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HP EX920 M.2 512GB PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D TLC @(Newegg via eBay) $79.99

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A few dollars more than the deal posted a few days ago without a promo.
Only $3 more than the EX900, which is DRAM-less so it will eat into system memory have have lower performance (although the average user won't notice the performance difference anyway).

About the same spec as a Samsung 970 EVO.
https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Com...0vsm493995

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-EX900...2510736330
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fuxkSwagbucks
12-10-2018 at 02:05 AM.
12-10-2018 at 02:05 AM.
I post this message to EVERY recent HP EX920 SSD thread to make sure it reaches as many HP EX920 SSD buyers as possible. Hope this message helps.

SORRY if someone else already posted similar topic in this thread before. I searched "EX920 54" at slickdeals and found no related posts. I have no time to check all posts in all related threads one by time. Thanks for your understanding.

I bought an HP EX 920 512GB SSD last month from newegg at ebay. The drive's temperature was ALWAYS 54C (54°C). I googled online, found quite a few reports of the same symptom (both English and Chinese), found no solution. I ended up returning the drive to newegg.

Some related reading:

================================

(1) Shame on you, HP!

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Not...-p/6908437

wheyluhai
12-06-2018 04:49 PM - edited ‎12-06-2018 06:00 PM

To keep everyone posted, I received a message from another HP Tech who requested my contact info, serial number, part number and description of issue. Lets see if this goes anywhere!

Edit: If we can't get this resolved I can defintely imagine many people sadly returning their ex920 1tb drives and buying another brand. What I'm most surprised about is that there is no support, drivers or information about this drive on the HP website. The part number and serial numbers aren't even recognized. Meaning no firmware updates etc, whereas most other competing brands offer drive management software as well as firmware updates.

Update 1: They asked me for a serial number or part number of my PC...what?... Hopes for resolving this issue have fallen.

Update 2: This was the tech's response (lol?):

"While further researching your question I have found some great information so you no longer need to worry or be concerned. Per my research online I found that Most SSDs are rated for running within a temperature range of 0ºC up to a max temp of 70ºC (32ºF to 158ºF). " I promptly replied that the reported value of 54 deg C was not the issue, rather it is the fact that there is no way of telling what the actual tempterature of the drive is because it definitely is not reporting accurately. There is a problem with the SMART reporting within this drive. The raw value for the temperature index is incorrectly static.
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ohnggni
12-07-2018 07:43 AM - edited ‎12-07-2018 07:47 AM

I've already know there are a lot of pepple who have the same problem. I was noticed this product is supposed to be supported SMART function as indicated on the package and so far I never received any satisfied answer. I have no idea why HP is ignoring customers' inquiries like that. Please explain it. This is NEVER only my problem. Already tremendous people experience the same one and HP have to answer.
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bionic_keyboard
‎12-07-2018 04:28 PM - edited ‎12-07-2018 04:30 PM

@Wheyluhai

I recieved the exact same message about the temperature being within normal operating temp. I also responded that that isn't the problem but the fact that the temperature wasn't reporting correctly or changing at all. I'm pretty concerened with HP's ability to solve this problem especially since I doubt they will push out a firmware update that we will have access to.
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Jeffk67
12-07-2018 05:56 PM

I received the same response. That's very irresponsible.

I questioned them and this is what I heard back:

"Since it is currently running at a normal temperature, I would not worry. If there were to be a thermal event you would reach out at that time. "

HP, are you treating your customres like idiots? Should i only reach out when my house burns down?


================================

(2) Another report (in Chinese)
https://www.chiphell.com/forum.ph...id=1929443


(3) It seemed some HP EX920 batch in China had firmware or simply quality problem. Here's another discussion (in Chinese) for your reference. Remeber newegg is currently Chinese company (correct me if I am wrong) so its merchandise source might be the same as of those discussed in the Chinese forum.
https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1929206-1-1.html

Hope this post helps. Smilie
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Vapour
12-10-2018 at 06:36 AM.
12-10-2018 at 06:36 AM.
Quote from kfyaqzzaz :
I post this message to EVERY recent HP EX920 SSD thread to make sure it reaches as many HP EX920 SSD buyers as possible. Hope this message helps.

