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LeChange / Dahua 8x 8MP/4K UHD IP PoE cameras + 16 channel port PoE NVR w/3TB HDD $899.99 on 7/13/2018 Frys

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Lechange 16 Channel NVR with 8 4K Network Cameras
Frys#: 9477641 Model: NK168P083

Additional 10% off on one day only 6/22/2018 w/emailed discount code to Fry's email list subscribers

Thanks to mfish, he noticed it on 07/13/2018 for $899.99!

Fry's B&M do not seem to carry this brand in general, so order online

Le Change / Dahua security camera system.

https://www.frys.com/product/9477641

Thanks to Sam88 for mentioning that Fry's has deals on LeChange a Dahua brand.
  • 4K UHD VideoUp to 8MP Resolution for Preview and Playback ( camera is 8MP/"4K" UHD at15fps, not the cinematic 4K spec. )
  • H.265 codec The latest and most effective codec type
  • Night Visionup to 40m/130ft distance
  • Viewing Angle 88° horizontal field of view
  • Motion Detection Get instant alert while you're on-the-go
  • Weatherproof IP67 Protection
  • Storage HDD Storage(up to 2*8TB)
  • Lechange App Monitoring at any time, anywhere
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Last Edited by mat2000 July 18, 2018 at 10:25 AM
Please see the following wiki for more info on cabling and placement of cameras
https://slickdeals.net/f/10409612-lorex-dahua-oem-6x-4k-8mp-security-camera-system-w-8-port-poe-ip-nvr-2tb-hdd-kit-at-costco-b-m-ymmv-for-799-99


Q: from kavanoz https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=117837839&postcount=75
Reading from ipcamtalk, IPC-HDW5231R-ZE seems to be the recommended model for low light conditions to add to this kit.
@mat2000 Do you agree or would you recommend something else?

A: Hi Kavanoz,

That is the the preferred option as it is varifocal and allows you to customize your view, and being a turret model is preferred over the bullet style by many.

If you have an idea of the lens you want the
IPC-HDW42xx models are also good options, turret style. 3.6mm lens for about 90 degree FOV iirc. It will save you a little, iirc runs about $120+/-

If you want a bullet style - then
IPC-HFW42xx - for a fixed lens like those in the kit.
IPC-HFW52xx - for a varifocal lens, a bit longer body but otherwise like those in this kit.

IPC-HDBW4231F-AS - a Dahua OEM 2MP mini-dome wedge - well liked for putting right next to your door. I have a nice 2.8mm lens one at face level by the door. Really good for facial images / ID.
( also nice for indoors as it is smaller and you can paint the case to match your walls/ceiling )

IPC-HDBW4231F-E2-M/M12 - a 2 lens version of the above.. very nice for by the door. Uses only one cat5e/6 cable, and get 2 videos. Can use one lens to look at the package drop area at the foot of the door, the other for faces. ( or good for corners on a porch )

Remember with the dome cameras - keep them out of dirct UV exposure for longer life.

Also as I have much porch light on all night - I do not have to turn on the IR lights so internal reflections not an issue ( typically an issue if the foam/rubber ring around the lens is not in full contact with the dome )

Oh, and there's a non-microphone cheaper version of the starlight camera
model is IPC-HDW22xx - newer model, so Andy sometimes has it in stock and then sells out. ( note it has some less features compared to the IPC-HDW5231xx models )

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This looks like one of the best deals for a Dahua kit.

The bullet cameras in this kit should be similar to the recent Q-see and Amcrest "4K"/8MP bullet cameras I posted here on SDs. Which were deals at $150 from Costco and $126 from Amcrest.

I do not know if the cameras have microSD card slots - I believe they may.

NVR - appears to be a Dahua OEM NVR5216-16P-4KS2 or NVR4216-16P-4KS2 ( I previously thought it would hold only one HDD, but closer inspection states (up to 2*8TB) )

The cameras appear to be Dahua OEM IPC-HFW48xx models.

These cameras are better than the similar looking ones in the popular Costco Lorex 4K kit which is currently going for $650 in B&M Costcos.

Pros:
1) Dahua OEM - thus Dahua OEM starlight cameras WILL work with this kit! Add a few and get great low light coverage.
2) 16 port PoE NVR which can hold 2 HDDs
3) Retains advanced IVS features: Tripwire, Intrusion, Object Abandoned/Missing ( they also note "face detection" )
4) Supports H.265 and H.264
5) Cameras have nice solid metal cases.

