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$599 10 day China Tour from LAX/ORD/Seattle ALL INCLUSIVE @TravelZoo

$499.00
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EDIT: Corrected title to include mandatory $100 fee

Saw this travelzoo post [travelzoo.com] that led to this link:
http://www.nexusholidays.com/inde...2/t/rtcnew

$499 on select dates from LAX/ORD/Seattle (based on double occupancy)
$649 from SFO, SJC, and Boston
Other dates available more more $$$

$499 dates: Nov. 2, 7, 23, 30 (2017); Jan. 9, 23, 30; Nov. 6, 15, 20, 22, 27 (2018)

Pretty good deal consider RT tickets from these cities on those dates are over $600 easily. 10 year unlimited Visas are $140 if you get it yourself, $190 if they get it for you apparently?

Cities include:
Beijing - Shanghai - Suzhou - Hangzhou – Wuxi

Does not include $100 mandatory driver tip <---lol
Does not include visa fee

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This exclusive deal for Travelzoo members is so hot we're going to get straight to it.
For $499 per person with tax (based on double occupancy), you can fly to China, tour five cities in eight nights and walk on the Great Wall. If you haven't already picked up the phone to book, here's a list of everything that's included:
Roundtrip international airfare from Los Angeles and domestic flights
Accommodations for eight nights in well-reviewed 4- and 4.5-star hotels
Stays in Beijing, Suzhou, Wuxi, Hangzhou and Shanghai
Sightseeing tours, including the Great Wall, Lingshan Grand Buddha and Shanghai Museum
All transfers and ground transportation
16 meals, including traditional local dishes such as Peking duck and Wuxi ribs
Professional English-speaking guide
All air taxes and fees
Travel dates & pricing:
Depart on Nov. 2, 7, 23, 30 (2017); Jan. 9, 23, 30; Nov. 6, 15, 20, 22, 27 (2018). Depart on Feb. 1 for $599. Surrounding dates from October 2017 through March 2018 are $649 per person, including tax.
Note: Driver gratuity of $100 per person is not included in the price and will be paid at time of booking. The mandatory Chinese visa fee of $190 per person is also not included. Solo travelers pay a single supplement fee of $380. There will be stops along the way to visit local businesses and shops; you aren't obligated to purchase anything. Please see trip itinerary for details
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Immacoolguy
06-02-2017 at 02:54 PM.
06-02-2017 at 02:54 PM.
So $789? ($499 + $100 mandatory "tip" + $190 visa). Still probably a good deal.
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apang
06-02-2017 at 02:54 PM.
06-02-2017 at 02:54 PM.
"There will be stops along the way to visit local businesses and shops; you aren't obligated to purchase anything. Please see trip itinerary for details". This will take up 1/2 of your trip.. as they try to sell you fake pearls and jewelry.
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XiDa
06-02-2017 at 02:57 PM.
06-02-2017 at 02:57 PM.
Quote from Immacoolguy :
So $789? ($499 + $100 mandatory "tip" + $190 visa). Still probably a good deal.
The visa lasts for 10 years unlimited visit I believe?
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06-02-2017 at 03:01 PM.
06-02-2017 at 03:01 PM.
Quote from apang :
"There will be stops along the way to visit local businesses and shops; you aren't obligated to purchase anything. Please see trip itinerary for details". This will take up 1/2 of your trip.. as they try to sell you fake pearls and jewelry.
That's a standard for most tours though, all the "touristy" spots will have shops/vendors on the streets selling stuff. The Chinese are just a little more aggressive... Though I think this has fixed it now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWyCxDjBB60
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Mr.Le
06-02-2017 at 03:14 PM.
06-02-2017 at 03:14 PM.
$190 visa. That is one expensive visa and i don't care if it's good for 10yrs. most likely not going back within 10yrs. but who knows.
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06-02-2017 at 03:20 PM.
06-02-2017 at 03:20 PM.
Quote from Mr.Le :
$190 visa. That is one expensive visa and i don't care if it's good for 10yrs. most likely not going back within 10yrs. but who knows.
If you get it yourself I think it's only $140.
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Ivanist
06-02-2017 at 03:20 PM.
06-02-2017 at 03:20 PM.
Don't bother with the tour. You'll spend half if not 3/4 of your time visiting local businesses instead of taking you to the scenery or historical places...

