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Rosewill RSV-L4500 - Server Case or Chassis, 4U Rackmount - 15 x Internal Bays, 8 x Cooling Fans Included $50

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4U Rackmount chassis

15 x Internal 3.5" HDD Bays
8 x Cooling Fan Included
E-ATX / ATX

https://www.newegg.com/black-rose...6811147164
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Heim
12-02-2019 at 12:45 AM.
12-02-2019 at 12:45 AM.
Definitely some good cooling for hard drives there. Old school construction. Seems like it would be a bear to install drives after it's up and running.
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TechManDad
12-02-2019 at 10:07 AM.
12-02-2019 at 10:07 AM.
Went OOS immediately. They probably flagged two units to sell at this price to get website traffic.
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Hilbe
12-02-2019 at 10:31 AM.
12-02-2019 at 10:31 AM.
Quote from Heim :
Definitely some good cooling for hard drives there. Old school construction. Seems like it would be a bear to install drives after it's up and running.
I have it. It's not terrible. They have clips and can be angled out. Hardest thing is identifying which drive is dead.
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kainsword
12-02-2019 at 10:48 AM.
12-02-2019 at 10:48 AM.
Looks like $50 of raw steel garbage. Unpainted and likely rough/sharp edges on material and poor rosewill quality control, it's rackmount (which isn't an issue for us folks with server cabinets and data hoarders), but has no externally accessible drive trays/sleds (that's kind of the POINT of rackmounting this equipment, for ease of access) or a backplane to manage the mess of sata power/data cables.

>What you can't expect all these features from a $50 chassis!
Yes, you can, because offices are generally tossing out or selling used (but fully featured) server equipment (without hard drives) such as rackmount chassis all the time on Craigslist.

If you must have a NEW product and you don't need a backplane to manage the power/data connections, the minimum viable product is the Fractal Define R6 midtower case. You don't even need a server rack. You can fit up to 12 3.5" hard drives all blasted with cool air by 2x 140mm fans (if you purchase 6 extra drive trays). It's not as big as a full tower, and has all the modern amenities of a typical PC tower, and is a silence focused case to boot.

There's really just no excuse. A data storage rackmount server chassis just has to have externally accessible drive trays, otherwise you should just use a consumer grade PC tower that fits lots of drives.
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hendryjl
12-02-2019 at 11:02 AM.
12-02-2019 at 11:02 AM.
I saw it OOS as well, but then I looked just a few minutes ago and it was back. I bought one. I agree this isn't ideal for a lot of people in a lot of situations, but I've got the spare power supply, and I have no issue with taking down my VMs should I need to replace a disk. $50 is incredibly cheap, even if it is Rosewill (a.k.a. expected to be incredibly cheap quality).
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EmoryDively
12-02-2019 at 11:11 AM.
12-02-2019 at 11:11 AM.
Quote from kainsword :
Looks like $50 of raw steel garbage. Unpainted and likely rough/sharp edges on material and poor rosewill quality control, it's rackmount (which isn't an issue for us folks with server cabinets and data hoarders), but has no externally accessible drive trays/sleds (that's kind of the POINT of rackmounting this equipment, for ease of access) or a backplane to manage the mess of sata power/data cables.

>What you can't expect all these features from a $50 chassis!
Yes, you can, because offices are generally tossing out or selling used (but fully featured) server equipment (without hard drives) such as rackmount chassis all the time on Craigslist.

If you must have a NEW product and you don't need a backplane to manage the power/data connections, the minimum viable product is the Fractal Define R6 midtower case. You don't even need a server rack. You can fit up to 12 3.5" hard drives all blasted with cool air by 2x 140mm fans (if you purchase 6 extra drive trays). It's not as big as a full tower, and has all the modern amenities of a typical PC tower, and is a silence focused case to boot.

There's really just no excuse. A data storage rackmount server chassis just has to have externally accessible drive trays, otherwise you should just use a consumer grade PC tower that fits lots of drives.