SORRY if someone else already posted similar topic in this thread before. I searched "EX920 54" at slickdeals and found no related posts. I have no time to check all posts in all related threads one by time. Thanks for your understanding.

I bought an HP EX 920 512GB SSD last month from newegg at ebay. The drive's temperature was ALWAYS 54C (54°C). I googled online, found quite a few reports of the same symptom (both English and Chinese), found no solution. I ended up returning the drive to newegg.

Some related reading:

================================

(1) Shame on you, HP!

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Not...-p/6908437

wheyluhai
12-06-2018 04:49 PM - edited ‎12-06-2018 06:00 PM

To keep everyone posted, I received a message from another HP Tech who requested my contact info, serial number, part number and description of issue. Lets see if this goes anywhere!

Edit: If we can't get this resolved I can defintely imagine many people sadly returning their ex920 1tb drives and buying another brand. What I'm most surprised about is that there is no support, drivers or information about this drive on the HP website. The part number and serial numbers aren't even recognized. Meaning no firmware updates etc, whereas most other competing brands offer drive management software as well as firmware updates.

Update 1: They asked me for a serial number or part number of my PC...what?... Hopes for resolving this issue have fallen.

Update 2: This was the tech's response (lol?):

"While further researching your question I have found some great information so you no longer need to worry or be concerned. Per my research online I found that Most SSDs are rated for running within a temperature range of 0ºC up to a max temp of 70ºC (32ºF to 158ºF). " I promptly replied that the reported value of 54 deg C was not the issue, rather it is the fact that there is no way of telling what the actual tempterature of the drive is because it definitely is not reporting accurately. There is a problem with the SMART reporting within this drive. The raw value for the temperature index is incorrectly static.
--------------------------------------------
ohnggni
12-07-2018 07:43 AM - edited ‎12-07-2018 07:47 AM

I've already know there are a lot of pepple who have the same problem. I was noticed this product is supposed to be supported SMART function as indicated on the package and so far I never received any satisfied answer. I have no idea why HP is ignoring customers' inquiries like that. Please explain it. This is NEVER only my problem. Already tremendous people experience the same one and HP have to answer.
--------------------------------------------
bionic_keyboard
‎12-07-2018 04:28 PM - edited ‎12-07-2018 04:30 PM

@Wheyluhai

I recieved the exact same message about the temperature being within normal operating temp. I also responded that that isn't the problem but the fact that the temperature wasn't reporting correctly or changing at all. I'm pretty concerened with HP's ability to solve this problem especially since I doubt they will push out a firmware update that we will have access to.
--------------------------------------------
Jeffk67
12-07-2018 05:56 PM

I received the same response. That's very irresponsible.

I questioned them and this is what I heard back:

"Since it is currently running at a normal temperature, I would not worry. If there were to be a thermal event you would reach out at that time. "

HP, are you treating your customres like idiots? Should i only reach out when my house burns down?


================================

(2) Another report (in Chinese)
https://www.chiphell.com/forum.ph...id=1929443


(3) It seemed some HP EX920 batch in China had firmware or simply quality problem. Here's another discussion (in Chinese) for your reference. Remeber newegg is currently Chinese company (correct me if I am wrong) so its merchandise source might be the same as of those discussed in the Chinese forum.
https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1929206-1-1.html

Hope this post helps. Smilie
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/hp-ex920-1-tb-m-2-ssd-review,7.html

This claims peak at 55 and is absolutely fine. I think you are overreacting.

This 970 pro peaks at 56

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/samsung-970-pro-m-2-512gb-nvme-ssd-review,6.html

Check what peak temp you have?

I will also get a thermometer to double check since the reporting could be wrong, not that uncommon.
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samwathegreat
12-10-2018 at 07:25 AM.
12-10-2018 at 07:25 AM.
Quote from kfyaqzzaz :
I post this message to EVERY recent HP EX920 SSD thread to make sure it reaches as many HP EX920 SSD buyers as possible. Hope this message helps.

SORRY if someone else already posted similar topic in this thread before. I searched "EX920 54" at slickdeals and found no related posts. I have no time to check all posts in all related threads one by time. Thanks for your understanding.

