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generachq via eBay has Powermate PM2200i 2200 Starting Watt Ultra Quiet CARB Compliant Inverter Generator on sale for $319. Shipping is free. Thanks ElatedWealth339

Features:
  • 80cc Powermate 4-Stroke OHV Engine w/ Low Oil Shutdown
  • 2200 starting watts and 1700 running watts
  • Up to 7 hours of run time at 1/2 load
    • Economy Mode: Runs Up To 10.75 Hours On 1.2 Gallons Of Fuel
  • 50-State Model / CARB Compliant
  • 62 dB Operational Volume

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Includes a 2-Year Residential & 1-Year Commercial Warranty. -SaltyOne

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This is the cheapest 2200 watt inverter generator I have seen. The closest I have seen is $389 or $400 for 2200 watts. This is posted on the eBay Deals page today.

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Powering your home's electrical panel:


i used an interlock kit so i could power my entire panel (all 120V circuits, not at the same time obviously), just for convenience sake. an interlock prevents you from operating the generator with the main circuit on, thus preventing back feeding your panel by accident. Back feeding is when your generator sends electricity back to the outside lines b/c someone forgot to turn the main circuit breaker off. this mistake could (and has) injure or kill a line worker who is out there making repairs. direct feeding a panel without interlock or transfer switch sub panel is illegal due t potential for back feeding. here are some steps regarding interlock. as always, check your local codes for adherence to regulation.

Step 1: Find an interlock kit that's compatible with your panel. Chances are the model in HD/Lowe's will not fit your. You can buy them here https://www.geninterlock.com/ or here http://www.interlockkit.com/

Step 2: Buy a double pole breaker that's compatible with your electrical box. Home Depot or your local electric supply house will have this.

Step 3: Buy generator inlet: http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Controls-PB30-Generator-Generators/dp/B000BQT47S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&q... [amazon.com]

Step 4: Buy L14-30 to L5-30 adapter cable where both hots are crossed so you can power BOTH sides of your panel even though you have a 120V generator: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...ge_o02_s00 . You could make your own cable for $10, but it's nice to have a factory molded rugged cable that you don't have to worry about. One end of this cable will go into the L14-30 inlet in #3 and the other end gives you a L5-30 connection. See step 5.

Step 5: Buy a 25ft or 50ft L5-30 extension cord (length is up to you). This cord is what will go from your adapter in your inlet in Step 3 to your generator. I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-20571-Generator-Extension-Eextension/dp/B003HUYK5Q/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8... [amazon.com] . The reason why I am suggesting that you buy the L5-30 cord instead of a regular 5-15 cord + L5-30 to 5-15 adapter, is to future proof your setup should you ever decide to buy a 2nd Inverter generator and use the parallel kit (which has a L5-30 plug for 3000W output power), it's up to you really and what you think you generator power needs might be in the future. if you only plan on using single 120V inverter gens like this (1 of them), save the money and use a 5-15 cord and a L5-30 to 5-15 adapter

Step 6: Buy L5-30 to 5-15 adapter plug which goes into the generator if you want to run directly from a single generator and not the parallel kit (you should have the option of doing both, as a fall back, so you aren't forcing yourself to run both): http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-Locking-Adapter-Female-Connector/dp/B002YB108Y/ref=sr_1_5?tag=slickdea... [amazon.com]

Step 7: Either do it yourself per the Youtube videos or pay an electrician. You can buy the rest of the materials at Home Depot (romex, wall anchors, conduit, etc). Since you are providing all materials or most of them, the electrician should only be charging you a labor rate. This job should not take longer than 2 hours. If you are running across long distances or through thick masonry...ok add an hour. You should not have to pay more than 2-3 labor hrs for this job. If you want to save money, you can do all of the labor intensive work of mounting the inlet, running the conduit, and running the romex...then all he has to do is install the interlock panel, the double pole breaker for the generator, and make the final connection to your box. Figure he'll charge you (1) labor hour to do all of that. if you have never done anything electrical before, just hire the electrician for peace of mind.






