted. That not only wasted their time, but irritated me.
Spoken like someone who's never "been there". Servers don't do this to annoy you. They do it because they're told to by their bosses, and if their bosses don't hear them doing it, they get in big trouble. Can't blame the server. You need to blame the establishment if you don't like this.

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5. Never bring ANY FOOD OR DRINKS to the table without knowing if the customer wants it, even if it's just water. Also, the server should ask if the customer wants lemon with their water. Some people may not want a slice of lemon. The server should ask or let the customer ask if they want a refill or anything for that matter. Some people like automatic refills, but I feel that a server can waste time at times getting things that the server isn't 100% sure that the customer actually wants a refill. I've declined refills before at times as well as changed the soft drinks I have ordered even. I am glad when servers ASK me instead of bringing something to the table that I didn't order. I don't care if it's free bread or chips & salsa, NOTHING should be ordered for the customer and that even includes a glass of water. The customer is the person that is ordering, NOT the server.
Pfft, you're out of your mind. I take mental stock as to whether or not my server brings water immediately, and also the chips/salsa/bread, etc. I don't even eat bread, but I notice. And I drink more water than a droughted camel, so you'd better believe I notice if they bring my water. And if they don't...I take heed and stock, so I think you're in the minority here.

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6. Bring drinks that aren't from the bar out first if there are any. For instance, if a customer at the table orders a drink from the bar and everyone else at the table orders soft drinks or tea or water, don't make everyone at the table suffer by waiting until the drink from the bar is ready.
Well, wouldn't that be nice? Hope your server doesn't have anyone else to serve, besides Queen Springs, here. Rolleyes2
Sure, if it can be done, this is optimal. If it can't, well, you'd have had water by now, if you weren't so picky. You could be drinking that, couldn't you?

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7. When customers are placing their order, WRITE their order down. Write down EVERY detail and repeat the order to the customer. Make sure you understand every detail like if they said "no tomatoes" and you may have thought they said "only tomatoes." I've had 2 times that 2 different servers at 2 different restaurants assumed I wanted bbq sauce "ON THE SIDE" meaning that I didn't want bbq sauce on my ribs I ordered, when I actually wanted "2 SIDES" of extra bbq sauce. So when taking a customer's order, MAKE DARN SURE that you get EXACTLY what they said. I NEVER said "on the side", but they ASSUMED that, even though one of those times I remember I said "2 sides of "EXTRA" bbq sauce." I also NEVER said I wanted the ribs dry either. They just ASSUMED that. When in doubt, ASK or ASK them to repeat their order.
Sounds good, in theory. Again, the establishments often ask that servers interact with their "clients" and not write down everything. Rather, they want the servers looking at the people in the eye, making eye contact, rather than writing on tablets. I can't say that I don't agree with you. I can only tell you what the establishment tells the server. This especially applies to high-end establishments. You'll rarely see a server writing an order at a high-end establishment. They're simply asked not to do it.

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8. Don't EVER come back to the table after you have left to ask the customer to repeat their order! That's an interruption that's truly not necessary. Now if they are out of something or there's a problem with what someone ordered, that's completely different. I am talking about servers who don't write down orders or servers who didn't fully write down the order or get the entire order written correctly the FIRST TIME AROUND as they should have. For instance, I ordered a margarita with salt one time and the waiter came back to my table to ask if I wanted salt. He should have gotten it correct the FIRST time around. I also had a waitress one time ask "Did you say mudslide or a white russian?" I ordered a white russian, not a mudslide. My point is, points off the tip when I have to be interrupted for a server not getting all the details right the FIRST TIME AROUND. I understand if I have to repeat my order while they are initially taking my order, but to come to ask me AFTER they have already left the table is just not good service. As I said before, if they are out of something or there's no way to make a certain thing the way the customer wants it, that's understandable to have to come back to the table, but don't just come back to the table because you didn't get the ALL the details the first time around.
Hey, if you forgot what I wanted, you'd better come back and ask! Of course, I'd prefer that you got it all the first time, but if you have to come back and ask, by all means, you come back and ask. It's considerably better service to come back and admit that you've forgotten something than to pretend you know what you're doing and proceed accordingly. Most servers walk a thin line between pleasing the consumer and pleasing the establishment. They don't write orders to please the establishment. This leads to the occasional forgotten order. I'd rather they get my order right by coming to ask me, and it's not that much skin off my nose to repeat myself, but then, I'm not so self-involved that I have to complain about it, either.

