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Swann ( Hikvision OEM ) 5MP IP PoE Bullet or Dome Security Camera 2 Pack - NHD-850 / NHD-851 2 cameras for $149.99

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Swann ( Hikvision OEM ) 5MP IP PoE Bullet or Dome Security Camera 2 Pack - NHD-850 / NHD-851 2 cameras for $149.99

Both are very similar, mostly just the form factor is different.

Product links:
Bullet 2 pack: https://www.swann.com/us/swnhd-850pk2/
Dome 2 pack: https://www.swann.com/us/swnhd-851pk2


Dome cameras do have issues outdoors, so do consider the bullets for outdoors.
( see my notes #55 for examples of issues w/domes https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/loo...ost-175727 )

Thanks to Sam88 for posting the recent deal for the 4K Swann NVR and 4K turret.
( https://slickdeals.net/f/11656651-swann-8-channel-4k-nvr-w-4tb-hdd-99-99-4k-dome-turret-ip-camera-129-99 )

Hikvision OEM IP PoE cameras, the bullets look to have a trap door which may lead to a microSD card slot. There was no mention of a microSD card slot on the specs provided by Swann.

These cameras will work with the Swann NVR listed, as well as should work Hikvision OEM NVRs which can accept 5MP resolutions cameras ( i.e. should work with the recent LaView NVR deal from Newegg which hit the fp https://slickdeals.net/f/11678955-8ch-h-265-nvr-laview-4mp-2688x1520-full-poe-ip-camera-security-system-w-4-x-4mp-2688x1520-in-outdoor-ip-cameras-370-free-s-h )

Features:
  • Camera: NHD-850 || NHD-851
  • Compatible Recorders: NVR-8000
  • Resolution: 5MP
  • Night Vision Distance: 100ft/30m
  • Viewing Angle: 63° ( note this is actually very useful for increasing the ID distance )
  • Outdoor Camera Rating: IP67
  • Warranty: 12 Months

NHD-850 Camera || NHD-851 Camera
  • Video Quality: 5MP
  • Viewing Angle: 63°
  • Audio:
  • Microphone: No
  • Night Vision: Distance Up to 30m
  • IR Cut Filter: Yes ( important for IR illuminated B&W imaging )
  • General
  • Indoor / Outdoor: Indoor or Outdoor, IP67 rated
  • Operating Temperature: -22°F ~ 122°F / -30°C ~ 50°C
  • Body Construction: Aluminium
  • Dimensions – Camera: 2.5" x 6.1" x 2.5", 64mm x 155mm x 64mm || 4.4" x 3.2", 111mm x 82mm

Included in box:
  • NHD-850 Camera x 2 || NHD-851 Camera x 2
  • Cat5e Ethernet Cable x 2 (60ft / 18m)
  • Mounting Screws & Plugs
  • Operating Instructions
  • Theft Deterrent Stickers


https://www.swann.com/us/swnhd-850pk2/

https://www.swann.com/us/swnhd-851pk2
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Last Edited by Marylandshpr August 4, 2018 at 06:31 PM
Remember to follow some basics to help keep your IP cameras / NVR secure:

1) Do not port forward.
2) Change default passwords
3) Turn off UPnP on router
4) Use a VPN setup on your router to allow you to access the cameras remotely. ( this is different than a VPN service some may have purchased that allows you to go out of your home to another IP address, you need one to allow you to come into your home )

more info
https://ipcamtalk.com/wiki/how-to...et-hacked/

Cabling notes in the wiki, and ID distance listing: ( recommend using quality bulk solid copper wires cat6/5e cable )
https://slickdeals.net/f/10409612-lorex-dahua-oem-6x-4k-8mp-security-camera-system-w-8-port-poe-ip-nvr-2tb-hdd-kit-at-costco-b-m-ymmv-for-799-99

***Deal is alive on the Swann website as well as their Ebay store and Amazon as of today 8/4/2018***

Quote from Marylandshpr :
Just an FYI I flashed both cameras over to Hikvision firmware and they are working perfectly on my Hikvision NVR (even show up as Hikvision camera in my NVR setup). You can directly hook them up to a Hikvision or Laview NVR and they will technically work (including HikConnect) without doing anything to them straight out of the box, but you can't change the default password for some reason if you only do this, which leaves them vulnerable to being hacked. IMHO it is a bad idea to not take a few extra steps to flash them to the Hikvision firmware if you have a Hikvision or Laview NVR **AND** update the password to something secure.

