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Last Edited by Phaenon December 21, 2019 at 07:36 PM
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Call 1-866-217-4736 from a registered phone and limit Citi selling your information to third parties!

This applies to all Citi cards including cards like Costco issued by Citi.

Remember to ask for a written confirmation in the automated system at the end.


If you don't understand why this is important read the NYT article or below:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/...york-times

There are massive data aggregation companies like Factual and Roam. They pay money to apps to give people your location history and build your profile.

They then buy information from financial institutions to tie it to the places you visited

Then they buy information and match up financial transaction time stamps to anonymized store purchase data (from like free rewards cards) to figure out what you bought.

They also then collect public information about you on age, and other demographics

Then they sell all of this as a package to anyone who will pay for it.

update: for those of you who asked about Chase, you must call: 1-888-868-8618. It requires more information than the Citi system when asked if you are a resident of CA, just say yes and limit additional sharing!

Amex: 1- 855-297-7748
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agnosticmayhem
12-21-2019 at 03:58 PM.
12-21-2019 at 03:58 PM.
Quote from shinyraindrops :
Sift is also a huge data aggregator. I've been warning people about stuff like this for a long time. People respond that they don't care who knows what brand of toothpaste they buy. They should care since it's just not about that. It's about everything you do being in a file. One person who got a dump of the data the aggregators had on them was shocked to find that her messages with her airbnb hosts were part of the file.

Speaking of which, you can now get a dump of all the data they have on you. You can even ask them to delete your file. Thanks California!

How to get the data and get it deleted. TIA
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Smoke1234
12-21-2019 at 04:03 PM.
12-21-2019 at 04:03 PM.
I need the phone number to opt-out of SD. These SOB's always know what I like which causes me to spend.
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wspfan
12-21-2019 at 04:09 PM.
12-21-2019 at 04:09 PM.
Quote from PowerfulHamster899 :
Everyone sells you information including slickdeal. I sure my email has already been sold.

Yep. I saw software this week that had capability of tracking people near a gym (any gym) and how that info is being sold to competition/businesses. That info included everything about the people in that area (names, days you went to that gym, emails, phone number, gps tracking, DOB, etc.). Scary stuff. This software can be used for any purpose too. The gym was just an example of what it could do. Sad thing, the software is fully legal too.

Facebook and Google are the worst - they make billions selling everything about you to marketing companies and govt databases.
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wspfan
12-21-2019 at 04:35 PM.
12-21-2019 at 04:35 PM.
Quote from agnosticmayhem :
How to get the data and get it deleted. TIA

Do yourself a favor. Order a NCF (National Credit File) report on yourself - it's FREE. Report is 60 plus pages. You will have it in 3-4 days.

http://www.specialtycreditreports...ns-bureau/

It's shows what info is out there about you (marketing records, education records, work records, email addresses, phone numbers, criminal, court records, driving record, credit records, CLUE - insurance records, family, etc) and how the companies use that info to offer you insurance, credit, etc.

I stumbled upon this when the car insurance company stated I had a claim (I never have) on my record. So I had to fight them. Only way was to get a free NCF on myself and dispute it from there. They have to remove it. Luckily, I had someone tell me about this site.
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asuchemist
12-21-2019 at 04:41 PM.
12-21-2019 at 04:41 PM.
Quote from PowerfulHamster899 :
Everyone sells you information including slickdeal. I sure my email has already been sold.
Exactly. When you buy a house big gov gives all your info away for "free". Credit cards sells your data. ISP sells your data. Cell phone carrier sells your data. Everyone making money.

In return we get "good" deals matched up to what we normally buy.

It's only a bad thing when crooks use it to do bad things with it. That's why we need contact our political leaders to create laws to protect consumers.
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mike2012
12-21-2019 at 04:44 PM.
12-21-2019 at 04:44 PM.
Quote from wspfan :
Do yourself a favor. Order a NCF (National Credit File) report on yourself - it's FREE. Report is 60 plus pages. You will have it in 3-4 days.

http://www.specialtycreditreports...ns-bureau/

It's shows what info is out there about you (marketing records, education records, work records, email addresses, phone numbers, criminal, court records, driving record, credit records, CLUE - insurance records, family, etc) and how the companies use that info to offer you insurance, credit, etc.

I stumbled upon this when the car insurance company stated I had a claim (I never have) on my record. So I had to fight them. Only way was to get a free NCF on myself and dispute it from there. They have to remove it. Luckily, I had someone tell me about this site.

Thank you for the info. It,but, looks like out of stock now.
Edit: Also it's not free any more via internet order.
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Last edited by mike2012 December 21, 2019 at 04:49 PM.
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GaiaGeek
12-21-2019 at 04:48 PM.
12-21-2019 at 04:48 PM.
Quote from MirchXe :
They asked for the full credit card number to be put in...and I discontinued the call at that stage!
If you were asked for your full card number, I'm guessing you didn't call from the number associated with your account.
Quote from PowerfulHamster899 :
Everyone sells you information including slickdeal. I sure my email has already been sold.
You say that as if that somehow makes it OK.
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logicpad
12-21-2019 at 05:04 PM.
12-21-2019 at 05:04 PM.
Anyway to request stop this practice via app? Or online?
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yxs8016
12-21-2019 at 05:08 PM.
12-21-2019 at 05:08 PM.
Time to cancel all my Citi cards. They are kinda suck now since they can cut lots benefits.
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JayM3585
12-21-2019 at 05:10 PM.
12-21-2019 at 05:10 PM.
Quote from yxs8016 :
Time to cancel all my Citi cards. They are kinda suck now since they can cut lots benefits.
don't kid yourself all do it or soon will
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wspfan
12-21-2019 at 05:21 PM.
12-21-2019 at 05:21 PM.
Quote from mike2012 :
Thank you for the info. It,but, looks like out of stock now.
Edit: Also it's not free any more via internet order.
I will look for the free link. I know mine was free.
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brandofo
12-21-2019 at 05:24 PM.
12-21-2019 at 05:24 PM.
Quote from shinyraindrops :
Sift is also a huge data aggregator. I've been warning people about stuff like this for a long time. People respond that they don't care who knows what brand of toothpaste they buy. They should care since it's just not about that. It's about everything you do being in a file. One person who got a dump of the data the aggregators had on them was shocked to find that her messages with her airbnb hosts were part of the file.

Speaking of which, you can now get a dump of all the data they have on you. You can even ask them to delete your file. Thanks California!
How do I ask for a copy of my data, and to delete my file?
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SuplexCity
12-21-2019 at 05:34 PM.
12-21-2019 at 05:34 PM.
Will opting out affect pre-screened offers? I have gotten some pre-approved offers on Credit cards which helps reducing credit hits and dont want to miss out on those.
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SuplexCity
12-21-2019 at 05:36 PM.
12-21-2019 at 05:36 PM.
Quote from yxs8016 :
Time to cancel all my Citi cards. They are kinda suck now since they can cut lots benefits.
Yup I used my double cash card for pretty much every purchase. Even though I rarely ever used any benefit, it was nice to have assurances but ever since they got rid of that I have basically stopped using the card. I am still keeping it since it is one of my oldest cards with a high limit.
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Phaenon
12-21-2019 at 06:07 PM.
12-21-2019 at 06:07 PM.
Quote from yxs8016 :
Time to cancel all my Citi cards. They are kinda suck now since they can cut lots benefits.
I love how mods added a referral link to my post
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