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Newegg.com has 32GB (2x16GB) G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series RGB DDR4 3600 Desktop Memory (F4-3600C16D-32GTZN) for $234.99. Shipping is free. Thanks twallace

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Samsung B-Die and a solid ram for overclocking or run at XMP speeds below.
DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
CAS Latency 16
Timing 16-16-16-36
Voltage 1.35V
Compatible with AMD Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs & AMD X570 Motherboards

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If you don't need to *reliably* hit advertised XMP speeds with tight timings on Ryzen or particularly to try overclocking your RAM, yes, there are DEFINITELY cheaper options.

But if you don't understand what "Samsung B-die" even means, please don't bother threadcrapping with "but I found this other Ram with same MHz and CL16 for cheaper!" or "32x2 with CL18 cost only 40 more!"

This is a good deal for what it is.

Whether or not Samsung B-die is "worth it", or whether overclocking RAM "is worth it" in general is a different argument, and there's plenty of fun to be had taking that to places like reddit. There are certainly intermediate options like Micron E die that review as quite solid but still not with quite the OCing reputation as higher binned B-die (personally I recently bought some Crucial Ballistix that are Micron E die and well reviewed and hit XMP no problem and totally stable, because I don't care about trying to do max OCs/etc, but will probably tune a bit tighter on timings). But then you get people cluelessly posting Hynix C die as if it's all the same thing: it's not.
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twallace
06-08-2020 at 06:50 AM.
06-08-2020 at 06:50 AM.
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Husbeard
06-08-2020 at 10:55 AM.
06-08-2020 at 10:55 AM.
$10 off, SO slick!
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turbodog
06-08-2020 at 11:13 AM.
06-08-2020 at 11:13 AM.
Nice ram. Big thumbs up.
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SDBuddy
06-08-2020 at 12:22 PM.
06-08-2020 at 12:22 PM.
Quote from blackflag486 :
$10 off, SO slick!
B-Die does not have drastic price drops typically.

These are awesome. Reps OP.

One may get to 3733 CL14, or 3800 CL16, and if you're fortunate 3800 CL15 or 14.

If you need only 16GB the Viper Steel 4400's are similar but are a little more pricey per GB (Newegg today only for 125).
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salincer
06-08-2020 at 01:08 PM.
06-08-2020 at 01:08 PM.
Thanks OP. I was using some Viper steel 4000mhz. It was B die and was able to get to CL16 at 3600mhz. However one of the ram slots on my motherboard is bad!!

So I'm going to go from 4x8gb to 2x16gb.
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taswyn
06-08-2020 at 01:20 PM.
06-08-2020 at 01:20 PM.
If you don't need to *reliably* hit advertised XMP speeds with tight timings on Ryzen or particularly to try overclocking your RAM, yes, there are DEFINITELY cheaper options.

But if you don't understand what "Samsung B-die" even means, please don't bother threadcrapping with "but I found this other Ram with same MHz and CL16 for cheaper!" or "32x2 with CL18 cost only 40 more!"

This is a good deal for what it is.

Whether or not Samsung B-die is "worth it", or whether overclocking RAM "is worth it" in general is a different argument, and there's plenty of fun to be had taking that to places like reddit. There are certainly intermediate options like Micron E die that review as quite solid but still not with quite the OCing reputation as higher binned B-die (personally I recently bought some Crucial Ballistix that are Micron E die and well reviewed and hit XMP no problem and totally stable, because I don't care about trying to do max OCs/etc, but will probably tune a bit tighter on timings). But then you get people cluelessly posting Hynix C die as if it's all the same thing: it's not.
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StarboyK
06-08-2020 at 01:20 PM.
06-08-2020 at 01:20 PM.
Heya!
For someone looking to build a new rig, I don't understand that difference between these sticks, and whatever basic Corsair 2x16GB DDR 3200 plain-ol' sticks I can grab off amazon for $155.

Could someone point in the direction of a spec sheet or comparison site so that I might better understand the value of these sticks? - or is it just the clock speed that makes for such a drastic price jump?

