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Huawei does not honor its warranties

8,151 1,819 January 27, 2017 at 06:30 AM in Tech & Electronics (4)
I have an Honor 5x. I sent it in for repair of two issues (that I had documented to them with pictures) in mid Dec. With no explanation (even after I requested one) they fixed only one issue and sent it back. The other issue is a very strong image ghosting on all dark screens. Everything on the homescreen --icons, google search bar, wallpaper--shows up on the dark screens, like Notifications. When asked why it wasn't fixed, I never heard from the service dept. Every agent I spoke with agreed it was an issue and the phone should have been replaced. But a supervisor claims it is not an issue, so I'm just supposed to accept that.

A couple days after getting the phone back, I started having serious dropped calls issues. Then proximity sensor issues. I strongly suspect that their service dept may have caused these issues when they had my phone. I never had them before that. An agent told me they were starting another RMA after they saw my file and saw all the lies I'd been told and apologized. They said they were sure the phone would be replaced with a new one. I received the RMA emails and was told the shipping label would be arriving within 48 hours. It never came. I waited through the following weekend and went on their chat, because for some reason whenever I called them (on two different phones, one a google voice) it said their number wasn't working. The agent in chat thought what I was going through was awful and that he would escalate it again. Again I heard nothing and got no label. I contacted them 2 days later and got more of the same, only this time the supervisor tried to blame the dropped calls on my provider. She said to email her the signal strengh of the phone (something we could have done while we were talking). It turned out to be just another stall tactic since I never heard from anyone again.

This kind of runaround had already been going on for over 5 weeks. Each time an agent promised an admin (4 separate times) would be calling me within 48 hours and each time they left me hanging. When I finally got one on the phone (I had to use a friend's phone, indicating they had actually blocked my numbers. I still can't call them with my phones, btw), I found they had cancelled the RMA "for approval" without notifying me. They are focusing on the ghosting issue, which they still insist is not an issue, and when I brought up the other issues --dropped calls and proximity sensor--they had no answer and just said they are not replacing my phone. And that was it. My warranty is still in effect until July, for whatever it's worth.

I intend on filing with the BBB and any other agency I think might put pressure on them. Apparently they realized I wasn't accepting their BS and tried to block me from communicating with them. What kind of company treats their customers this way? Aren't they legally obligated to address my phone's issues, especially if they may have caused a couple of them?

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01-29-2017 at 01:07 PM.
01-29-2017 at 01:07 PM.
LOL.....someone complaining about bad customer service from a Chinese company is like complaining about their fries being fattening while chomping on a large order of fries!

Sorry, but Chinese ppl are NOT known for good customer service! That's not racism because I'm Asian. It's just how it is.....hence, if you ever go to Chinatown or any Chinese store, don't expect a good exchange/return policy. It'll never happen! They'll laugh in your face!Stick Out Tongue
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01-29-2017 at 03:02 PM.
01-29-2017 at 03:02 PM.
Quote from z2g :
LOL.....someone complaining about bad customer service from a Chinese company is like complaining about their fries being fattening while chomping on a large order of fries!

Sorry, but Chinese ppl are NOT known for good customer service! That's not racism because I'm Asian. It's just how it is.....hence, if you ever go to Chinatown or any Chinese store, don't expect a good exchange/return policy. It'll never happen! They'll laugh in your face!Stick Out Tongue
You have offended me, my family, and you have offended the Shaolin temple.
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01-30-2017 at 06:17 AM.
01-30-2017 at 06:17 AM.
Quote from waitingfortonight :
Not surprised on this. Chinese companies are usually like this. I had one in which you had to go the their main office in order get a refund. Or you have to wait a couple of weeks to get your money back.
The thing is, most people don't buy their phones directly from them. I bought mine from Amazon. It is long past the 1 month return policy. Amazon didn't do anything wrong, so there is no one to refund my money. Besides, I want it fixed, not a refund.
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01-30-2017 at 06:20 AM.
01-30-2017 at 06:20 AM.
Quote from z2g :
LOL.....someone complaining about bad customer service from a Chinese company is like complaining about their fries being fattening while chomping on a large order of fries!

Sorry, but Chinese ppl are NOT known for good customer service! That's not racism because I'm Asian. It's just how it is.....hence, if you ever go to Chinatown or any Chinese store, don't expect a good exchange/return policy. It'll never happen! They'll laugh in your face!Stick Out Tongue
The US branch of this company is in Texas. No one I've spoken to seemed to be Asian. Not that I can always tell over the phone, of course, but those were not the accents I heard. However, there are laws involved here. I'm just not sure how to get them enforced. I have a written warranty.
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01-30-2017 at 08:13 AM.
01-30-2017 at 08:13 AM.
Quote from deserthawk :
The US branch of this company is in Texas. No one I've spoken to seemed to be Asian. Not that I can always tell over the phone, of course, but those were not the accents I heard. However, there are laws involved here. I'm just not sure how to get them enforced. I have a written warranty.
Sure, the call center may be in the U.S. And, they must abide by US laws. However, they can sure make it difficult for you to initiate a claim under their warranty, right? Or, they can claim the warranty doesn't apply to your issue.