I bought an HP EX 920 512GB SSD last month from newegg at ebay. The drive's temperature was ALWAYS 54C (54°C). I googled online, found quite a few reports of the same symptom (both English and Chinese), found no solution. I ended up returning the drive to newegg.

Some related reading:

================================

(1) Shame on you, HP!

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Not...-p/6908437

wheyluhai
12-06-2018 04:49 PM - edited ‎12-06-2018 06:00 PM

To keep everyone posted, I received a message from another HP Tech who requested my contact info, serial number, part number and description of issue. Lets see if this goes anywhere!

Edit: If we can't get this resolved I can defintely imagine many people sadly returning their ex920 1tb drives and buying another brand. What I'm most surprised about is that there is no support, drivers or information about this drive on the HP website. The part number and serial numbers aren't even recognized. Meaning no firmware updates etc, whereas most other competing brands offer drive management software as well as firmware updates.

Update 1: They asked me for a serial number or part number of my PC...what?... Hopes for resolving this issue have fallen.

Update 2: This was the tech's response (lol?):

"While further researching your question I have found some great information so you no longer need to worry or be concerned. Per my research online I found that Most SSDs are rated for running within a temperature range of 0ºC up to a max temp of 70ºC (32ºF to 158ºF). " I promptly replied that the reported value of 54 deg C was not the issue, rather it is the fact that there is no way of telling what the actual tempterature of the drive is because it definitely is not reporting accurately. There is a problem with the SMART reporting within this drive. The raw value for the temperature index is incorrectly static.
--------------------------------------------
ohnggni
12-07-2018 07:43 AM - edited ‎12-07-2018 07:47 AM

I've already know there are a lot of pepple who have the same problem. I was noticed this product is supposed to be supported SMART function as indicated on the package and so far I never received any satisfied answer. I have no idea why HP is ignoring customers' inquiries like that. Please explain it. This is NEVER only my problem. Already tremendous people experience the same one and HP have to answer.
--------------------------------------------
bionic_keyboard
‎12-07-2018 04:28 PM - edited ‎12-07-2018 04:30 PM

@Wheyluhai

I recieved the exact same message about the temperature being within normal operating temp. I also responded that that isn't the problem but the fact that the temperature wasn't reporting correctly or changing at all. I'm pretty concerened with HP's ability to solve this problem especially since I doubt they will push out a firmware update that we will have access to.
--------------------------------------------
Jeffk67
12-07-2018 05:56 PM

I received the same response. That's very irresponsible.

I questioned them and this is what I heard back:

"Since it is currently running at a normal temperature, I would not worry. If there were to be a thermal event you would reach out at that time. "

HP, are you treating your customres like idiots? Should i only reach out when my house burns down?


================================

(2) Another report (in Chinese)
https://www.chiphell.com/forum.ph...id=1929443


(3) It seemed some HP EX920 batch in China had firmware or simply quality problem. Here's another discussion (in Chinese) for your reference. Remeber newegg is currently Chinese company (correct me if I am wrong) so its merchandise source might be the same as of those discussed in the Chinese forum.
https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1929206-1-1.html

Hope this post helps. Smilie
Quote from Vapour :
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/hp-ex920-1-tb-m-2-ssd-review,7.html

This claims peak at 55 and is absolutely fine. I think you are overreacting.

This 970 pro peaks at 56

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-p...iew,6.html

Check what peak temp you have?

I will also get a thermometer to double check since the reporting could be wrong, not that uncommon.
Agreed. All of these drives run very very hot. There's nothing out of the ordinary with the HP drives specifically. My WD NVMe drive runs about the same temp. They sell heatsinks for these, but since it's within operating temperature, few bother.

Give HP a break...their NVMe drives are no hotter than the competition.
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fuxkSwagbucks
12-10-2018 at 07:34 AM.
12-10-2018 at 07:34 AM.
Sigh... The above two posts did NOT get my point.

My post/complaint is NOT about the drive's actual temperature. It's about
(1) The drive's firmware is defective (always reporting 54C) and cannot report actual temperature
(2) HP's response (see my quotes from the HP forum) is unacceptable
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Vapour
12-10-2018 at 08:32 AM.
12-10-2018 at 08:32 AM.
Quote from kfyaqzzaz :
Sigh... The above two posts did NOT get my point.