NOTE 1: You will not be able to power any 240V appliances with this generator.Turn OFF all 240V circuits (except the double pole circuit you are using with your generator inlet and interlock). This is to prevent the possibility of overloading the neutral

NOTE 2: i attached photos. don't pay attention to the fact there are (2) inlets. it's b/c where i installed these, it's a multi residence with 2 service panels

NOTE 3: since i had the panels open, i threw on whole house surge protectors. bought them from a slickdeal back in 2012 i think

NOTE 4: you can fit (2) of these on a harbor freight large dolly, using scrap deck boards across.

NOTE 5: it's good practice to install run meters on these. installation simple the meter itself is only $5-6 on ebay or amazon. the run meter wire is what you see on the last pic of the 2 red generators, coming out from the front vent

NOTE 6: Another option to run a regular extension cord directly from the inlet, is to use one of these adapters: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...UTF8&psc=1
Pretty sure this is the Pulsar that is sold under a ton of brands. I bought two of the Workforce branded ones from Aldi at Christmas on clearance. Super quiet. Haven't used it extensively yet, but seems well built.

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c3688t
04-20-2020 at 07:00 PM.
04-20-2020 at 07:00 PM.
Hmm, this or Horror Fright at the local store. This one is 1700 watt rated and no sound published.
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greeknasty
04-21-2020 at 12:03 PM.
04-21-2020 at 12:03 PM.
Looks similar to the pulsar in fact I bet it's the same. Great unit..and quiet..
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Moscar80
04-21-2020 at 10:29 PM.
04-21-2020 at 10:29 PM.
Db looks to be approx 66 at full load. It appears identical to the generac 2200i that seems to have replaced it. Both owned and sold by generac, same specs.
EDIT- Verified with Generac/Powermate that this unit has a Ducar provided 79cc engine (presumably Yamaha mz80 clone) built to "Generac's specifications" per my inquiry with the Generac/Powermate support team.

I went with this one even though the 'Bay taxes me over the WEN 56235 on sale at $419 because of the claim of using oem engines (Now known to not be true in this instance as the "name brand" engine they refer to is the Generac name). The guys on the Wen thread seem to have noted that the newer model Wen are a new engine supplier. For $345 after tax, I bit-We'll see.
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phanman11
04-22-2020 at 06:34 AM.
04-22-2020 at 06:34 AM.
Pretty sure this is the Pulsar that is sold under a ton of brands. I bought two of the Workforce branded ones from Aldi at Christmas on clearance. Super quiet. Haven't used it extensively yet, but seems well built.
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likeaw
04-22-2020 at 06:40 AM.
04-22-2020 at 06:40 AM.
I keep waiting for these to drop drastically in price. This is closer to what they should be regularly priced.
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drew2money
04-22-2020 at 06:49 AM.
04-22-2020 at 06:49 AM.
Quote from likeaw :
I keep waiting for these to drop drastically in price. This is closer to what they should be regularly priced.

With dual fuel...
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MasterDealster
04-22-2020 at 07:32 AM.
04-22-2020 at 07:32 AM.
Quote from Moscar80 :
Db looks to be approx 66 at full load. It appears identical to the generac 2200i that seems to have replaced it. Both owned and sold by generac, same specs. Power mate website says they use name brand engines, and this sounds like it would have the 80cc yamaha.

I went with this one even though the 'Bay taxes me over the WEN 56235 on sale at $419 because of the claim of using oem engines. The guys on the Wen thread seem to have noted that the newer model Wen are a new engine supplier. For $345 after tax, I bit-We'll see.
This one looks identical to Pulsar, which uses Ducar engines.
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04-22-2020 at 07:32 AM.
04-22-2020 at 07:32 AM.
Quote from phanman11 :
Pretty sure this is the Pulsar that is sold under a ton of brands. I bought two of the Workforce branded ones from Aldi at Christmas on clearance. Super quiet. Haven't used it extensively yet, but seems well built.
how much were they on clearance at Aldi? running watts?
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mrflip99
04-22-2020 at 08:05 AM.
04-22-2020 at 08:05 AM.
*Disclaimer - I'm a rookie with generators.