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9. Know the menu. If I ask what comes in a side salad because of the fact that usually for some reason, a lot of menus don't list what comes in, don't tell me you don't know or need to ask someone UNLESS it is like your first day or something.
Again, this is optimal, but menus change daily. Even the most seasoned server will not necessarily know the entire menu every day, unless they're also cooking it. When we're talking about a rib joint...hang it up. Many servers are teenagers/young adults in school. They're just not as committed as you'd like to think they should be. Be happy that you're getting your food, and if they have to ask a question of the chef...so be it. Sure, in a high-end restaurant, should you expect more? Yeah, okay. Still, the menus change. Live with it, or cook at home.

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10. NEVER "ASSUME" ANYTHING, EVER! For example: My husband and I ordered 2 appetizers as well as 2 entrees at a restaurant. I didn't want what he wanted and he didn't want what I wanted, so that's why we ordered 2. We figured we could take the food home if we had too much. The waiter ASSUMED I wanted the appetizer with my meal. For starters, I NEVER ONCE said that. Also, I should assume that since the menu states it's an appetizer, that I would get it as an appetizer unless I state otherwise. We were waiting quite a while when the waiter came around and we asked where my chili cheese fries were. Our waiter replied "I thought you wanted it with your meal." I told him "I never said that." I was SOME PISSED that he "ASSUMED" we were going to "share" the first appetizer. Anyway, I received it 2 minutes literally before our entrees came out.
By this point, your sever probably didn't care what you wanted. I wouldn't have. I'm sure that your server had already written off your tip and decided to focus on the tables where a tip was more likely to be hefty. Servers work for tips. If you're a jerk, and they're confident that your tip is going to be non-existent, or pathetic, why bother with you? They've got bigger fish to fry. At that point, you're just fortunate to get your food, and all of the complaining in the world isn't going to get you anywhere. Complain to the Mgr. if you like. Go ahead. The Mgr. will ask the server what happened. The server will tell about how picky you were. The Mgr. will be glad to keep the server around, because people who work for tips are hard to find, but you'll leave with the Mgr's apology and assurances that "something will be done" and you'll feel all vindicated, but really...nothing happened.

Now, I would agree that a server should ask if you want your app w/your meal, or out-first. Still, I wouldn't give a fig about you, by this point. You could eat off the floor, if you were my table.

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11. If someone wants a 2 for 1 drink "ONE at a time" respect that and only bring out one at a time. Also, ASK if the customer would like the drinks one at a time, which you might be surpised they MIGHT just want it one at a time due to ice making the drink watered down or maybe they might not want the second one.
I don't even know what a 2 for 1 drink is, so I can't respond to that.

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12. Immediately put the order into the computer RIGHT AFTER you take the order unless there are food or drink orders that were ordered before the customers that you just got the order from that are ready, then obviously, bring those customers their food and/or drinks they ordered first, then put the order into the computer.
Well yes, that goes without saying. I agree with this.

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13. Servers should bring ALL condiments BEFORE the food is arrived. There is NEVER a reason to trust another server that ends up bringing out the food. If you want a good tip, make sure what that the things that are truly IN YOUR CONTROL will be correct at the very least. I have had 5 servers VOLUNTEER(meaning I didn't ask them to do that) to bring my condiments BEFORE my meal arrived whether or not they actually took my food to me. If someone orders a side of ranch, there's NO REAL REASON to wait all the way until the food is ready to bring it out which is usually around 25mins or so, when ranch doesn't need ANY cooking. Same thing with other condiments like mayo or mustard.
Oh, how wrong you are on this. Other servers "runners" are expected to bring food for you. That's the rule of the establishment, and the way that servers are trained. I always ask for Tabasco with my meal. I ask for it ahead of time, and typically, a runner brings out my food, which means I don't get my Tabasco. No big. I ask the runner for it. I get my Tabasco. So what? Maybe I'm not uptight about it, because I understand restaurants. Maybe everyone who eats in a restaurant should have to take a course.

