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This thread is being created so people -- generally, those people who can't seem to resist talking about off-topic junk in the Target coupon thread -- have a place to talk about shopping at Target and other miscellaneous matters.

All you folks who hang out in the Target coupon thread, start hanging out here instead! When you've got something relevant to post about Target coupons, please post about it in the Target coupon thread! We'd love to hear about it, but NOT about your dog, your cat, your mom, your genital herpes, your... well, you get the idea.

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Stores confirmed to have the New Update (please add to the list):

*Ventura West (new store), CA (allows 3 of each TQ, expireds unknown)
*Highlands Ranch, CO (3 same TQ)
*South Denver, CO (3 same TQ)
*Bethel, CT
*South Windsor, CT (3 ETQS of each type)
*Denver West SuperTarget (Colfax and 6th)
*parts of DFW...
*Casselberry, Florida (17-92)
*Ankeny, IA
*Streamwood, IL (59 & Irving Park) - 1 ETQ per item
*Schaumburg, IL - SuperTarget (Schaumburg & Barrington Rd) 1 ETQ per item (5/11/08)
*Bloomingdale, IL - SuperTarget (Army Trail Rd and Schmale) 3 ETQ per item - allowed 4 current TQs (5/11/08)
* Naperville, IL - 3 ETQ per item
*Overland Park, Ks (119th & Metcalf)
*Florence, KY
*Louisville, KY (Taylorsville Rd. & Hurstbourne Pkwy.)
*Glen Burnie North, MD
*Lansing, MI (West Lansing, Saginaw St.)
*Minneapolis, MN (Lake St. & Minnehaha Ave.) - 3 ETQ per item
*Fridley, MN (694 & 65)
*Blaine, MN (65 & 109)
*Shoreview, MN (694 & Lexington)
*Edina, MN (Southdale)
*St Paul, MN (University Ave / Midway)
*West St Paul, MN (on South Robert)
*St. Peters, MO (Mid Rivers Mall drive)
*Durham, NC (3 same TQ)
*Raleigh, NC (3 same TQ)
*Manalapan, NJ (3 ETQ's)
*Toms River, NJ (3 ETQ)
*Bridgewater, NJ (3 same TQ)
*Medina, Ohio
*Tulsa, OK: Tulsa SE (71st & 169) and (21st & Yale). Tulsa Hills now updated!
*Owasso, OK (Garth Brooks' store - he, he)
*Chattanooga, TN (3 same TQ)
*Garland, Tx (near George Bush)
*Euless, TX (3 ETQ)
*Hurst, TX (3 ETQ)
*NRH, TX (3 ETQ)
*Midvale, UT (3 ETQ)
*League City, TX (3 same TQ and ETQ)
*Roanoke VA (Yes even in the boonies EEK! )
*Midlothian, Va (Forest Hill location. Only 1 ETQ allowed per transaction)
*Santa Rosa, CA
*Rohnert Park, CA (3 same TQ and ETQ)
*Cincinnati, OH (3 same TQ)


Stores confirmed to have signs up for no 5/25 toy q:
Hartford, CT area stores
Chicagoland
GA
IL
Fairfield, NJ
North Bergen, NJ
Edgewater, NJ
Gaithersburg, MD (RIO Target)
Holland, MI
Richfield MN (signs up for no pampers coupons as well)
WSP MN
TX
Houston, TX
Lubbock TX
Plano, TX (all coupon works)
Garland, TX
Independence, MO
Lee's Summit, MO
Lauderhill, FL
Panama City, FL
St. Louis, MO.. So. County store
Santa Rosa, CA
Cincinnati, OH
Lexington, KY (Reynolds Rd store only)

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07-30-2008 at 09:16 PM.
07-30-2008 at 09:16 PM.
Quote from Jen2882 :
Just wanted to jump on real quick...i'm exhausted. Anyone who sent me a pm, I will respond tommorow if I don't get to it tonight.

Did you guys hear about Caylee Anthony? The little girl who's mom didn't report her being kidnapped, missing, whatever for over a month. Today was the first day I really read about this case and it makes me sick to my stomache. I'm not going to judge the mother, that's not my place, I just hope and pray that sweet little girl is really ok. Whenever I hear about stuff like this it tears me up and makes me appreciate dd so much more. I don't think I would be able to function if anything ever happened to her.

