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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 17, 2020 12:57 AM
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myles370Jul 17, 2020 12:57 AM
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Quote from k1ngkev1n1 :
Oh maybe my credit is lower too bc I don't have an escrow but urs is a great deal.
Lender credit shouldn't have anything to do with escrow or not. The rate table that got my lender credit was based off Loan Cabin quote of 2.875 and $5800 lender credit which no other lender compared to.
Jul 17, 2020 01:11 AM
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LetsgogogoJul 17, 2020 01:11 AM
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Does expected value of house matter in any credits or something changing?

For instance, if appraisal comes in low, say 500k instead of 560k that you put. Does it matter at all? Loan balance is low 300k, so LTV should be lower than 80% regardless.

Jul 17, 2020 01:12 AM
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LetsgogogoJul 17, 2020 01:12 AM
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If you refinanced, say, early July, then want to refinance again now.

Where do you get your last statement for loan from if that lender is saying they're trying to move your files to different servicer? Do you contact that lender to try to get a statement?
Jul 17, 2020 01:24 AM
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SomeXYZJul 17, 2020 01:24 AM
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Quote from Letsgogogo :
Does expected value of house matter in any credits or something changing?

For instance, if appraisal comes in low, say 500k instead of 560k that you put. Does it matter at all? Loan balance is low 300k, so LTV should be lower than 80% regardless.
Some one has to explain it..
Jul 17, 2020 01:25 AM
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CycloneFWJul 17, 2020 01:25 AM
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Quote from Letsgogogo :
If you refinanced, say, early July, then want to refinance again now.

Where do you get your last statement for loan from if that lender is saying they're trying to move your files to different servicer? Do you contact that lender to try to get a statement?
I had downloaded my statement from TMS for my May Better refi. By the time rates got to where I wanted to apply again though, the loan showed up at Wells Fargo. However, I would have just used the TMS statement, if necessary.
Jul 17, 2020 01:33 AM
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luxury4freeJul 17, 2020 01:33 AM
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Just locking in my rate as we speak. 15year 3.125% fixed .A+B+C=$1159. -$874 Lender credits = $285 going to better.com. (I had them price match to quicken and they beat them by a couple hundred) Other non negotiable costs including taxes, pre paid escrow etc bring total closing costs to $2065. Appraisal is free via AMEX. And didn't even have to give cc info to lock the rate. Escrow is a wash because you get the balance back from your old bank u refinancing from. This loan is costing me $285 plus $433 recording fees and $208 prepaid interest= $926 total loan cost. When the amex $2500 statement credit is calculated in, I'll net $1574 profit to close the loan and lower my interest rate by 5/8. Hoping the rates stay low and they come out with another promo soon so I can do it all over again lol. Im a cheap **** thats why im on this site. Before I called to lock in the rate, I spoke to someone at amerisave (very cool dude) trying to get even lower pricematch. When I told him what I was getting at better.com he couldnt believe it. Said "I cant even come close to that. You should take it and run while you can. Speaking of running, I have to get my kid at daycare. Was nice talking to you, have a nice day." lol true story
Jul 17, 2020 01:47 AM
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FabulousMoon943Jul 17, 2020 01:47 AM
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Anyone tried in CA wit better for 730k loan ?Appraised for 1M.?Got LE from LenderFi.But better is not ready to match.