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14. Make sure you are bringing enough of what the customer has asked for. My husband asked for ketchup and the waitress brought out an almost empty bottle, not enough for him to even get much out. Also, if someone asks for a "SIDE" of something, bring a "FULL" side, NOT "a HALF side." It's ridiculous that now I am having to tell my server, "Fill it all the way." I think that's just ridiculous. If I ask for a "side", I want a FULL SIDE. Especially if I asks for 2 sides of mayo, don't bring me 2 "half-sides" of mayo, because then it's like only having ONE side of mayo, so then you have to make another trip to get another side of mayo as I specifically ordered it. It's not like the server can't SEE that it's not full. Bring customers enough condiments so you WON'T have to make extra trips. Do you honestly care about the pennies it cost the restaurant to maybe give too much or do you care about your tips? I think a customer would rather have more than enough, than not enough, wouldn't you?
IS there enough for you?

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15. When the food is ready, if the same server takes the food to the customer that took the order, that server should be comparing the plate of food with the written order to see obvious mistakes such as a wrong side dish, a wrong entree, missing things, or anything that's obvious like a grilled chicken dish that's supposed to have swiss cheese(yellow) has bright orange cheddar cheese.
Yes, they should.

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16. Make sure when you bring out someone's food that the item has the condiments that are listed on the menu unless told by the customer that they didn't want the condiments that come with the meal. I have had servers assume just because I ordered a side of ranch, I didn't want the marinara as well with cheese sticks. I don't get that, because they didn't even consider that since usually appetizers are shared, that just maybe the other person at the table might like the sauce that COMES with the item and the other person wants the other sauce. We both happen to like both sauces and dip them in both.
Also, I've had times when the condiments that were supposed to come with the food according to the MENU, weren't on the plate, meaning the server didn't verify the food they were taking to me with the menu. Like at Denny's, my husband ordered cheese fries as his appetizer and the ranch that was listed it came with and even had a picture of it, wasn't on the plate from our server when it arrived. I feel, how STUPID is it not to even realize something is MISSING and still take it to the customer like that considering they have it in a PICTURE as well as listed in the menu description. I feel if you don't know the menu, at least take a menu and verify the food BEFORE taking it to the customer.
Agreed. If you treated me like I was stupid (rather than just busy), however; I'd treat you like you were not hungry and/or tipping.


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17. If you run someone else's food and get a request for something such as a refill, please tell their server or even go get the refill. I have had some good and bad luck when I've done this. If my server is not around and if I want a refill, I will ask whomever comes to the table, considering they ARE a "SOME PART" of MY service. Sometimes those other servers worked as a TEAM by actually getting the refill for me, one time a server lied to me, and another one said something about that my server will get it, which she DIDN'T relay the message. The point of this one, WORK AS A TEAM, because it will come back to you. If you help out this other customer's table you don't have, but then another server helps you out with a customer's table you DO have, it truly all works out. No one seems to want to work as a team anymore these days. The people that do, are hard to find.
Your server didn't lie to you. She forgot. You know, like when you get to a room and go, "Why am I here?" Boy, you're quick to assume that people are out to get you, aren't you? Still, I agree that you should do what you said you'd do, but I sincerely doubt that the server just plain lied to you, though she might have been tempted, given your attitude.

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18. Random Diatribe
Bordering on War & Peace. Running out of steam...
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19. If a mistake is made of any kind, apologize. I can't count HOW MANY TIMES I NEVER get an apology. I am not mean, I just tell them "I ordered such-n-such." At the VERY LEAST, say you are sorry. It's the RIGHT THING to do. It may even boost your tip such as when I have had apologies, that I tipped higher all because they were NICE about it.
Nice? Like breeds like. Were you nice? Doesn't sound like it. Was there any hope of a tip? Doesn't sound like it. Why should the server be nice, then? Just because it's her/his job? Well, actually...it was her/his job at the beginning...when you first sat down. After you were nasty, it wasn't really her/his job to be nice. Just to get you your food. If the server wanted to continue to do a good job, then yes...nice still counts. If they didn't really care what kind of server they were being (as you didn't care what kind of consumer you were being), they there's no need to be nice, anymore.