We had our emp. picnic today! Me and dd went and it rained the entire time. We had rented a pavillion so dd kept running out of the pavillion so by the time we got home we were both soaked. lol

But my back is killing me from running after her and lack of sleep so I'm gonna go watch tv, may be back later to respond to pm's.
I watch Nancy Grace on CNN and have been following this story for a while now. There is definitely something strange going on with the mom. Did you hear cadaver dogs got a hit in her car and the grandmother's backyard a while back? I hope she'll be found alive soon, but I fear the mother will be defending a murder charge.

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I am willing to give any Power Rangers book a good home for those duplicate Border orders. :hint: :hint:

Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)


Tried to place the orders of all sizes since Friday and not once did I get past that stupid error message. No email = no confirmation. Mad
Rock go go Power Rangers Rock OMG, my son is 21 and he was into the power rangers when he was young. I spent so much money on those toys it's crazy! I can't believe them and the ninja turtles are still around!

I also have been trying for days to get a Borders order through, no luck. Giving up now, tired of trying.
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Devilmomma
07-30-2008 at 09:57 PM.
07-30-2008 at 09:57 PM.
Ok, so finally got the whole scoop on mom today. Turns out the infection was in the bone and they had to take out quite a chunk of her bone. They took out the rod and inserted a rod that antibiotics run through. She will have to keep that in for 6 weeks and then have that removed. During those 6 weeks she will need to get antibiotics through an IV. Not sure yet if she'll have to stay in the hospital for the 6 weeks or if she'll be able to come home (depends on what medical assistance she can receive). And not sure if after they take this rod out, if they'll be putting in a permanent one. I'd assume they will, so she will be out of commission another couple weeks after that.

They are trying to attack this infection pretty agressively to save the leg, that's why the IV antibiotics for 6 weeks.

Mom lives with us and watched the kiddos while I worked. I need to find care for the kiddos now, so I can get back to work. Not so easy when everyone works. Looks like my Target savings will be going for daycare now.

And to top it all of, my damn washer took a crap today!! Of course it couldn't quit after it emptied, it had to die when it was full of water!! Why do they do that?!?!
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07-30-2008 at 10:19 PM.
07-30-2008 at 10:19 PM.
Quote from teri037 :
I didn't realize the $3.00 were 992's, mine didn't beep either, thank goodness! I think I'll go see MammaMia this weekend, I'll just plug my ears if Brosnan is too badlaugh out loud
Quote from Devilmomma :
Ok, so finally got the whole scoop on mom today. Turns out the infection was in the bone and they had to take out quite a chunk of her bone. They took out the rod and inserted a rod that antibiotics run through. She will have to keep that in for 6 weeks and then have that removed. During those 6 weeks she will need to get antibiotics through an IV. Not sure yet if she'll have to stay in the hospital for the 6 weeks or if she'll be able to come home (depends on what medical assistance she can receive). And not sure if after they take this rod out, if they'll be putting in a permanent one. I'd assume they will, so she will be out of commission another couple weeks after that.

They are trying to attack this infection pretty agressively to save the leg, that's why the IV antibiotics for 6 weeks.

Mom lives with us and watched the kiddos while I worked. I need to find care for the kiddos now, so I can get back to work. Not so easy when everyone works. Looks like my Target savings will be going for daycare now.

And to top it all of, my damn washer took a crap today!! Of course it couldn't quit after it emptied, it had to die when it was full of water!! Why do they do that?!?!
hug hug very sorry to hear that about your mom, I will keep sending positive thoughts her way Comfort

I feel your pain on the washer - ours keeps going to delicate load lately after it was turned on... and it's a front loader... it gets too heavy/unbalanced... floor full of water
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07-30-2008 at 10:34 PM.
07-30-2008 at 10:34 PM.
Quote from bblueskye :
One other idea... just like the tearpads, sometimes the splenda packets happen to fall into my purse at restaurants or at starbucks... Such a strange phenomenon Wink
I confess I am guilty of this one...Teehee...It just seems that when you go to a drive thru and order an iced tea with sweetener they always forget the sweet...sooo I pull a few from a restaurant we eat at and squirrel them away in my purse/diaperbag/coupon caddy for ice tea emergencies Big Grin ( My logic: they have free refills..if I were to sit there and consume glass after glass of tea I would use those packs that I choose to **ahem** take with me Stick Out Tongue )

Double-- Yes, we have one awesome group here! Lots of good deal seekers to turn to and maybe an unbiased listener or two...If there is anything you need post it..We could have gotten you guys some diabetic cookbooks with the Borders deal...none of my orders went thru that i know of...but sumpin to keep in mind if we see any on clearance!! nod

