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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

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American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jun 26, 2020
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SomeXYZ
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Any recent statement credit?
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SmellyCat
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Quote from SomeXYZ :
Any recent statement credit?
8 weeks since closing. nothing yet...
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seawolf
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Quote from hungiema :
I'm in the process of doing it the second time on my primary and investment property ,I closed on may 5th on my primary and March 3rd on my investment. So I guess they allow to do it whenever. I have heard people say 2months to 180days. But I'm already doing within my first billing cycle.
180 days is if you did a cash out refi per Fannie Mae requirements.

If it was a change in terms/limited cash out, you can refi immediately but there could be obstacles in better T&Cs allowing them to not price match within 6 months of funding a better loan, and new loan and release of previous loan not having been recorded. Ymmv.
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seawolf
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Quote from Edge :
By a no cost loan, do you mean one with no points ? Because there will still be Title expenses.

Or do you mean one with a credit that offsets the closing costs ?
No cost is lender credit offsetting sections A, B, C, and E on Loan Estimate.
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I've always used Entitle who are now known as RadianTitle now: https://www.radiantitledirect.com/


Anyone use them lately? Their website is down and the contact I had hasnt returned my call since yesterday but as noted they have been the cheapest I've found in PA.


Shahhere


PS. I called ALTTitle.com and their quoted rate is almost $400 more than my last Refi rates from January which were around $1600 for Radian vs. $2040 for ALTTitle.
Last edited by shahhere June 26, 2020 at 08:00 AM.
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Quote from shahhere :
I've always used Entitle who are now known as RadianTitle now: https://www.radiantitledirect.com/


Anyone use them lately? Their website is down and the contact I had hasnt returned my call since yesterday but as noted they have been the cheapest I've found in PA.


Shahhere
Better used Radian for my closing . They are in partnership with Better. They were listed by default on my Tasks.
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Quote from daw4888 :
YMMV but a lot of people have got them to match after lock, but they wont give you the extra $1000. But if you read through the thread a lot of people got a rate match after lock.
Thank you for the quick reply. I did read the thread a while ago and started the process with better, but then things happened at work and got busy. My application is about to expire tomorrow, I am trying to get a competitive rate from lenderfi, but they are taking their time, totally my fault for waiting until the last minute. In case if I dont get the rates from lenderfi on time, should I lock it with better or let it expire and re apply? If I re apply, there will be another soft hit on my credit. So trying to decide which way should I take.

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Quote from Procter :
I then looked at my last refi's closing document, i notice that there was only an settlement agent fee for ~400 and then the ~1300 title insurance. Is this $400 the counterpart of ~$600 I was quoted today? It looks like I will need to use the same title company if I want to save on title insurance?

I'm a little confused.
Yes the $400 that you paid last time is the settlement agent fee, same as the $600 quoted. It may vary by state so it might be worth posting that in case someone in that state has a direct example. I think I read here like California doesn't do it. However, the title reissue does not have to be with the same company.
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Quote from shahhere :
I've always used Entitle who are now known as RadianTitle now: https://www.radiantitledirect.com/


Anyone use them lately? Their website is down and the contact I had hasnt returned my call since yesterday but as noted they have been the cheapest I've found in PA.


Shahhere


PS. I called ALTTitle.com and their quoted rate is almost $400 more than my last Refi rates from January which were around $1600 for Radian vs. $2040 for ALTTitle.
You can call 800.646.8258 for Radian and select 'customer service'. They should be able to provide quote.
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Quote from jcrash :
Wouldn't paying off that extra 3% save you more? ie PMI?

Typically on a 15 year load the Loan-Value ratio under 90% = no PMI. Its on a 30 year loan you need under 80%.
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Quote from daw4888 :
Typically on a 15 year load the Loan-Value ratio under 90% = no PMI. Its on a 30 year loan you need under 80%.
That makes absolutely no sense, of course.
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Quote from sailakfan :
Thank you for the quick reply. I did read the thread a while ago and started the process with better, but then things happened at work and got busy. My application is about to expire tomorrow, I am trying to get a competitive rate from lenderfi, but they are taking their time, totally my fault for waiting until the last minute. In case if I dont get the rates from lenderfi on time, should I lock it with better or let it expire and re apply? If I re apply, there will be another soft hit on my credit. So trying to decide which way should I take.

Soft hits on credit are pretty meaningless. I wouldnt worry about that. You could call your loan guy at better and explain the situation.

I would call Lenderfi, and tell them you are planning to lock in the best rate today. They get paid based on how fast they can close a loan after the application. If they close in less than 30 days from app, the person gets a higher commission. So tell them you are ready to lock a rate today if they can get you a competitive LE. It should light a fire under them. And tell them if they cant, you are happy to move onto another lender.
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Quote from jcrash :
That makes absolutely no sense, of course.

PMI is all about risk. With a 15 year loan, you are paying off more principal up front, so you are less of a risk of them having to take an under-water mortgage a few years in, and thus PMI isn't as big of an issue. Also if you are doing a 15 year loan, they typically can look at the customer as in better financial shape, as they can afford a higher payment, while still being under the 38% debt-income ratio.

On a 30 year loan, you pay off almost zero principle for first few years, so you are at a much higher risk of defaulting on an under-water(to the lender they are underwater even if your house is worth more than your loan, due to all the costs they have in evicting you, and then reselling the property).

Just look around, most lenders will wave PMI on 15 year loans with LTV at 90%.
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Quote from Edge :
By a no cost loan, do you mean one with no points ? Because there will still be Title expenses.

Or do you mean one with a credit that offsets the closing costs ?
The latter -- one with a credit that offsets the closing costs.
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Quote from daw4888 :
Soft hits on credit are pretty meaningless. I wouldnt worry about that. You could call your loan guy at better and explain the situation.

I would call Lenderfi, and tell them you are planning to lock in the best rate today. They get paid based on how fast they can close a loan after the application. If they close in less than 30 days from app, the person gets a higher commission. So tell them you are ready to lock a rate today if they can get you a competitive LE. It should light a fire under them. And tell them if they cant, you are happy to move onto another lender.
Thank you again for the quick respone, I will contact both my loan person and lenderfi and see if they can expedite. Really appreciate it.

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