You can directly flash the firmware from Swann to Hikvison within the NVR. This is the new firmware that closed the security loophole which was exploited last year. I downloaded it off the Hikvision website using the link someone posted on here earlier.

Firmware link: (I used the latest build at the bottom of the page):
http://www.hikvisioneurope.com/po...us%20issue

Second step is to update the password

SADP tool
https://www.hikvision.com/en/Supp...oads/Tools
(Is a RAR file. If you have Windows 10, the MS store has a free program that will unzip a RAR file.)

I strongly suggest you take a few minutes and update the password from the default 12345 using the SADP program. For some reason I couldn't do this within the NVR (trust me I tried several different ways). So after flashing the firmware to Hikvision I uplugged each camera and opened the bottom of each one (two star screws) with the screw driver in the box and hard reset each camera. I then hooked each camera up to my home computer and opened SADP. When you open SADP and check mark the camera it will ask you to activate the camera (i.e. create a new long/secure password **this is VERY important***). Did that on each camera and rehooked it back to the NVR. Cameras are now full Hikvision now and secured...at a great price and super clear.

**Standard disclaimer..do this at your own risk. For informational purposes only**

Also Swann is selling these on Ebay and Amazon for $149.99 (for a set of two) as of today (7/19/18)

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mat2000
06-09-2018 at 01:55 AM.
06-09-2018 at 01:55 AM.
This is what Sam88 had to say about these cameras ( thanks Sam88 ! )

Quote from sam88 :
.. The NHD-850 and NHD-851 2-pack are still in stock. They are very good cameras (OEMed by Hikvisoin, equiv to DS-2CD2055FWD-I and DS-2CD2155FWD-I). The prices are really good, get them before they run out.
https://www.swann.com/us/swnhd-850pk2
https://www.swann.com/us/swnhd-851pk2
If the cameras indeed have microSD card slots they would make good standalone cameras provided you have a PoE power source ( such as a PoE switch ) and add a microSD card to each. ( samsung evo+ is preferred by many ipcamtalk members )

ID distance, theoretical ( based on 100 ppf )
Swann 5MP IP Bullet Camera (NHD-850) 2560x1920 note same H FOV as 4MP 63° : 23.3 feet { 298.3 sq feet covered }

If you plan to use the dome camera outdoors, to minimize issues - use care when putting the dome back on so that the foam around the lens is not damaged, and for longer life keep the dome out of direct UV exposure - as both the plastic dome and foam blocking the IR lights within the dome from reflecting into the lens will decay over time when exposed to UV and heat.
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06-09-2018 at 08:32 AM.
06-09-2018 at 08:32 AM.
2560x1920 (according to the site image)
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06-09-2018 at 11:35 AM.
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kurabii
06-09-2018 at 02:48 PM.
06-09-2018 at 02:48 PM.
Not ONVIF right? quick search on their site yields no info. Dang this is a pretty good deal. Would absolutely pickup another 2 if this can be used with other nvr/blue iris server!
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KokoKong
06-09-2018 at 02:52 PM.
06-09-2018 at 02:52 PM.
Anyone have tips for reasonably priced smart POE cameras? I want something that will capture license plates and will allow cross perimeter notifications (beyond the regular motion detection).
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mrdizle
06-09-2018 at 02:55 PM.
06-09-2018 at 02:55 PM.
Turrets are best outdoors imho
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06-09-2018 at 03:21 PM.
06-09-2018 at 03:21 PM.
Quote from kurabii :
Not ONVIF right? quick search on their site yields no info. Dang this is a pretty good deal. Would absolutely pickup another 2 if this can be used with other nvr/blue iris server!