Stormy---what a sweetie for making Sams day!! bounce
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07-30-2008 at 10:40 PM.
07-30-2008 at 10:40 PM.
Quote from TargetedbyTR2 :
I confess I am guilty of this one...Teehee...It just seems that when you go to a drive thru and order an iced tea with sweetener they always forget the sweet...sooo I pull a few from a restaurant we eat at and squirrel them away in my purse/diaperbag/coupon caddy for ice tea emergencies Big Grin ( My logic: they have free refills..if I were to sit there and consume glass after glass of tea I would use those packs that I choose to **ahem** take with me Stick Out Tongue )

Double-- Yes, we have one awesome group here! Lots of good deal seekers to turn to and maybe an unbiased listener or two...If there is anything you need post it..We could have gotten you guys some diabetic cookbooks with the Borders deal...none of my orders went thru that i know of...but sumpin to keep in mind if we see any on clearance!! nod

Stormy---what a sweetie for making Sams day!! bounce
I do the same thing for those little square packages of wipes. With small kids, you can never have enough...

It's amazing how much support you get when posting your needs on a public board. I got a few offers from people tonight to go shopping with me tomorrow. Big Grin:

Too bad, they are not in my town...
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07-30-2008 at 10:51 PM.
07-30-2008 at 10:51 PM.
Quote from schnauzermomma :
Hey, PM me your addy and I'll RAOK you some. heart
heart heart TY!

Quote from mamaoftwins2 :
were you looking for the huggies $1 cpns some time back...
It was she. I think I found a few to send her but not enough I wanted to send her lots more.
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I need:
$1 huggies bath and body
Desitin
pampers .50 cent wipes
huggies .50 cent wipes
purina free healthful life cat food
The others she was looking for, she is awesome. I hope she doesn't get mad at me for sharing her list. hug

Quote from Devilmomma :
Ok, so finally got the whole scoop on mom today.
They are trying to attack this infection pretty agressively to save the leg, that's why the IV antibiotics for 6 weeks.
Looks like my Target savings will be going for daycare now.

And to top it all of, my damn washer took a crap today!! Of course it couldn't quit after it emptied, it had to die when it was full of water!! Why do they do that?!?!
hug hug Pray for your mom. My mom had to have IV antibiotics for about 6 weeks last year too, they tried sending her home but she got a lot worse, she puffed up, they should have listened when she told them how red it was getting instead of putting her off for two more days. She had to go back and spend a month 1/2 @ the hospital.

Quote from thuctrang :
I do the same thing for those little square packages of wipes. With small kids, you can never have enough...

It's amazing how much support you get when posting your needs on a public board. I got a few offers from people tonight to go shopping with me tomorrow. Big Grin:

Too bad, they are not in my town...
I would go with you too but we are way to far apart.
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07-30-2008 at 10:54 PM.
07-30-2008 at 10:54 PM.
Quote from thuctrang :



I went through a fast-food drive-thru today, and almost said this,

"I have a Q for my order." Big Grin That's the SDer in me talking, but I caught myself in time.

EEK!
LMAO DH and I were in the car the other day, he was trying to point out something in the convertable next to us................I finally said, "OH! You mean the HANGTAG?..........she had a little sign hanging from her rearview mirror! After he gave me a look and I explained (as I was wiping my tears away realizing what I had said) he called me a freak!!LMAO LMAO
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07-30-2008 at 11:22 PM.
07-30-2008 at 11:22 PM.
Quote from sillygeese :
OMG, I finally got past the last order button, and it says my order requires further processing and I would get an order comfimation,so we will see!

I am triing to get my q's together for a Target run tomorrow, have to get up early and take my car in for warranty work but will get to run around in a loaner car, Yippee,

How many bottles of Johnsons baby wash is too many?
The couple I got that message on cancelled within 4 hours(and they were the ones I thought WOW..I got thru!!)...Sadwalk...just checked the pending charges and one set fell off today..so no go on that one..still 3 or 4 still out there that might materialize...no shipping notifications/calls for pick ups yet...Pray I get sumpin out of this deal besides gray hairs and carpal tunnel...laugh out loud vomit
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shop247mom
07-30-2008 at 11:47 PM.
07-30-2008 at 11:47 PM.
Has anyone that didn't get a confirmation email from borders, but yet have pending charges check your order status? I have a paypal charge that actually says completed when you click on details, and a amex gc charge for same order. First time I got a message saying to check the payment info, so I assumed that since this order was under DHs name & email, that my paypal card must be to blame since the name doesn't match, so I did it again w/ my amex gc! Almost did it again when I got the same message before I thought to check the account balances on both! Anyway, when I checked my order status on borders, it said I had never placed an order on that account. Wondering if that's what everyone else's is saying.
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calliebritt
07-30-2008 at 11:54 PM.
07-30-2008 at 11:54 PM.
Quote from teri037 :
I had to read "In A Napping House" 8,462 freakin times! And then....I had to read it some more in the Pop Up versionlaugh out loud
oh my that was one book i had to come up with a lessonplan for student teaching. loved that book. made a felt board with the bed and all the people piled up and then the bed broke. ahhh memories!!
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I went through a fast-food drive-thru today, and almost said this,