My post/complaint is NOT about the drive's actual temperature. It's about
(1) The drive's firmware is defective (always reporting 54C) and cannot report actual temperature
(2) HP's response (see my quotes from the HP forum) is unacceptable
Not trying to cover for HP, but this is not uncommon, I have seen a bunch of motherboards reporting wrong temp all the time and manufacturers don't want to bother to update bios to fix them. You have choices to make. Either return them, which is a hassle in most cases, or just find a way to correctly check temp.

You will be surprised most customer service nowadays are useless... You can do whatever you want but I would not consider this is a deal breaker.
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Last edited by Vapour December 10, 2018 at 11:50 AM.
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siberstorm27
12-13-2018 at 05:11 PM.
12-13-2018 at 05:11 PM.
Quote from Vapour :
Not trying to cover for HP, but this is not uncommon, I have seen a bunch of motherboards reporting wrong temp all the time and manufacturers don't want to bother to update bios to fix them. You have choices to make. Either return them, which is a hassle in most cases, or just find a way to correctly check temp.

You will be surprised most customer service nowadays are useless... You can do whatever you want but I would not consider this is a deal breaker.
Umm no you are wrong. Those are usually secondary chips on motherboards no one cares about and don't go above 40c anyway. An nvme ssd with sensitive user data and the OS itself that can get very hot very quickly having a broken temperature sensor is downright ludicrous.
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Arkus
12-14-2018 at 02:18 PM.
12-14-2018 at 02:18 PM.
Quote from siberstorm27 :
Umm no you are wrong. Those are usually secondary chips on motherboards no one cares about and don't go above 40c anyway. An nvme ssd with sensitive user data and the OS itself that can get very hot very quickly having a broken temperature sensor is downright ludicrous.
Thanks for sharing, I will hold off purchasing the EX920 until something is done about the issue you raised. It's a shame because this drive seemed a great value, but not if the manufacturer isn't supporting a critical feature (reporting the actual temperature).
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Shamoke
12-15-2018 at 09:55 AM.
12-15-2018 at 09:55 AM.
Bought mine on the last sale, noticed right away the temp sensor is stuck at 54C when doing benchmarks. Didn't think initially it was too big of a deal since benchmarks and real world performance was matching with what other reviewers noted.

However I've gotten one blue screen (code 9F "driver error") since the day after I first installed this SSD. It might or might not be related to this SSD since this was the only component I changed since.
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MadPup
12-15-2018 at 10:01 AM.
12-15-2018 at 10:01 AM.
Quote from kfyaqzzaz :
Sigh... The above two posts did NOT get my point.

My post/complaint is NOT about the drive's actual temperature. It's about
(1) The drive's firmware is defective (always reporting 54C) and cannot report actual temperature
(2) HP's response (see my quotes from the HP forum) is unacceptable
Why should we care?
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Shamoke
12-15-2018 at 10:12 AM.
12-15-2018 at 10:12 AM.
Quote from MadPup :
Why should we care?
Because it's a potential flaw in the latest batch of these drives? Wouldn't want a notably hotter running NVME drive to have a broken temp sensor when things go awry.
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Ananke
12-15-2018 at 11:09 AM.
12-15-2018 at 11:09 AM.
hmm, I am returning mine. Haven't dealt with Chinese retailers for ten years, Newegg again convinced me to not deal with them. I bet Newegg knew and got these drives super cheap or for free, and is trying to offload them in the US. Several decades doing business, and Chinese companies cannot change their mentality of cheating Frown
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George_P_Burdell
12-15-2018 at 11:12 AM.
12-15-2018 at 11:12 AM.
Quote from samwathegreat :
Agreed. All of these drives run very very hot. There's nothing out of the ordinary with the HP drives specifically. My WD NVMe drive runs about the same temp. They sell heatsinks for these, but since it's within operating temperature, few bother.

Give HP a break...their NVMe drives are no hotter than the competition.
HP is double sided drive. Make sure not to break it while adding heatsink and plugging into your motherboard.
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luckygecko
12-23-2018 at 07:39 AM.
12-23-2018 at 07:39 AM.
Has anyone found any official HP SSD toolkit software for this?
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