Cons:
1) Fry's - the store we love to hate and hate to love.... ( I really dislike Fry's sometimes, sold me sooo many crappy products thanks to their buyer getting kickbacks - iirc they charge him for fraud on that )
2) LeChange - what! What is this company??? This is Dahua's new consumer brand here in the USA. They've had it in China iirc since 2014. Documentation on the Fry's site is limited.
3) Not a turret - yeah, turret style would be nicer, but how much more would you be willing to pay? ( $400? .. a 8MP Dahua OEM camera is $150-180 each from China )

Specs: ( edited )

NVR
Inputs 16 Channel
Outputs 1 VGA, 1 HDMI
Display Resolution Up to 4K
Audio Input 1 RCA
Audio Output 1 RCA
Recording Compression H.265/H.264
Resolution Up to 4K@15fps, 4MP/1080P@25/30fps
Hard Driver Includes 3TB HDD(Up to 8TB capacity) [ description indicated able to handle 2* HDD - sweet deal! ]
Ethernet Port 1 Independent RJ45 Port
PoE 16 ports(IEEE802.3af/at)
USB Interface 1 USB 2.0, 1 USB 3.0
Dimension 375mm*327.5mm*53mm(14.8"*12.9"*2.1")
Operating Conditions -10°C~+55°C(+14°F~+131°)

Camera
Video Resolution Up to "4K"
Viewing Angle 88°
Indoor/Outdoor: IP67 Protection
Operation Condition -30℃~+60℃(+22℉~+140℉)
Body Constructsion Metal
Dimension 180mm*70mm*70mm(7.09"*2.76"*2.76")
Image Sensor: 1/2.5" 8 Megapixel progressive scan CMOS
Effective Pixels: 3840(H)x2160(V)
RAM/ROM: 512MB/32MB
Electronic Shutter Speed: Auto/Manual, 1/3(4)~1/100000s
Minimum Illumination: 0.06Lux/F1.6(Color,1/3s,30IRE), 0.3Lux/F1.6(Color,1/30s,30IRE) 0Lux/F1.6(IR on)
S/N Ratio: More than 50dB
IR Distance: Distance up to 40m (131ft)
IR On/Off Control: Auto/ Manual
IR LEDs: 2Lens
Type: Fixed
Focal Length: 2.8mm (4.0mm optional)
Max. Aperture: F1.6 (F1.6)
Angle of View: H:112° (88°), V:69° (48°)
Optical Zoom: N/A
Pan/Tilt/Rotation Range: Pan:0˚~360˚; Tilt:0˚~90˚; Rotation:0˚~360˚
IVS: Tripwire, Intrusion, Object Abandoned/Missing
Advanced Intelligent Functions: Face Detection
Compression: H.265+/H.265/H.264+/H.264
Streaming Capability: 3 Streams
Resolution: 4K(3840×2160)/6M(3072×2048)/5M(2560×1920)/3M(2048x1536)/3M(2304×1296)/1080P(1920×1080)/
1.3M(1280x960)/720P(1280×720)/D1(704×576/704×480) /VGA(640×480)/CIF(352×288/352×240)
Frame Rate: Main Stream: 4K(1~15fps)/3M(1~25/30fps)
Sub Stream: D1(1~25/30fps)
Third Stream: 1080P(1~25/30fps)
Bit Rate H.264: 24K ~ 10240Kbps
H.265: 14K ~ 9984Kbps
Day/Night: Auto(ICR) / Color / B/W
BLC Mode BLC / HLC / WDR(120dB)
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The closest kit to compare this to is the deal from last Christmas / BF-cyberweek from Lorex for a 16 port NVR + 6x "4K" cameras for $799

https://slickdeals.net/f/11083191-4k-ultra-hd-ip-16-ch-nvr-system-w-6-outdoor-8mp-cameras-799-free-shipping

Differences:
The Fry's LeChange deal:
NVR does not have a nice front plate.
NVR and Cameras support advanced features IVS
2 more "4K" bullet cameras
"4K" bullet cameras are better models - ONVIF should be supported. These cameras should be similar to the Lorex 8MP nocturnal bullets.

This is the closest Lorex "4K" UHD 8MP camera you want to compare the cameras in the LeChange kit to:
4K Ultra HD Resolution 8MP Outdoor IP Camera, 200ft Night Vision
LNB8921BW NEW PRODUCT
Reg.$379.99
$279.99
https://www.lorextechnology.com/4...8921BW-1-p

Difference: Lorex branded camera painted black, and no IVS features. Otherwise should basically be the same model. ( yes, with the ability of "color night vision" if you have enough ambient light )

Update:
Estimate costs to buy from Chinese vendor on Ali, Amazon, Ebay,.. note I do not include the cables as I feel they have little value as they are probably CCA cables.
8x $150 per 8MP camera + 1x $350 for NVR + 1x 3TB HDD = $1550 +1x 3TB HDD ( est $90 ) = $1640
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Note - there are other LeChange kits that Fry's has for 10% additional off, this one is the one I would recommend as it is a good kit.

I prefer IP PoE kits, so many of the DVR kits I know less about.
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what kind of hard drive?
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Note - there are other LeChange kits that Fry's has for 10% additional off, this one is the one I would recommend as it is a good kit.
Frys had a 25% off Lechange for 1 day last week, i was looking at a lesser non POE system but didnt pull the trigger because i cant find any info about Lechange besides the one article that states that Dahua is now making a consumer Lechange brand
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Frys had a 25% off Lechange for 1 day last week, i was looking at a lesser non POE system but didnt pull the trigger because i cant find any info about Lechange besides the one article that states that Dahua is now making a consumer Lechange brand
Hi Talented,

This is a good solid kit.