"I have a Q for my order." Big Grin That's the SDer in me talking, but I caught myself in time.

EEK!
i did have a coupon today!!! free fries at wing stop. OMG the best fries ever!!!

Quote from Bronc :

Has anyone else encountered problems with the wording of the Land O' Frost coupon? It says "No Doubling", and I have been refused at the SuperTarget from Hell and a nearby Hell-Mart. They said I could only use one coupon per purchase, and that it meant per transaction too. No matter that I was using two coupons on two items - they interpreted that as doubling. I tried to explain that doubling a coupon meant doubling its value but the GSTL or LOD or whomever got quite nasty and rude with me, cutting me off with a sharp "SIR!"... meaning I was to hush.(It didn't work.) I never raised my voice, and I had to give up even though I KNOW that's not what the coupon means. I complained about this woman to the store manager, who agreed with her interpretation of doubling. I told her I still wanted her called out on her rudeness. I'd complain to corporate, but they've heard enough from me about this particular ST. I swear the only time I'll go there is when I have coupons for free items, just to chap their @$$!
maybe you should tape record them and play it back so they can hear how stupid they sound!!

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Some more ideas for favorite children's books:

Little Critter books
How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight?
How Do Dinosaurs Play with Their Friends?
I Love You Forever
Shhh, Everybody's Sleeping
Bath Books (the ones that can go in the tub)
Where the Wild Things Are
Daddy Kisses
Are You My Mother?
Good Night Moon Board Book (of course!)
Runaway Bunny
oh and I love you forever ~ my favorite book of all time!!!! until i started teaching jr high and high school this year, i would read this book the first day of school every year. this will be my second year not reading it out loud. Sadwalk i still have the book on my shelf though. and one at home with dd. if you don't have this book for your little ones ~ you've just gotta. go pay full price!! and the giving tree. can't live without reading these two books!!

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wave Ro! This has been the summer for free movies! I still have to go see MammaMia.
i was going to go see it but heard it wasn't good for kiddos and mine is 10 and she wants to see it soooo bad. so we saw journey to the center of the earth on ponds instead. good one!!

Quote from SLickCate :
I've seen Mamma Mia twice, it's pretty fun! I had to see it since I've seen the stage production a few times, and it's always a lot of fun. It's kind of a cheesy story, but great music. Meryl Streep sure can sing. Pierce Brosnan is horrible (his singing!), but it's fun seeing him in a role like this. And I just love Colin Firth. If you like Abba music, definitely go see it. You will just want to get up and dance. And don't leave before the credits finish. don't want to miss the encore!
that's what i heard about pierce, horrible singing but worth it to watch him!!

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I watch Nancy Grace on CNN and have been following this story for a while now. There is definitely something strange going on with the mom. Did you hear cadaver dogs got a hit in her car and the grandmother's backyard a while back? I hope she'll be found alive soon, but I fear the mother will be defending a murder charge.
i've been watching nancy every night. this story just gets more bizarre every night. did you see her smiling in court and partying while conducting her own investigation??

Quote from shop247mom :
LMAO DH and I were in the car the other day, he was trying to point out something in the convertable next to us................I finally said, "OH! You mean the HANGTAG?..........she had a little sign hanging from her rearview mirror! After he gave me a look and I explained (as I was wiping my tears away realizing what I had said) he called me a freak!!LMAO LMAO
too funny!

and thanks everyone for the thoughts and prayers. sending some out to everyone too!!
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07-31-2008 at 12:46 AM.
07-31-2008 at 12:46 AM.
Quote from Devilmomma :
Ok, so finally got the whole scoop on mom today. Turns out the infection was in the bone and they had to take out quite a chunk of her bone. They took out the rod and inserted a rod that antibiotics run through. She will have to keep that in for 6 weeks and then have that removed. During those 6 weeks she will need to get antibiotics through an IV. Not sure yet if she'll have to stay in the hospital for the 6 weeks or if she'll be able to come home (depends on what medical assistance she can receive). And not sure if after they take this rod out, if they'll be putting in a permanent one. I'd assume they will, so she will be out of commission another couple weeks after that.

