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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 19, 2020 04:00 AM
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pamifJul 19, 2020 04:00 AM
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As the rate is still dropping, the best strategy is to max lender credits instead of lowering the rate. Pocket more profit for the time being, and give enough room for the next refinance, which you will need soon anyway.
Jul 19, 2020 04:03 AM
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pamifJul 19, 2020 04:03 AM
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At such a low rate, borrow as much as you can, and invest the extra into a fund such as qqq that has an average return of 20% for the past 10 years.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/Q...ance?p=QQQ
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Jul 19, 2020 04:33 AM
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apple1122Jul 19, 2020 04:33 AM
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Hi,

Better is asking to prepaid 2 months + additional 6 months property tax at closing. Anyone know what is the reason that they ask for 8 months of property tax? Can I ask them to reduce the number of months?

Once the loan is closed, can I ask the mortgage company to remove the escrow account for property tax right away (as I plan to pay property tax on my own)? Or do I need to wait for a few months before asking them to remove escrow account?

Thanks.
Jul 19, 2020 04:48 AM
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ssmith891Jul 19, 2020 04:48 AM
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Quote from apple1122 :
Hi,

Better is asking to prepaid 2 months + additional 6 months property tax at closing. Anyone know what is the reason that they ask for 8 months of property tax? Can I ask them to reduce the number of months?

Once the loan is closed, can I ask the mortgage company to remove the escrow account for property tax right away (as I plan to pay property tax on my own)? Or do I need to wait for a few months before asking them to remove escrow account?

Thanks.
Why not just opt out of an escrow altogether?
Jul 19, 2020 05:07 AM
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CycloneFWJul 19, 2020 05:07 AM
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Quote from apple1122 :
Better is asking to prepaid 2 months + additional 6 months property tax at closing. Anyone know what is the reason that they ask for 8 months of property tax? Can I ask them to reduce the number of months?
Are all 8 months in Section G of the Loan Estimate? Or are 6 months in Section F and 2 months in Section G?
Jul 19, 2020 12:21 PM
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nagraw4Jul 19, 2020 12:21 PM
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Quote from pamif :
As the rate is still dropping, the best strategy is to max lender credits instead of lowering the rate. Pocket more profit for the time being, and give enough room for the next refinance, which you will need soon anyway.
I agree. In 6 months we are going to be refi-ing 30yrs at 2%.
Jul 19, 2020 01:17 PM
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physio1213Jul 19, 2020 01:17 PM
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Quote from stoneheath :
My current rate is 2.75% on a 15 year with a local credit union in FL. Is it possible to get a rate lower than 2.75% with $0 out of pocket after Amex $2500 credit or with some money in pocket after Amex $2500 credit?
I got 2.25 with zero points and $177 lenders credit for 15 yrs. I got quote from loan cabin and better beat it.

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Jul 19, 2020 01:33 PM
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lowmazdaJul 19, 2020 01:33 PM
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Quote from apple1122 :
Hi,

Better is asking to prepaid 2 months + additional 6 months property tax at closing. Anyone know what is the reason that they ask for 8 months of property tax? Can I ask them to reduce the number of months?

Once the loan is closed, can I ask the mortgage company to remove the escrow account for property tax right away (as I plan to pay property tax on my own)? Or do I need to wait for a few months before asking them to remove escrow account?

Thanks.
Quote from ssmith891 :
Why not just opt out of an escrow altogether?
I just put 11 months of property tax and hazard insurance in to an escrow acct. It all depends on when it's paid out. Both of my bills are due in November.
Last edited by lowmazda July 19, 2020 at 07:35 AM.
Jul 19, 2020 01:34 PM
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lowmazdaJul 19, 2020 01:34 PM
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Quote from ssmith891 :
Why not just opt out of an escrow altogether?
the trade off is often a slightly higher interest rate.
Jul 19, 2020 03:01 PM
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jpell123Jul 19, 2020 03:01 PM
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Quote from lowmazda :
the trade off is often a slightly higher interest rate.
Or, paying slightly higher closing costs. LenderFi told me that my closing costs would be about $200-$300 more if I waived escrow
Jul 19, 2020 03:02 PM
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PhasersJul 19, 2020 03:02 PM
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Quote from stoneheath :
My current rate is 2.75% on a 15 year with a local credit union in FL. Is it possible to get a rate lower than 2.75% with $0 out of pocket after Amex $2500 credit or with some money in pocket after Amex $2500 credit?
I got 2.375% with a $2500 credit + Amex $2500, against ~$2k in closing costs. Loan amount $350k, LTV 58%.
Jul 19, 2020 03:12 PM
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tearfromredJul 19, 2020 03:12 PM
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Just for reference, My loan funded on 6/5 (whole process was 2-3 weeks). I received the $2500 credit on 7/9, so just a little longer than a month. Pleasantly surprised, I expected the credit to take longer
Jul 19, 2020 03:32 PM
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stealth11Jul 19, 2020 03:32 PM
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Quote from pamif :
At such a low rate, borrow as much as you can, and invest the extra into a fund such as qqq that has an average return of 20% for the past 10 years.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/Q...ance?p=QQQ
Take it one step further. Cash out refinance for 100,000 cash. Open an Interactive Brokers margin account (best rates) and buy QQQ on margin. What could go wrong? Smilie
Jul 19, 2020 03:42 PM
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sellerslbcJul 19, 2020 03:42 PM
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Quote from physio1213 :
I got 2.25 with zero points and $177 lenders credit for 15 yrs. I got quote from loan cabin and better beat it.
Was the quote from loan cabin 2.5? I would like to try to match your amazing rate. And want to know what I have to present to better to get them to match it. Well done.

Edit: saw your earlier post. Well done.

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Jul 19, 2020 03:42 PM
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chuckydee9Jul 19, 2020 03:42 PM
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Quote from stealth11 :
Take it one step further. Cash out refinance for 100,000 cash. Open an Interactive Brokers margin account (best rates) and buy QQQ on margin. What could go wrong? Smilie
Don't stop there.. TQQQ instead of just QQQ..

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