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Women and Smalller or whimpy men of SD. whats a good carry gun for my wife?

6,832 513 August 22, 2016 at 09:40 AM in Help (2)
I'm looking at either Revolver or Semi, but won't know for sure until after we go and hold both to see what she's more comfortable with.

She's gone shooting with me multiple times and is a pretty decent shot.

So, what do the women of this forum have and how do you like it? Do you just carry it in your purse/car/house?

Looking at S&W BodyGuard, Shield, Glock 43.....something along those lines.

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Novakingwai
08-22-2016 at 06:56 PM.
08-22-2016 at 06:56 PM.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE For the love of everything Holy and American in this land, take her to a range and let her try several different ones! I work at a gun store and I see it ALL the time, people buy their wife a gun, or she buys one herself, thinking they will like it based on the looks, size, or how it feels before they try it. Then they take it to the range, don't like it, or it hurts to shoot, and they want a refund. There are NO refunds on guns, we can buy it back at a reduced cost because it is now sold as used. We have over 50 guns for trying, the most popular ones out there, and if you rent one to try we will take the rental fee off the one you purchase. I say look for a gun store that does the same. Also ask her if she wants an external safety (like a 1911 thumb safety). Many women don't realize some guns have it and some don't, and after buying they want to change which is too late you will suffer a loss. I believe external safeties are non essential as modern guns have multiple safeties built in, but it is something a lot of woman want.

When you say carry and by your examples I say you are going for concealed. My top recommendations would be
$$$$Springfield XDS 9 mm
$$$$Glock 43
$$$$$Sig Sauer P238 which has SAS Sig Anti Snag. All the corners on the gun that would normally be sharp are rounded out to help prevent it from getting caught on clothing or purses. (If you search P238 you will see about 30 different models. They are all the same gun, only difference is the colors.)
$$$Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 380
$$$Smith & Wesson Shield (comes in 2 version, one with thumb safety and one without.)
$$$Walther PPS (Do not confuse with PPQ, PPQ is a full sized model)
These guns all have great reviews and hold their value well if she ever wanted to trade for something different later.
$$$$$HK P30SK

Do not get a 1911 compact. John Browning never intended the design to work in anything other than 45 ACP. They usually have cycling issues.
I also recommend against revolvers. They are a bit bulkier. Yes they have the advantage of being able to fire every time the trigger is pulled. But they also have the disadvantage of having a much heavier trigger pull, and since many people don't practice enough they never learn to fully control the gun and the extra trigger pull decreases their accuracy.

Please do not get her a Taurus or Ruger. They do have some popular guns and do have proven reliability, but in a life or death situation I would NOT trust my life with those brands. They have the biggest recall and quality issues.
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08-22-2016 at 07:54 PM.
08-22-2016 at 07:54 PM.
I'm 5'2" and my preferred gun in a Beretta 9 mil. My hand is too small for anything with a double stack so a single or staggered stack is best for me. But I also don't like shooting without being able to get my pinky finger on the grip (I actually have way worse aim that way too) so too small of a gun in no good either. Gloks seem much "too square" grip wise and tend to tear up my hands.
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Novakingwai
08-22-2016 at 09:06 PM.
08-22-2016 at 09:06 PM.
To add to the previous posters comment, most concealed carry guns come with 2 magazines (not clips!). 1 will be flushed with the bottom of the grip to keep the gun small. 1 will have a longer magazine or have a pinky extension so that it will be easier to grip. The added length usually adds 1 extra bullet capacity. And if she is interested in a gun that doesn't have the pinky extension then there are plenty of after market ones you can buy for about $10.

I say dont worry about a laser. They are the most useless tool. Your eyes should always be on the front sight. People who get lasers often train using that as their point of aim and often never develop the proper shooting technique and gain a false sense of confidence. If she is going to hit the range regularly then it's a different story.
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08-23-2016 at 06:49 AM.
08-23-2016 at 06:49 AM.
Quote from Kabn :
i love the idea of the LCP, but i couldn't buy it because i knew i wouldn't put in the range time i do with my other carry pistols. one of my least favorite triggers ever, and the frame combined with the very low weight caused it to bite into my hand and make anything more than 2-3 mags in a row quite uncomfortable. that's why i ended up with a CW380.

all that said: i know people who swear by their LCP, and it's a must-try for anyone looking for a pocket pistol. it was the lightest .380 on the market at one point, it's crazy small, and every pistol fits everyone's hands differently, so it might be a pleasure to shoot for some.

I love my LCP Custom, but it is a bear to shoot. Really digs into my hand like you mention. But the feel, trigger pull, size, all great. I would suggest shooting a Custom model if you get the chance. Agreed that it is Not a gun for the weak, like OP mentions though.
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08-23-2016 at 07:57 AM.
08-23-2016 at 07:57 AM.
None of the little pocket 380s I've shot were fun to shoot. The Sig P238 was the nicest (and it should be, for roughly double the cost) but still not great. I have a Bodyguard 380 that I carry occasionally, but I don't get nearly as much practice with it as I do my other guns since it's not comfortable to shoot.

There are a bunch of really nice single stack 9mm carry models out now. The XDS has been my favorite, but it's mostly personal preference.