Hence, how the company values customer loyalty and customer service will trickle down to all facets of the company's dealings with both their partners, vendors, and customers.
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01-30-2017 at 08:25 AM.
01-30-2017 at 08:25 AM.
Quote from z2g :
Sure, the call center may be in the U.S. And, they must abide by US laws. However, they can sure make it difficult for you to initiate a claim under their warranty, right? Or, they can claim the warranty doesn't apply to your issue.

Hence, how the company values customer loyalty and customer service will trickle down to all facets of the company's dealings with both their partners, vendors, and customers.
Agreed. They have no right telling me that an obvious issue is "normal", especially when I've talked to a number of Honor 5x owners who all say they don't have the issue. And they have no right to repeatedly stall me, then set up an RMA, only to cancel it without even informing me. They certainly have no right to block my phone numbers.

However their repair center (and I presume offices) is in Texas. Their call center is in California. I'm not sure how to proceed with this. I plan to file a report with the BBB, so I guess that would be in Texas. I'm trying to figure out what agency or commission governs companies like this.
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01-30-2017 at 08:45 AM.
01-30-2017 at 08:45 AM.
If you bought it with a credit card, you also have the extended warranty coverage. Have you tried contacting your credit card issuer for help, perhaps chargeback?
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01-30-2017 at 12:19 PM.
01-30-2017 at 12:19 PM.
Quote from deserthawk :
Agreed. They have no right telling me that an obvious issue is "normal", especially when I've talked to a number of Honor 5x owners who all say they don't have the issue. And they have no right to repeatedly stall me, then set up an RMA, only to cancel it without even informing me. They certainly have no right to block my phone numbers.

However their repair center (and I presume offices) is in Texas. Their call center is in California. I'm not sure how to proceed with this. I plan to file a report with the BBB, so I guess that would be in Texas. I'm trying to figure out what agency or commission governs companies like this.
Well, they do have the "right" to call whatever is considered "normal" issues and wear-and-tear. Consumers' only "rights" are usually within the state's contracts laws and "warranty of merchantability" laws. As far as the "right" to block your phone number, I'm pretty sure there are no such laws that prohibit such acts from businesses. Sure, it's bad customer service but NOT illegal.....only if it's based on race, color, creed, sex, age, etc.

For example, Toyota Prius's have an oil burning issue. After about 75k miles, they ALL burn oil. The company, however, considers up to 1 qt of oil burned per month as "normal". The warranty won't cover it and no one has considered filing a class action lawsuit because the likelihood of winning is low since it's not a major issue that affects public safety.

You can file with the BBB but they have zero power to do anything. Your only recourse would be small claims court....but good luck with that one! Regarding the fact that you're the only one with your issue, that actually plays against you. If it's a common issue, there's more chance that it'll be addressed.

Good luck to you though.
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01-30-2017 at 03:55 PM.
01-30-2017 at 03:55 PM.
Quote from z2g :
Well, they do have the "right" to call whatever is considered "normal" issues and wear-and-tear. Consumers' only "rights" are usually within the state's contracts laws and "warranty of merchantability" laws. As far as the "right" to block your phone number, I'm pretty sure there are no such laws that prohibit such acts from businesses. Sure, it's bad customer service but NOT illegal.....only if it's based on race, color, creed, sex, age, etc.

For example, Toyota Prius's have an oil burning issue. After about 75k miles, they ALL burn oil. The company, however, considers up to 1 qt of oil burned per month as "normal". The warranty won't cover it and no one has considered filing a class action lawsuit because the likelihood of winning is low since it's not a major issue that affects public safety.

You can file with the BBB but they have zero power to do anything. Your only recourse would be small claims court....but good luck with that one! Regarding the fact that you're the only one with your issue, that actually plays against you. If it's a common issue, there's more chance that it'll be addressed.