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20. If a mistake is made that's major such as a wrong entree or an overcharge, have the decency to TELL YOUR MANAGER! I can't count the times I didn't get a visit from a manager when MAJOR mess ups have happened. Also, if it's YOU who made the mess up, YOU try to make-up for it by asking the manager if he or she could comp something. Also, a major mess up should come with a PROFUSE apology such as "I am SO sorry." Not just a lousy "sorry" when the mistake is huge.
Agree. Again, it sounds like you'd been awfully difficult by this point. I wouldn't have much to say to you, either. In fact, I'd just hope you didn't return to my establishment.

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21. If you are server running someone else's food and there's a mistake of some sort, APOLOGIZE, even if it's might not be "YOUR" fault. Customers do usually want to hear an apology when something goes wrong. It IS the NICE thing to do.
Agreed. All of this apology talk makes me wonder how you respond to apologies. I remember apologizing to people who wouldn't respond, or would just sort of "harumph" when the first thing went mildly wrong (perhaps not my fault) and I apologized nicely. Doesn't really make you care about their experience from that point forward.

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22. If you ask the customer if they want something and they say "NO", DO NOT try to change their mind. I can't tell you how aggravating it is to have to almost argue with the server to get them to understand I don't want a dessert this time or whatever it is. If they say "NO", they MEAN IT!
Okay.

[quote=Springs1;11030047]23. Charging diatribe.[/quote]
Obviously

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24. NEVER, EVER, bring the check without either being asked or asking. I have ordered a mixed drink AFTER a dessert at times. I truly HATE when servers bring the check along with the dessert as if they can read my mind or something. It's NOT their call to make if I am ready for the check or not, it's MINE. You NEVER KNOW, maybe the customer wants to order something else. I just had a waitress last night bring us the check just because we asked for boxes. She didn't even offer us dessert, which I actually wanted to order another mixed drink, but at the time I asked for the boxes, I still was drinking my margarita I had ordered beforehand, so I wasn't quite ready for the next drink yet, nor did I even decide what drink I wanted.
Preference. This doesn't bother me. If I want something more, I'll let them know. I can stand up and speak for myself, and I'm guessing you can, too. At this point, I'm sure they were just hoping you'd LEAVE!

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25. Do things in the order of it being requested. If I just asked for the check, get the check unless someone's food or drink is ready that had ordered BEFORE I did. Don't go to 2 other customer's tables to find out if they need anything. That's just RUDE! People usually want to leave when they ask for the check, so be CONSIDERATE not to WASTE ANY of their time by getting the check as soon as possible unless someone's food or drink is ready that had asked for their stuff BEFORE I did.
Wrong! You're not the only pig at the trough! Everyone needs to be served. Not just you and your family. Wow. How rude of you!

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26. Ring up the check within a 3 minute range at the MOST. Don't make the customers wait 5 minutes or more to be able to leave.
Or take this person's credit card to Macy's for a quick shopping trip.

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27. Give ALL change back, even if it's just a penny unless the customer TELLS you to keep the change. NEVER just not return someone's change or ask if they want change. Always give back change unless the customer tells you to keep the change, because they haven't tipped you yet. One waiter one time kept 31 cents change and only gave me back a 5 dollar bill from a check that was $34.69 that I paid with (2) 20 dollar gift certificates . I found that to be presumptuous of him. It WASN'T "HIS" money YET, it was my money. Instead of $4.50 we were going to leave, because his service wasn't so great, he got stiffed all because he STOLE from us. He had NO RIGHTS to that money yet.
Now here, we agree up to the point where you stiffed the server.

I used to give great service to everyone and wonder why the people who cut their losses with tables like you got better tips than I did at the end of the night. It's because they know where their bread is buttered. Great tables get great service and they leave great tips. If you want great service, be a great table, and leave a great tip. If you don't, servers are smart. They know how to make $$$ by the end of the night, and the way they do it is by giving a table like yours minimal service. Period. I learned, and so does every other server in the world. If you don't want to be a great table, and you don't want to leave great tips, that's fine, but don't expect great service. You will not get it.