This is one where you get what you pay for.
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spliffgates
06-02-2017 at 03:24 PM.
06-02-2017 at 03:24 PM.
Does anyone know if you have to go on the tours or if you can skip them and venture off on your own?
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dillonfi
06-02-2017 at 04:00 PM.
06-02-2017 at 04:00 PM.
Quote from spliffgates :
Does anyone know if you have to go on the tours or if you can skip them and venture off on your own?
The website says "Several shopping excursions are arranged during the tours. A minimum amount of time (60 mins) must be spent at each shopping site. However, there is no obligation to purchase anything. For those who are not very keen on shopping, visits to shopping sites should be treated as cultural learning experiences as well the products including jade, silk, tea, etc. are deeply ingrained in the Chinese culture and well worth learning."
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06-02-2017 at 04:01 PM.
06-02-2017 at 04:01 PM.
Quote from dillonfinger :
The website says "Several shopping excursions are arranged during the tours. A minimum amount of time (60 mins) must be spent at each shopping site. However, there is no obligation to purchase anything. For those who are not very keen on shopping, visits to shopping sites should be treated as cultural learning experiences as well the products including jade, silk, tea, etc. are deeply ingrained in the Chinese culture and well worth learning."
I think he means if he can just skip some parts of the tour all together. Not just the shop visits.

Edit: But I guess if they're forcing you to spend time at shopping sites, the answer is no?
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BaconCommando
06-02-2017 at 04:12 PM.
06-02-2017 at 04:12 PM.
I've been to these tours before. don't bother. you'll stop by local businesses trying to sell you $150 tea bags.
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bl300
06-02-2017 at 04:20 PM.
06-02-2017 at 04:20 PM.
Quote from Mr.Le :
$190 visa. That is one expensive visa and i don't care if it's good for 10yrs. most likely not going back within 10yrs. but who knows.
I don't think it's the Chinese's fault. The US government charges that much for Chinese to visit US. So the Chinese government just returns the favor. laugh out loud
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vdub84
06-02-2017 at 04:22 PM.
06-02-2017 at 04:22 PM.
Quote from spliffgates :
Does anyone know if you have to go on the tours or if you can skip them and venture off on your own?
I visited China around 2010 on a package similar to this one, but for $899, not including visa fees (so this is a stellar deal). That was booked through SmartTours, but I would assume these tour guides operate in a similar fashion, and might even be run by the same company in China. Anyway, my friend and I were able to get out of the tours, as long as we met up with the group in time for the flights to the other cities. There were a couple of tours that we participated in, like the Great Wall, but you can easily arrange a visit to each of these destinations yourself and spend only the time you need. I did get annoyed at the length of time they keep you at each tourist trap spot, so I would highly recommend opting out of the tours if you can. Don't buy anything at those spots, btw. The markup is at minimum 500% of actual market value, and the quality of jade/silk/tea they're selling you is bottom of the barrel, or close to it. If you do China right, you can come back with an amazing experience for under $1000 with this package. Back then, the hourly wage of a bakery employee we met was ~$1USD/hour, so a buck went a long way (in Beijing - not the same in Shanghai).

anyway, at this price, don't think - just do it.
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alexwine
06-02-2017 at 04:49 PM.
06-02-2017 at 04:49 PM.
What does $499 include other than the round trip air tickets?

I see many optional programs and one of those is "Thailand Splendid 10 Days $1099". If I check this option, my trip will be a 20-days trip instead of 10-days? Am I understanding this correctly?
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