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Tesla Full Self Driving (FSD) Supervised now only $8,000

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Tesla has lowered the price of Full Self Driving to $8,000 or $99 a month.

Those who have EAP can upgrade to FSD for $2,000.

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04-20-2024 at 09:49 PM.

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Unless you're going to keep the car for at least 7 years, the real deal here is the $99 subscription. Nobody should pay $8000 upfront
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04-20-2024 at 09:52 PM.
04-20-2024 at 09:52 PM.
Misleading. It is not "Full Self-Driving", but "Full Self-Driving Capability" instead or Supervised Full Self-Driving or "Full Self-Driving (Supervised)" or Try It and You Will Pee in Your Pants Eventually
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04-20-2024 at 09:52 PM.
04-20-2024 at 09:52 PM.
Quote from huge :
Unless you're going to keep the car for at least 7 years, the real deal here is the $99 subscription. Nobody should pay $8000 upfront
Yup - and I don't have a Tesla but I don't believe it transfers to other cars if you buy/sell either.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/12...nth-in-us/

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04-20-2024 at 09:56 PM.
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Misleading. It is not "Full Self-Driving", but "Full Self-Driving Capability" instead or Supervised Full Self-Driving or "Full Self-Driving (Supervised)" or Try It and You Will Pee in Your Pants Eventually
They've been misleading people much worse than this.
Tesla had on their website 'FSD coming by the end of the year' in 2019. Obviously they took it down, but they're 5 years behind that statement that had people wasting thousands of dollars for something that was promises but they never got to use
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Yup - and I don't have a Tesla but I don't believe it transfers to other cars if you buy/sell either.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/12...nth-in-us/

Tesla occasionally let FSD owners to transfer FSD to a new Tesla vehicle
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04-20-2024 at 10:02 PM.
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Tesla occasionally let FSD owners to transfer FSD to a new Tesla vehicle
I didn't realize that - ty. Is it random when they do?
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I didn't realize that - ty. Is it random when they do?
Yes. Usually at the end of the quarter when they need to boost sales
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04-21-2024 at 01:08 AM.
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Literally was 12k yesterday, those who paid 12k or 15k Tesla got them again.
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This is a gimmick feature. Had the trial and only used it for a few days. I prefer AP over FSD.
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04-21-2024 at 02:24 AM.
04-21-2024 at 02:24 AM.
Quote from huge :
Unless you're going to keep the car for at least 7 years, the real deal here is the $99 subscription. Nobody should pay $8000 upfront
the math changes if the sub price goes back up to $200 of course. given Tesla price volatility the chance to lock in at the lowest ever price becomes a bit more enticing.
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04-21-2024 at 02:30 AM.
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Quote from Eragorn :
Yup - and I don't have a Tesla but I don't believe it transfers to other cars if you buy/sell either.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/12...nth-in-us/

That's correct. My Tesla got into an accident was totaled just in 6months of ownership. This was when you had to be inducted into beta program of fsd.
Never got that and still had paid $10K in the hype.
So essentially I paid for something that was never delivered!!!!

And because the car was totaled it was not transferred to the new Tesla I purchased.
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04-21-2024 at 03:22 AM.
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Literally was 12k yesterday, those who paid 12k or 15k Tesla got them again.
Tesla is "getting better", in that it was all over the news that the price was going to be offered for much cheaper or monthly subs. And if you followed the forums, you likely knew about it ~6 weeks earlier.

While the monthly is cheaper, and likely a more wise purchase to try it out, unless there is verbiage that you're "locked-in" to that monthly price, you shouldn't have your blinders on and not think it's going to be more expensive later.

I see 2 main reasons why they're offering for cheaper

1. To get more adoption to see how nice (addictive) it can be. The "supervised" it just legal-speak to avoid lawsuits. As the "beta" could legally be used that you know you always have to have your hand on the wheel, your eyes on the road, et al. Sure, people found hacks to avoid that, but being 'beta' you/they signed docs agreeing/understanding a lot of that, so good luck in court.

2. While Tesla is FAAAAAR beyond the next closest competitor when it comes to FSD, gov't/municipalities likely are balking and have requested "more data" to prove out efficacy before they put their signature on allowing FSD in their domain. It's also why Tesla has plans to buy $2B+ in NVDA/AMD chips to analyze that data and make it ... acceptable...to the gov't pencil pushers.

FSD version 12.3.x has been a major betterment over even 12.2 and huge over previous major version releases. It isn't perfect, so while many expect our future robot overlords to never mess up, the # of scenarios is mind boggling and data is necessary to see how best to react to each. Understandably, folks want it to be relatively faultless., The good thing is that it also (likely) means they are closer to states/municipalities allowing it on their roads. And I hate to say it, but which person wins the presidency will also likely have an impact as to the adoption timeline as well.

So, don't go in blindly if you opt for monthly, and just expect it'll increase with little notice. Just like Netflix, your cable bill, etc. However, unless Tesla comes up with a semi-reasonable policy on transferring FSD to a replacement vehicle, the new monthly option will be the way to go. I think their (somewhat misguided) mindset is that their vehicle is expected to last 300-500k miles (higher if you ask fanboys). And if you can (eventually) use your car as a robotaxi while at work, spending the $$ on FSD will be well worth it.

As, even "minor' accidents are pricey, as people well-know if having a fancy car with loads of cameras hidden behind bumpers,et al. EVs just take that to a whole new level. So w/o a much better transference policy, it'd be really hard to justify the up-front lump sum on FSD.
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04-21-2024 at 03:52 AM.
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Quote from hanabie :
This is a gimmick feature. Had the trial and only used it for a few days. I prefer AP over FSD.
100% agree. Turning FSD on is like taking your 16-year-old on their first driving lesson. How can you relax when you have an incompetent in control?
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Is enhanced autopilot standard now?
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