You may have to do some DIY learning, but ipcamtalk's cliff notes will cover you there as well as the Lorex notes I have posted in the wiki here ( see link ).

Seriously, ALL the info you need to get started with this should be covered in the ipcamtalk cliff notes and more info is available on the dahua wiki and youtube videos.

Sam88 did mention it was 25% off previously, currently this kit is close to that. ( 12% + an additional 10% = 22% )

Had I not already had something, knowing what I know now, I would get this kit and add a few Dahua OEM 2MP starlight cameras to it.
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Hi Talented,

This is a good solid kit.

You may have to do some DIY learning, but ipcamtalk's cliff notes will cover you there as well as the Lorex notes I have posted in the wiki here ( see link ).

Seriously, ALL the info you need to get started with this should be covered in the ipcamtalk cliff notes and more info is available on the dahua wiki and youtube videos.

Sam88 did mention it was 25% off previously, currently this kit is close to that. ( 12% + an additional 10% = 22% )

Had I not already had something, knowing what I know now, I would get this kit and add a few Dahua OEM 2MP starlight cameras to it.
Oh you been very helpful ive been lurking for the last few months reading alot on Ipcam and here ever since i missed the 4k 4cam kit from Costco for $450 (it sold out). Thank you Mat for all your input and knowledge
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Oh you been very helpful ive been lurking for the last few months reading alot on Ipcam and here ever since i missed the 4k 4cam kit from Costco for $450 (it sold out). Thank you Mat for all your input and knowledge
Thanks Talended, Happy to help out.

LeChange looks to be new to the game here - so maybe we'll see more of their products out.
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Frys had a 25% off Lechange for 1 day last week, i was looking at a lesser non POE system but didnt pull the trigger because i cant find any info about Lechange besides the one article that states that Dahua is now making a consumer Lechange brand
Dahua started the Lechange brand in China a couple years ago. Their Chinese website (https://www.lechange.com) has a lot more products than the US site (https://en.lechange.com/). It's like the EZVIZ brand of Hikvision. The Lechange app is supposed be more user friendly as it's targeted for consumers.
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Sam88 did mention it was 25% off previously, currently this kit is close to that. ( 12% + an additional 10% = 22% )
Not to get technical here, but that's closer to 20% (100*.9*.88= 79.2) than 25%.

I'm very tempted none the less. The non PoE DVR from andy is $265. Even taking that price into account, these bullets are sub $100 each. To bad I'm trying to pick up turrets or I'd probably be on this. The price is super tempting though in comparison to the 8MP fixed turrets

I notice the specs say 2.8mm lens with 4.0 optional. So these probably come with 2.8 or we dont have any real idea till someone bites on it?
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Not to get technical here, but that's closer to 20% (100*.9*.88= 79.2) than 25%.

I'm very tempted none the less. The non PoE DVR from andy is $265. Even taking that price into account, these bullets are sub $100 each. To bad I'm trying to pick up turrets or I'd probably be on this. The price is super tempting though in comparison to the 8MP fixed turrets

I notice the specs say 2.8mm lens with 4.0 optional. So these probably come with 2.8 or we dont have any real idea till someone bites on it?
Hi Psumarsh,

Ah.. yes.. the 10% is not really 10% .. but .1x ( normal price - first discount ) here... lol, recall why I "love" Frys..

990/1250 = 0.792

So yes about 20% off.

This would have been sooooo great were these turrets....
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Hi Psumarsh,

Ah.. yes.. the 10% is not really 10% .. but .1x ( normal price - first discount ) here... lol, recall why I "love" Frys..

990/1250 = 0.792

So yes about 20% off.

This would have been sooooo great were these turrets....
Depending on what $ value u place on the NVR, the cameras come out to sub 100 or less. Omg, if these were turrets ... Please

In your research, have you seen turrets offered in any of these packages, ever?

Just trying to figure out if it's a matter of taking time for product roll out or a conscious decision from the OEMs to only go with bullet cameras for whatever reason (marketing, customer acceptance of bullets being THE security camera etc)
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Depending on what $ value u place on the NVR, the cameras come out to sub 100 or less. Omg, if these were turrets ... Please

In your research, have you seen turrets offered in any of these packages, ever?

Just trying to figure out if it's a matter of taking time for product roll out or a conscious decision from the OEMs to only go with bullet cameras for whatever reason (marketing, customer acceptance of bullets being THE security camera etc)
Hi Psumarsh,

Turret deals are more rare. Even with a turret deal - Typically it maybe a 50/50 mix of turret and bullets. ( Lorex seems to like offering kits like this - and are calling turrets domes! Blah - please keep it straight folks )

Also 16 port NVRs deals are less frequent than 8 port NVRs

I am hoping that kits with turrets will become more popular.

That said, most of the ipcamtalk folks like to talk about spider issues with bullets - that can be solved with external IR illuminators. ( they think the spiders like the visor edge as a good place to attach their web to catch bugs )

These bullets are fairly robust - so they are rather durable and if mounted correctly hard to tweek. ( of course a turret is better on that ).

So, that leaves the WAF / aesthetics issue...
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