Good luck to you though.
Thanks. Apparently, the Honor 5x they use on their floor has the same issue. And, according to them, so does their Honor 8. That's what they are basing it on --that since theirs has it, it must not be an issue. I told them that all that means is that theirs is faulty too. I have gone on the XDA forum for the 5x and asked if anyone had this issue. Only a few responded, but all said they didn't. I also asked some people on SD who own one the same question. They all said theirs doesn't. Meanwhile, they are ignoring the other issues my phone now has, mainly the proximity sensor. That alone should be reason for warranty work.
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01-30-2017 at 04:01 PM.
01-30-2017 at 04:01 PM.
Quote from Foreveryours :
If you bought it with a credit card, you also have the extended warranty coverage. Have you tried contacting your credit card issuer for help, perhaps chargeback?
Yes, I've contacted them. For one thing, as I said, I bought it from Amazon, not Huawei. Also, the extended warranty only starts when the original one ends. Also, and the rep at Discover wasn't sure about this: when I bought it from Amazon, I already had about $30 in courtesy credits in my Amazon acct. If you know how they work, they make you pay using the credits first by default. There is no way around it. So, I didn't buy the phone 100% with the Discover Card, although not by choice.

She told me she was establishing some sort of in house dispute, which might be something like you mentioned. However, I can't imagine them giving me more than I spent with my card, which was $98. I got it on Prime Day, so I paid a total of $129. And to replace the phone would cost at least $160, and that's on sale. It's on sale for that price now, btw.

I think I'm going to revert it back to 5.1 and see if that solves the issues. The ghosting issue arose about 2 weeks after I got the update. The proximity sensor issues arose soon after I got it back from Huawei after they "repaired" it. Talk about irony: they are refusing to repair a phone that they may have damaged.

Huawei is a huge company. It's not like they can't afford to replace the phone.
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01-31-2017 at 08:29 AM.
01-31-2017 at 08:29 AM.
Stop buying cheap no-name Chinese junk. Probably has extra built in spyware too.
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01-31-2017 at 11:51 AM.
01-31-2017 at 11:51 AM.
Dontknow Google is sending me a replacement Nexus 6P right now because my phone is suffering from the this issue [google.com]. Wasn't that hard... maybe because I'm a Fi subscriber? Think I was after the 1 yr mfg warranty too but that's what they're replacing it under...
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01-31-2017 at 12:59 PM.
01-31-2017 at 12:59 PM.
Quote from deserthawk :
Yes, I've contacted them. For one thing, as I said, I bought it from Amazon, not Huawei. Also, the extended warranty only starts when the original one ends. Also, and the rep at Discover wasn't sure about this: when I bought it from Amazon, I already had about $30 in courtesy credits in my Amazon acct. If you know how they work, they make you pay using the credits first by default. There is no way around it. So, I didn't buy the phone 100% with the Discover Card, although not by choice.

She told me she was establishing some sort of in house dispute, which might be something like you mentioned. However, I can't imagine them giving me more than I spent with my card, which was $98. I got it on Prime Day, so I paid a total of $129. And to replace the phone would cost at least $160, and that's on sale. It's on sale for that price now, btw.

I think I'm going to revert it back to 5.1 and see if that solves the issues. The ghosting issue arose about 2 weeks after I got the update. The proximity sensor issues arose soon after I got it back from Huawei after they "repaired" it. Talk about irony: they are refusing to repair a phone that they may have damaged.

Huawei is a huge company. It's not like they can't afford to replace the phone.
The fact that part of the purchase was made with Amazon GC may pose a problem for you with regards to the CC extended warranty program. Because, as stated in the CC reward rules, the entire purchase price must be paid with the CC.

So, I don't know how they're going to handle it. Also, you have to submit the warranty card/info to the CC when you file a claim under the CC extended warranty program. If there's no warranty card and/or warranty info with your purchase, I have no idea how they'll handle this!
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01-31-2017 at 01:55 PM.
01-31-2017 at 01:55 PM.
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The fact that part of the purchase was made with Amazon GC may pose a problem for you with regards to the CC extended warranty program. Because, as stated in the CC reward rules, the entire purchase price must be paid with the CC.

So, I don't know how they're going to handle it. Also, you have to submit the warranty card/info to the CC when you file a claim under the CC extended warranty program. If there's no warranty card and/or warranty info with your purchase, I have no idea how they'll handle this!
I mentioned how I bought it to the CSR at Discover and she didn't know either. I never talked to anyone in the proper dept for warranties, which I think is Benefits. I think she said they'd contact me, but nothing so far. Maybe it's time to call again.

I only know one thing for sure: I don't care how nice or what a good value a Huawei phone is, I'd never buy another, unless I was going to root it and void the warranty anyway.
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02-08-2017 at 07:04 AM.
02-08-2017 at 07:04 AM.
Hmm sorry that you are going through this. I was actually thinking of getting a huawei smartwatch with the sales going on but your post makes me hesitant.. I have dealt with problematic warranty places before but this is pretty crazy.

Btw- if the extended warranty doesn't work, have you tried to file a repair claim with discover also? This also might only occur after the warranty expires, but something to take a look at.

Also try posting at huawei's social pages- that seems to get them to respond at times.

hope it all works well for you.
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