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Jul 17, 2020 01:53 AM
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dfwordersJul 17, 2020 01:53 AM
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Quote from David9569 :
1. I'm pretty sure I got a quote for Watermark at 2.5. It wasn't worthwhile though. I assume you mean 2.625.
2. Watermark seemed ready to match LoanCabin's 2.625 which would have been about a $2900 lender credit. I didn't pursue.
3. Better matched my deal with LoanCabin, which was better than the one you have (290K loan). And of course there is the $2500.
That might be the best you can do, but rates are continually going down, so I'd at least see if Better will match for an easy 2.5K+.
4. Some people have mentioned that their Waterloan numbers wound up being not what they were originally told, so be careful for that.
Thank you for the tips. The fees might be high and I'm on the fence about Watermark as well. Title cost $1000. Will push for loan estimate tomorrow. Although, my conversation with better.com they are saying that I "have to" have that email from Amex to qualify for $2500. Is that really true?
Jul 17, 2020 01:54 AM
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LetsgogogoJul 17, 2020 01:54 AM
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Quote from SomeXYZ :
Some one has to explain it..
Quote from SomeXYZ :
Some one has to explain it..
Yeah, well, appraisal is not within our reach. Does someone know?
Jul 17, 2020 01:54 AM
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LetsgogogoJul 17, 2020 01:54 AM
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Quote from CycloneFW :
I had downloaded my statement from TMS for my May Better refi. By the time rates got to where I wanted to apply again though, the loan showed up at Wells Fargo. However, I would have just used the TMS statement, if necessary.
WF was your new loan servicer? But TMS from May must have had different amounts, and wasn't it paid off?
Jul 17, 2020 01:59 AM
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Gdog2004Jul 17, 2020 01:59 AM
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Hey guys, my broker told me my loan will be serviced by the money source and the online ratings for them are the worst I have seen. Can we get it sold to someone else ?
I mean look at this...
https://wallethub.com/profile/the...-13797888i

They seem like a nightmare company. My loan has not closed yet, I have asked better to sell it to a different company.
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Jul 17, 2020 02:00 AM
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LetsgogogoJul 17, 2020 02:00 AM
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Quote from k1ngkev1n1 :
this is same for me except appraisal waived. seems to be moving fast, other then me pestering them to lock in my rate match (my contact was out on saturday) was fine. i thought they would push back when i asked about amex because of all the credits i got, but she just asked for my card info to put on the application. so far so good for me.
Did it show that appraisal was waived?

Jul 17, 2020 02:03 AM
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CycloneFWJul 17, 2020 02:03 AM
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Quote from Letsgogogo :
WF was your new loan servicer? But TMS from May must have had different amounts, and wasn't it paid off?
About 8 or so days after closing on my refi (and after my old loan was paid off), I got a welcome email to TMS. The account number at TMS was different than the loan number at Better. About a month later, around two weeks before my first payment due on July 1st, my loan was bought by Wells Fargo and showed up there. I sent my first payment on the loan to Wells. Even today, I can still see the loan at TMS, though it says my "current principal balance" at TMS is $0.00.
Jul 17, 2020 02:05 AM
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CycloneFWJul 17, 2020 02:05 AM
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Quote from Gdog2004 :
Hey guys, my broker told me my loan will be serviced by the money source and the online ratings for them are the worst I have seen. Can we get it sold to someone else ?
I mean look at this...
https://wallethub.com/profile/the...-13797888i [wallethub.com]

They seem like a nightmare company. My loan has not closed yet, I have asked better to sell it to a different company.
If you are financially-savvy, it should not matter who the servicer of your loan is. People at-large have some thoughts on how things "should be" and vs. "are" and run afoul of things there. When dealing with such problems, sure, different servicers may have different tract records and policies.

Similarly, some credit card companies charge higher interest on balances or don't waive a late payment fee even on the first occurrence, but neither should impact someone on top of their finances.

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Jul 17, 2020 02:29 AM
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Gdog2004Jul 17, 2020 02:29 AM
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Quote from CycloneFW :
If you are financially-savvy, it should not matter who the servicer of your loan is. People at-large have some thoughts on how things "should be" and vs. "are" and run afoul of things there. When dealing with such problems, sure, different servicers may have different tract records and policies.

Similarly, some credit card companies charge higher interest on balances or don't waive a late payment fee even on the first occurrence, but neither should impact someone on top of their finances.
If you read thru some of those complaints you would quickly realize being financially savvy means nothing with the type of issues they caused for people.

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