But what if we want to mount it in our rack?
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kainsword
12-02-2019 at 11:36 AM.
12-02-2019 at 11:36 AM.
Quote from EmoryDively :
But what if we want to mount it in our rack?
Then ideally buy or pick up fully featured server chassis from used/old servers being thrown out by offices. This was already covered in the same post. Those will already have drive sleds and most likely (some) amount of the previous equipment in it, but rarely will offices also hand out hard drives. You can most likely still get an antiquated motherboard + CPU + memory (can be swapped out for newer hardware) and a serviceable psu.

Again, there's literally no point in rackmounting all this hardware if you need to pull everything out just to add or change out 1 dead harddrive. Every instance you turn off/turn on and service servers with mechanical harddrives applying more wear and tear than just leaving the systems in a steady-state of always rotating. Especially when you need to jostle the entire system out of a rack with no sliding rails and no handles either. The entire thing is just a $50 steel box devoid of any useful server chassis features, which makes it look that much worse when you can pick up free or cheap fully featured steel boxes that, you know, actually come with the rails, drive sleds, a serviceable psu, etc for LESS.
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EmoryDively
12-02-2019 at 11:37 AM.
12-02-2019 at 11:37 AM.
Quote from kainsword :
Then ideally buy or pick up fully featured server chassis from used/old servers being thrown out by offices. This was already covered in the same post. Those will already have drive sleds and most likely (some) amount of the previous equipment in it, but rarely will offices also hand out hard drives. You can most likely still get an antiquated motherboard + CPU + memory (can be swapped out for newer hardware) and a serviceable psu as part of the server being rotated out of service. Not to mention that this cuts back on e-waste since it's being recycled back into use.

No, I get that part. I meant what you said about if you want something new instead of used.
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kainsword
12-02-2019 at 12:38 PM.
12-02-2019 at 12:38 PM.
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No, I get that part. I meant what you said about if you want something new instead of used.
Not even sure what kind of point you're trying to get at.

First off, rackmount hardware is niche for home use. It's designed and sold (in bulk for bulk pricing) to companies that will scale out their infrastructure. While YOU (as a single individual, not a company buying multiple to fill out several dozens of 42U racks where you can negotiate for lower prices) can technically purchase "NEW" server chassis that include hotswap bays, these are few and far between and due to their low volume of sales through markets like Newegg/Amazon/etc. and will often mean higher prices to individual buyers like you or me, than a product that's bought and sold in bulk quickly (like commodity consumer cases like the Fractal Define R6).

Nobody really buys new server hardware with hotswap bays (for home use) because the aforementioned reasons makes it much more viable for a company to pay for it first, and then have people like you or me help them move it out of their office so they don't have to pay large amounts to get pallet and movers and rent a truck to send it out for recycling. That's WHY they often sell it for next to nothing or for free on craigslist, it actually costs these companies a fairly significant amount of money to get rid of unneeded hardware. This after all is a DEAL hunting site, after all, and the best deal for this type of item is to get it free or for a hugely rebated price locally, and that's why I'm pointing out WHERE the good deals are.

If you _must_ be anal about a steel box and you must absolutely have it without a single a single human soul having tainted it with their grimy germs (like, why, man) then it depends on if you already have a host server (includes CPU + Motherboard + Memory, etc) or not.
Silverstone sells some rackmount models that can host a server:
https://www.silverstonetek.com/pr...19&area=en

And so does Norcotek, but Norcotek also has a number of expansion shelves (rackmount cases that are essentially "headless" that you connect to the host through some SAS cables to the main server PC via a SAS expansion card.
http://www.norcotek.com/product-c...rage-case/

And so do many more companies, such as iStarUSA, and more. But again, why are you going to pay >$200 to get a basic steel box with basic given rackmount features such as rails, hotswap drive bays with sleds, when you can get all those basic features for <$50 (usually free + gas to drive there and back) locally via Craigslist. Even this, which is actually painted and has hotswap bays (for a somewhat reasonable price new) is way better than the $50 trash in the OP post, https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147316, so I can see why THIS sold.

But really, tl;dr:
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=server+hots...gslist.org
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