How does this compare to the Honda eu2200i? Is this basically the replica at budget pricing? Is the Honda considered the gold standard?
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Moscar80
04-22-2020 at 08:38 AM.
04-22-2020 at 08:38 AM.
Quote from empathyislost :
This one looks identical to Pulsar, which uses Ducar engines.
Thanks for elaborating on the engine--I should have done more digging but at 1am I'm more inclined to make an impulse buy. The Powermate website did state they use name brand engines.

Yup, sure looks like Pulsar to me. I should have clarified my understanding when I made the Generac lineage claim. Yes, it looks like Pulsar makes these as well as generac's, and many others. Even though designs are copied, you can still compare case designs to see what brands are badge engineered.

What interests and concerns me are the potential differences in the quality of the constituent components. For example- the Lincoln 140 HD welder sold at home depot (the HD implied Home Depot not Heavy Duty) has nylon wire feeds, while the one I can get at the local welding shop for the same price has metal. A detail I was unaware of until purchasing consumables at my local Haun.

This is illlustrative of the fact that these badge engineered products also might have a component quality difference and not just a cosmetic one, which concerns me. However, given that the generac and powermate versions of this generator are the only ones that appear to have the weather covers on the outlets, perhaps there are no compromises in build quality as the design modification appears to be beneficial so hopefully no unseen sacrifices were made.

On the powermate site they did state that they use oem engines. I'd be interested in seeing Generac's response to an inquiry regarding the provenance of the engine in particular unit.
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Moscar80
04-22-2020 at 08:58 AM.
04-22-2020 at 08:58 AM.
Quote from mrflip99 :
*Disclaimer - I'm a rookie with generators.

How does this compare to the Honda eu2200i? Is this basically the replica at budget pricing? Is the Honda considered the gold standard?
I've owned a honda eu2200i, a Honda EG2800, Northstar 2700 with a honda engine and brushless gen head. I don't like the fact that the newer honda needs the timing belt changed every 250 hours.

Bottom line, at just over 1/3 the price of what you'd likely get the Honda for, I wouldn't hesitate--and I didn't. 2 year warranty- yes, you can use the ol' Tommy Boy- you can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed...but with the numerous brands applied to the generic version of this unit, that's a whole lot of companies willing to take the risk with their brand rep.

For me it was $345 shipped-- so $10.20 a month base ownership cost over the 2 year warranty period for this generator. I'm ok with those odds.
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Medic311
04-22-2020 at 09:15 AM.
04-22-2020 at 09:15 AM.
the A-iPower one for $319 on Amazon was the better deal. they are OOS right now but sporadically get more in stock. i bought 4 of them for family members. that one is a Yamaha 79cc clone engine made by "Senci"

basically a copy off of the Costco version which has the actual Yamaha MZ80 engine

this is a popular design - used by pulsar, this brand, quip all, duromax, etc. nothing wrong with it though, good deal with the times we are in. has been lower - ~ $275'ish

HOWEVER - you can try to use the 10% off coupon TRYTEN i just received in an email from ebay. final price comes to $288 and i get another $15'ish in eBay bucks back due to the 5% promotion.

in for 1 as a spare
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04-22-2020 at 09:17 AM.
04-22-2020 at 09:17 AM.
Quote from Moscar80 :
I've owned a honda eu2200i, a Honda EG2800, Northstar 2700 with a honda engine and brushless gen head. I don't like the fact that the newer honda needs the timing belt changed every 250 hours.

Bottom line, at just over 1/3 the price of what you'd likely get the Honda for, I wouldn't hesitate--and I didn't. 2 year warranty- yes, you can use the ol' Tommy Boy- you can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed...but with the numerous brands applied to the generic version of this unit, that's a whole lot of companies willing to take the risk with their brand rep.

For me it was $345 shipped-- so $10.20 a month base ownership cost over the 2 year warranty period for this generator. I'm ok with those odds.

^^^ This .

this is exactly why i always suggest the Yamaha-designed engines now (ones with MZ80 engine or a 79cc clone). an engine design which is simpler and truly maintenance free outside of oil changes and spark plug
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