They are trying to attack this infection pretty agressively to save the leg, that's why the IV antibiotics for 6 weeks.

Mom lives with us and watched the kiddos while I worked. I need to find care for the kiddos now, so I can get back to work. Not so easy when everyone works. Looks like my Target savings will be going for daycare now.

And to top it all of, my damn washer took a crap today!! Of course it couldn't quit after it emptied, it had to die when it was full of water!! Why do they do that?!?!

I'll keep your mom in my prayers devilmomma... hug Hope everything will be better for her soon... heart
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07-31-2008 at 01:58 AM.
07-31-2008 at 01:58 AM.
Ok all, I have a question. Has anyone done the boxes of Papmers that are getting clearanced with the Q's recently? I know we talked about this before in the deals thread, and ppl reported them beeping, but I know that I bought the boxes before without any beeps and I used all Q's involved. I was just wondering if anyone has done the boxes in the last week or so and if you are getting beeps recently. If so, which Q beeps?

TIA heart
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07-31-2008 at 03:09 AM.
07-31-2008 at 03:09 AM.
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I used several of the $3 Olay Definity 992 coupons on the body wash twin packs, and they did not beep. I had expected them to beep, and was very surprised when they didn't. It was beepless on these at both my stores last week.



I've seen Mamma Mia twice, it's pretty fun! I had to see it since I've seen the stage production a few times, and it's always a lot of fun. It's kind of a cheesy story, but great music. Meryl Streep sure can sing. Pierce Brosnan is horrible (his singing!), but it's fun seeing him in a role like this. And I just love Colin Firth. If you like Abba music, definitely go see it. You will just want to get up and dance. And don't leave before the credits finish. don't want to miss the encore!
Thanks for the detailed review! Guess I'll have to check it out. Can I say that I'm in LOVE with the $3 OLay Q's as the Olay bodywash 2-pack specials were clearanced to $3.15 yesterday! WOOHOO! Yahoo!

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Ok, so finally got the whole scoop on mom today. Turns out the infection was in the bone and they had to take out quite a chunk of her bone. They took out the rod and inserted a rod that antibiotics run through. She will have to keep that in for 6 weeks and then have that removed. During those 6 weeks she will need to get antibiotics through an IV. Not sure yet if she'll have to stay in the hospital for the 6 weeks or if she'll be able to come home (depends on what medical assistance she can receive). And not sure if after they take this rod out, if they'll be putting in a permanent one. I'd assume they will, so she will be out of commission another couple weeks after that.

They are trying to attack this infection pretty agressively to save the leg, that's why the IV antibiotics for 6 weeks.

Mom lives with us and watched the kiddos while I worked. I need to find care for the kiddos now, so I can get back to work. Not so easy when everyone works. Looks like my Target savings will be going for daycare now.

And to top it all of, my damn washer took a crap today!! Of course it couldn't quit after it emptied, it had to die when it was full of water!! Why do they do that?!?!

Awww, DM, Grouphug When it Rain it pours, doesn't it......
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07-31-2008 at 05:13 AM.
07-31-2008 at 05:13 AM.
OK, I'm trying to plan a "quick" run today to use up a few coupons and was wondering about the Lysol Neutra-Air. I haven't used that one yet - does it work on ANY Lysol, or just air fresheners? Can someone PM me please who has used it? Does it auto-adjust?

I have lots of Qs to use up, but think I'm just gonna focus on diapers and a couple others. I'm kinda sick of shopping!!! EEK! Crazy how that happens sometimes. I think I need a day or two off, get myself regrouped, and then be ready for the deals next week. Smilie

Sorry to hear about your mom, dm. Praying she does better and exceeds expectations.

What is it about appliances breaking down right in the middle of their cycle?! Once had a dryer have the motor blow just after I turned it on. So ... small house, no laundry line outside, what to do with a HUGE load of sopping wet clothes?! shake head

Off to fix breakfast - blueberry pancakes, with blueberries compliments of Harris Teeter 4/$6 yesterday! Big Grin
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07-31-2008 at 06:33 AM.
07-31-2008 at 06:33 AM.
Quote from mamaoftwins2 :
orders have been shipped even without confirmation...so you still have hope
I had 2 orders ship today that I didnt go through, no confirmation previously,but they shipped today
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