Most of the women I know that carry have revolvers, they are tough to beat when it comes to simplicity. I know one of the ladies carries a revolver because a shoulder injury makes it difficult for her to rack the slide on a semi-auto.
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Kabn
08-23-2016 at 08:46 AM.
08-23-2016 at 08:46 AM.
Quote from Novakingwai :
...Please do not get her a Taurus or Ruger. They do have some popular guns and do have proven reliability, but in a life or death situation I would NOT trust my life with those brands. They have the biggest recall and quality issues.
i have to say, this surprised me a little bit. my daily carry is an SR9c, and after probably 1,000+ rounds of varying qualities of ammo, it chews through it just as well or better than my G19, and i don't hesitate at all trusting my life to it. i have a couple range-only Ruger models that have performed the same. one of my best friends was a buyer/manager for a very large gun shop for several years, and when i got my CHL, Ruger was right under Glock and Springfield for brands he recommended for 9mm semis based on his experience and gunsmith logs, higher than S&W, Sig, and Walther. that was reinforced when i tried several out at a local range.

100% agree on trying different ones out at the range (especially when someone hasn't settled on a caliber yet), having the external safety discussion, and staying away from compact 1911s, but i'm not nearly as quick to dismiss small revolvers; a heavy trigger is an issue, but i've seen just as many people in this situation struggle to pull the slide on a compact semi, and unless it's going to be carried in a proper holster, it shouldn't have one in the chamber during EDC.
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08-23-2016 at 10:15 AM.
08-23-2016 at 10:15 AM.
Quote from Kabn :
i have to say, this surprised me a little bit. my daily carry is an SR9c, and after probably 1,000+ rounds of varying qualities of ammo, it chews through it just as well or better than my G19, and i don't hesitate at all trusting my life to it. i have a couple range-only Ruger models that have performed the same. one of my best friends was a buyer/manager for a very large gun shop for several years, and when i got my CHL, Ruger was right under Glock and Springfield for brands he recommended for 9mm semis based on his experience and gunsmith logs, higher than S&W, Sig, and Walther. that was reinforced when i tried several out at a local range.

100% agree on trying different ones out at the range (especially when someone hasn't settled on a caliber yet), having the external safety discussion, and staying away from compact 1911s, but i'm not nearly as quick to dismiss small revolvers; a heavy trigger is an issue, but i've seen just as many people in this situation struggle to pull the slide on a compact semi, and unless it's going to be carried in a proper holster, it shouldn't have one in the chamber during EDC.
Yes I agree Rugers are a good company, but again I work at a gun store and we get the most Rugers and Taurus in for repair. I would recommend spending another $100 or $200 and getting a Smith and Wesson at the minimum.

Every gun needs a good holster so there's no reason not to carry loaded in the chamber.
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08-23-2016 at 10:32 AM.
08-23-2016 at 10:32 AM.
Quote from Kabn :
i have to say, this surprised me a little bit. my daily carry is an SR9c, and after probably 1,000+ rounds of varying qualities of ammo, it chews through it just as well or better than my G19, and i don't hesitate at all trusting my life to it.
I'm not sure I would pick the SR9C for a daily carry weapon but I love mine and also haven't had a hint of a problem also with probably around 1000 rounds through it. Of course a couple of good experiences don't mean there aren't problems but I have heard a lot more horror stories about Taurus than I have Ruger.
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08-23-2016 at 10:44 AM.
08-23-2016 at 10:44 AM.
I don't follow hobby guns much, but even I've heard that Taurus is probably not a good option.
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08-23-2016 at 12:02 PM.
08-23-2016 at 12:02 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I'm not sure I would pick the SR9C for a daily carry weapon but I love mine and also haven't had a hint of a problem also with probably around 1000 rounds through it...
i started out with my G19 before going to an XDm 3.8 Compact .45, then to the SR9c (with the aforementioned CW380 and a new G42 for when i need low weight or very concealed carry). of my self-defense pistols, i'm most accurate with the SR9c, and i think it's a great mix of size/weight/capacity/reliability, especially after carrying the XDm around everywhere (love how it shoots, but it's a slide-heavy brick on the hip).
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...Every gun needs a good holster so there's no reason not to carry loaded in the chamber.
i agree, but based on the most-advertised carry options, there are many that only offer relatively soft containers in purses, and (much to my consternation) i know some women who simply carry in pockets in their purses because their wardrobes don't allow for traditional body holsters and they don't like the specialized purse options.

with this reality, i think it's worth mentioning that one in the chamber isn't a good idea unless the gun's in a proper holster so anyone reading this can avoid the practice.
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08-23-2016 at 12:49 PM.
08-23-2016 at 12:49 PM.
Quote from Kabn :
i started out with my G19 before going to an XDm 3.8 Compact .45, then to the SR9c (with the aforementioned CW380 and a new G42 for when i need low weight or very concealed carry). of my self-defense pistols, i'm most accurate with the SR9c, and i think it's a great mix of size/weight/capacity/reliability, especially after carrying the XDm around everywhere (love how it shoots, but it's a slide-heavy brick on the hip).

i agree, but based on the most-advertised carry options, there are many that only offer relatively soft containers in purses, and (much to my consternation) i know some women who simply carry in pockets in their purses because their wardrobes don't allow for traditional body holsters and they don't like the specialized purse options.

with this reality, i think it's worth mentioning that one in the chamber isn't a good idea unless the gun's in a proper holster so anyone reading this can avoid the practice.

Agreed. Just sad to see so many people more worried about their wardrobe than their personal safety.
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