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04-21-2008 at 08:28 AM.
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It doesn't matter if you agree with OP or not. If you're a server, you're stupid. You have no book smarts and no common sense.
Boy, did I waste a lot of red ink. Big Grin

Wait, what if I'm not a server, anymore??
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I'm really starting to think that Mr. SD went out and has hired writters to entertain us all since we lost our local shinanigans talent.
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I'm really starting to think that Mr. SD went out and has hired writters to entertain us all since we lost our local shinanigans talent.

DRIOWNED!!!
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DRIOWNED!!!
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I'm really starting to think that Mr. SD went out and has hired writters to entertain us all since we lost our local shinanigans talent.
Well, it's certainly kept me from getting any work done!
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04-21-2008 at 08:50 AM.
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I agree with slickitty. I wasn't lazy as a server. I was smart. There are some people that will tip terribly no matter how hard you try (*cough*Springs1*cough*) and my time is better spent at tables where its fun to wait on my customers and I am guaranteed a good tip. So crappy customers get crappy service. Which is why the OP is so bitter and gets terrible service.

So basically what I am saying is that the OP is ignorant and doesn't know how to work the system and most servers do.

And OP went home that night ticked off and their server went home happy with a wad of cash from being smart about how they spent their time. laugh out loud
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Dammit where is the OP? I've been waiting longer than the allowed 3 minutes for them to come back online. I'm DEFINITELY deducting points for this. Nono2
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Dammit where is the OP? I've been waiting longer than the allowed 3 minutes for them to come back online. I'm DEFINITELY deducting points for this. Nono2
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Dammit where is the OP? I've been waiting longer than the allowed 3 minutes for them to come back online. I'm DEFINITELY deducting points for this. Nono2
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I don't make a "SCENE" about things.



How am I "WRONG" when a server can be WRONG when getting a refill that the customer may not want a refill or may want something else? That's PROOF that servers that do that sometimes do work for NOTHING. HOW I am wrong to act like customer service should be what the CUSTOMER WANTS, NOT what the SERVER WANTS? Since when do I care what my server wants me to drink? I care about what I want to drink. It's not your decision about what I want to put in MY BODY.

The entire board didn't disagree. 2 people have agreed with me. They disagree, because they stick with the same drink and don't get tired of a certain drink like I do. They also want refills. The servers that disagree are too lazy to come to the customer's table to find out first what is wanted, because they only care about THEMSELVES.

WHY should everyone be lumped into feeling the SAME EXACT WAY as EVERYONE ELSE? Everyone should get treated as they are DIFFERENT, because we all are DIFFERENT.
this statement right here shows me that the OP has NEVER serverd tables, not even once. To serve tables is the farthest from lazy you can possibly have in a job. When it gets goin, you are running NON-STOP for anywhere from 4 - 10 hrs at once. You are constantly moving, constantly being a "happy" and "friendly" person b/c you have to be! To say they are being lazy by trying to be proactive is crazy.

Also, you talk about it being a waste of time. Odds are 9/10 times, you are not just waiting on one table at a time EVER when its busy. you are at the drink station, you think "hey table 3 needs 2 cokes, table 4 needs 2 dps, and i noticed table 4 was low on their Diet as well". Then, you get it all at once. Its called being efficient. There is no time wasted whatsoever. The worst thing that happens , is the customer says "oh no thank you, i dont need another" or "hey actually can i just get a coffee in stead", or if its you they say "you LAZY imbicile!!! How dare you try to bring me an extra drink, no tip, and wheres your manager, i want my meals for free!!"


See the differance, nut job???
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I'm actually confused about the "refill" situation. Is she just talking about water?

Are these free refills.... or "Oh look, his beer is gone, I'll order him another and add it to his tab because he's going to need it dealing with that woman" type of refills?

I just haven't eaten anyplace other than Burger King that offers refills on anything but water and coffee.
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I'm actually confused about the "refill" situation. Is she just talking about water?

Are these free refills.... or "Oh look, his beer is gone, I'll order him another and add it to his tab because he's going to need it dealing with that woman" type of refills?

I just haven't eaten anyplace other than Burger King that offers refills on anything but water and coffee.
Nope, she's freaking out about free refills on soda in restaurants. You know, the ones you don't have to pay for that they automatically bring when your glass is empty... Crazy
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