For reference, running an i5 4690k (OC'd at 4Ghz, watercooled) with 16GB DDR3 @ 1600mhz on a MSI z97-g41. Waiting for the b550's to hit the market before pulling the trigger on any parts, but since that's soon, figure it's about time to learn!
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LeviathanUltima
06-08-2020 at 01:31 PM.
06-08-2020 at 01:31 PM.
Quote from StarboyK :
Heya!
For someone looking to build a new rig, I don't understand that difference between these sticks, and whatever basic Corsair 2x16GB DDR 3200 plain-ol' sticks I can grab off amazon for $155.

Could someone point in the direction of a spec sheet or comparison site so that I might better understand the value of these sticks? - or is it just the clock speed that makes for such a drastic price jump?

For reference, running an i5 4690k (OC'd at 4Ghz, watercooled) with 16GB DDR3 @ 1600mhz on a MSI z97-g41. Waiting for the b550's to hit the market before pulling the trigger on any parts, but since that's soon, figure it's about time to learn!
iif you are going AMD, bdie is worth more to you because the infinity fabric is tied to RAM speed. Infinity fabric is the main communication bus for AMD between their cores. Lower CL and faster clock on RAM can help you get more fps on AMD system. Intel system still benefit, but more of frame to frame consistency as oppose to more fps in most games. Few games will see fps benefits with faster and lower CL ram on intel. As usual these benefits tend to be less as you play at higher resolution and at higher graphic settings where you will be mostly GPU bound. So in summary it depends if bdie is worth it to you. You have to look at the specific cases and make the determination. Google would be your best friend on finding information on bdie. I would just search "bdie AMD gaming fps." Remove some key words if you can't find anything specific.
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mr7rizt4n
06-08-2020 at 01:39 PM.
06-08-2020 at 01:39 PM.
i just paid $360 for 64gb of seemingly the same ram

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64...6820232865

am i missing something or are these the same?
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mr7rizt4n
06-08-2020 at 01:50 PM.
06-08-2020 at 01:50 PM.
Quote from LeviathanUltima :
iif you are going AMD, bdie is worth more to you because the infinity fabric is tied to RAM speed. Infinity fabric is the main communication bus for AMD between their cores. Lower CL and faster clock on RAM can help you get more fps on AMD system. Intel system still benefit, but more of frame to frame consistency as oppose to more fps in most games. Few games will see fps benefits with faster and lower CL ram on intel. As usual these benefits tend to be less as you play at higher resolution and at higher graphic settings where you will be mostly GPU bound. So in summary it depends if bdie is worth it to you. You have to look at the specific cases and make the determination. Google would be your best friend on finding information on bdie. I would just search "bdie AMD gaming fps." Remove some key words if you can't find anything specific.
you mention that b die is optimal but you seem to talk more about speeds and latencies being the reason. any comment on the difference between samsung b die vs other when you're talking same speed / latency across the two?
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SDBuddy
06-08-2020 at 01:59 PM.
06-08-2020 at 01:59 PM.
Quote from mr7rizt4n :
you mention that b die is optimal but you seem to talk more about speeds and latencies being the reason. any comment on the difference between samsung b die vs other when you're talking same speed / latency across the two?
B-die can be driven with high voltages, tight subtimings, and be pushed to give low latency and high bandwidth. It's like a sports car but needs tuning (high maintenance, don't expect XMP to just work).
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mr7rizt4n
06-08-2020 at 02:08 PM.
06-08-2020 at 02:08 PM.
Quote from SDBuddy :
B-die can be driven with high voltages, tight subtimings, and be pushed to give low latency and high bandwidth. It's like a sports car but needs tuning (high maintenance, don't expect XMP to just work).
got it. thanks for the info. I'm short on time and energy for these things so have been planning to just stick with XMP (or at least whatever amd calls it).

i hate how invisible this decision is though. i totally appreciate what you're saying and fully understand it but i'd rather be exposed to these decisions by G.Skill marketing these parts differently. It looks 1000% the same product, except it's more expensive than what i bought. I would have liked to see the description reflect the decision point.

oh, and speaking of sports cars and 381HP 4x4 Slickness, i've got 382 so take that. lol
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