They are ONVIF compliant.
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davelikesdeals2
06-09-2018 at 03:29 PM.
06-09-2018 at 03:29 PM.
I love my dome cameras more than bullet, they seem more discrete and they seem to not attract spiders nearly as much.

Just remember to do reviews for specific models across the web prior to buying.. if there are very few or none, you're taking an even greater risk.
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o_intent
06-09-2018 at 03:30 PM.
06-09-2018 at 03:30 PM.
The domes are rebadged Hikvision DS-2CD2155FWD-IS , which I'm confident comes with a microSD slot. The bullets are a variation of the same camera, the DS-2CD2055FWD .

Whether the Swann retain this one feature or not, who knows, these retailers tend to strip off key features when they make it here to the US.
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06-09-2018 at 03:34 PM.
06-09-2018 at 03:34 PM.
Quote from gksink :
They are ONVIF compliant.
Where did you see onvif? I didn't in the page and when I googled the model+onvif


Someone has to have flashed them to a Hikvision firmware. Damn I want to jump but already have 200$ invested in an i5, 16gb ram box I plan to use as a blue iris NVR.
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06-09-2018 at 03:44 PM.
Quote from kurabii :
Where did you see onvif? I didn't in the page and when I googled the model+onvif


Someone has to have flashed them to a Hikvision firmware. Damn I want to jump but already have 200$ invested in an i5, 16gb ram box I plan to use as a blue iris NVR.
Hi Kurabii,

The should work with Blue Iris as they should have an accessible rtsp feed.
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06-09-2018 at 03:48 PM.
06-09-2018 at 03:48 PM.
Quote from kurabii :
Where did you see onvif? I didn't in the page and when I googled the model+onvif


Someone has to have flashed them to a Hikvision firmware. Damn I want to jump but already have 200$ invested in an i5, 16gb ram box I plan to use as a blue iris NVR.

I sell Hikvision cameras and all of their OEM'd cameras that I've come across use a variant/version of the Hikvision firmware just personalized. They will all use the same/similar chipsets and sensors so should have the same featureset as the specs will suggest, within reason..
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06-09-2018 at 04:11 PM.
06-09-2018 at 04:11 PM.
I believe the following to be highly likely:

1) microSD card slots on both cameras
2) ONVIF compliant

The question is how much do these vary from the Hikvision OEM model they are based on ( I am guessing very little based on some other cameras which SD members have purchased from Swann )

Here's the spec sheet on the Dome Hikvision OEM version:https://www.hikvision.com/en/Prod...55FWD-I(S)

It looks very nice, 20 fps at 5MP, good sized imaging sensor 1/2.9" ..

Seriously nice cameras from everything I can tell, and with the narrow FOV these do a great job on getting a nice ID distance ( looks like a 6mm "lens 6 mm, horizontal field of view: 60°" )

3 rtsp streams ( each a different resolution )

ONVIF (Profile S, Profile G), ISAPI

Built-in Micro SD/SDHC/SDXC slot, up to 128 GB

Smart feature set ( lots listed, very nice camera indeed, note if using Blue Iris this matters less as iirc Blue Iris does the calculations on the PC itself )

For the price this is an exceptional deal, beating any other possible vendor selling them ( including Chinese vendors selling grey market versions ). imho the only thing one could ask for is a turret version.

Quote from gksink :
I sell Hikvision cameras and all of their OEM'd cameras that I've come across use a variant/version of the Hikvision firmware just personalized. They will all use the same/similar chipsets and sensors so should have the same featureset as the specs will suggest, within reason..
Hi Gksink, very good to have you join us.
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