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rdb9279
06-24-2020 at 10:28 PM.
06-24-2020 at 10:28 PM.
Thanks and repped!
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Interface
06-24-2020 at 10:33 PM.
06-24-2020 at 10:33 PM.
Same price at Best Buy for local pickup Model:SX950U

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybe...toreId=547

Specs: https://www.cyberpowersystems.com...by/st900u/

EDIT: Does not have a user-replaceable battery.
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BeepBopBeep
06-24-2020 at 11:17 PM.
06-24-2020 at 11:17 PM.
Quote from Interface :
Same price at Best Buy for local pickup Model:SX950U

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybe...toreId=547

Specs: https://www.cyberpowersystems.com...by/st900u/

EDIT: Does not have a user-replaceable battery.

Aren't the batteries usually close to the price of new units?
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jclu52
06-25-2020 at 04:53 AM.
06-25-2020 at 04:53 AM.
Quote from LegoRockets :
Aren't the batteries usually close to the price of new units?
Not necessarily. If you buy brand name, sure. Sometimes you can get a cheap price on brand name, too. For 3rd party that works as good as new, I have purchased replacement batteries at a fraction of the whole unit or brand name for that matter and it's been working great!!
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playa7x
06-25-2020 at 05:06 AM.
06-25-2020 at 05:06 AM.
Quote from Interface :
Same price at Best Buy for local pickup Model:SX950U

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybe...toreId=547

Specs: https://www.cyberpowersystems.com...by/st900u/

EDIT: Does not have a user-replaceable battery.

What does field replacement mean?
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BeepBopBeep
06-25-2020 at 05:13 AM.
06-25-2020 at 05:13 AM.
Quote from jclu52 :
Not necessarily. If you buy brand name, sure. Sometimes you can get a cheap price on brand name, too. For 3rd party that works as good as new, I have purchased replacement batteries at a fraction of the whole unit or brand name for that matter and it's been working great!!

Thanks, I didn't know that, I always read on SD that batteries sometimes cost as much as a new unit.
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06-25-2020 at 05:21 AM.
06-25-2020 at 05:21 AM.
Quote from playa7x :
What does field replacement mean?
I have searched the answer for a while but the definite answer was: it's not user replaceable. Another answer was that it needs technician to replace the battery for you.

So the short answer is that you can't repalce the battery yourself.
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Rand4
06-25-2020 at 05:52 AM.
06-25-2020 at 05:52 AM.
recently replaced battery on my 1300apc unit.

new unit would have been 129-150

battery was $57 for decent 9ah (stock is 7ah)

also the specs on this unit are crap

Line-interactive · 510 watts · 950 VA · 2 min battery (full load)

since when is 950va = 510watts? thats less than a .6 power factor. so you really need to consider this a 510w ups.and 2min at full load??

its not that hard to have 500w plugged in if you have networking equipment a gaming 27" monitor and a pc with decent graphics card.

IIRC mine idles at around 140, hits over 400 gaming
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06-25-2020 at 11:11 AM.

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06-25-2020 at 11:11 AM.
Quote from playa7x :
What does field replacement mean?
Older UPS up to early/mid-2010's all had "field replaceable" batteries, so do more expensive recent units. These units have batteries isolated from line voltage (120V AC) so it is safe to unplug and replace the battery while the UPS is plugged into the wall and devices plugged into the UPS, and you can touch the battery terminals without getting shocked.

To save cost (in circuitry, and the double plastic walls and cover of battery compartment), plus to improve inverter efficiency (slightly), recent low cost models don't have line isolated batteries. You can get shocked if you inadvertently touch the battery terminal while replacing it. This is why these models no longer have a door for battery replacement. The battery inside is still connected with F1/F2 terminals and no different from field replaceable unit, and you can certainly unscrew the UPS to replace it, hopefully with the UPS unplugged from the wall and wait a minute or two to let the high voltage capacitor self discharge (as the battery next to high voltage internals, unlike isolated units with "safe" battery compartment).

In short, "non user replaceable battery" is more a liability clause.

UPS up to around 900VA output and up to $100 tend to use up to 9Ah lead acid batteries and generics start at around $20 each.
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06-25-2020 at 01:11 PM.
06-25-2020 at 01:11 PM.
Quote from Rand4 :
recently replaced battery on my 1300apc unit.

new unit would have been 129-150

battery was $57 for decent 9ah (stock is 7ah)

also the specs on this unit are crap

Line-interactive · 510 watts · 950 VA · 2 min battery (full load)

since when is 950va = 510watts? thats less than a .6 power factor. so you really need to consider this a 510w ups.and 2min at full load??

its not that hard to have 500w plugged in if you have networking equipment a gaming 27" monitor and a pc with decent graphics card.

IIRC mine idles at around 140, hits over 400 gaming
May be it's time to separate your "equipments" into seperate UPS?
I did when a thunderstorm hits and we were without power over 10 hours a while back when my modem/router/wifi went down and I have to do everything on my phone.
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jclu52
06-25-2020 at 01:11 PM.
06-25-2020 at 01:11 PM.
Quote from FatFaluz :
Older UPS up to early/mid-2010's all had "field replaceable" batteries, so do more expensive recent units. These units have batteries isolated from line voltage (120V AC) so it is safe to unplug and replace the battery while the UPS is plugged into the wall and devices plugged into the UPS, and you can touch the battery terminals without getting shocked.

To save cost (in circuitry, and the double plastic walls and cover of battery compartment), plus to improve inverter efficiency (slightly), recent low cost models don't have line isolated batteries. You can get shocked if you inadvertently touch the battery terminal while replacing it. This is why these models no longer have a door for battery replacement. The battery inside is still connected with F1/F2 terminals and no different from field replaceable unit, and you can certainly unscrew the UPS to replace it, hopefully with the UPS unplugged from the wall and wait a minute or two to let the high voltage capacitor self discharge (as the battery next to high voltage internals, unlike isolated units with "safe" battery compartment).

In short, "non user replaceable battery" is more a liability clause.

UPS up to around 900VA output and up to $100 tend to use up to 9Ah lead acid batteries and generics start at around $20 each.
Thanks for the detail explanation.
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JLFORBES
06-25-2020 at 01:52 PM.
06-25-2020 at 01:52 PM.
Quote from Interface :
Same price at Best Buy for local pickup Model:SX950U

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybe...toreId=547 [bestbuy.com]

Specs: https://www.cyberpowersystems.com...by/st900u/ [cyberpowersystems.com]

EDIT: Does not have a user-replaceable battery.
Thanks for the BestBuy link! Great timing for me. I have the EC850VA and it just died over the weekend and the battery is not replaceable. I ordered the one you linked to at BestBuy (SX950U) and picked it up this morning... Thankfully this one has a replaceable battery.

EDIT: just got home and checked my old EC850VA... turns out i can replace the battery by opening it up... I can get a nice Interstate battery for under $28 delivered tomorrow from Amazon. I'll get it and use the UPS elsewhere. oh well...
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Rand4
06-25-2020 at 04:44 PM.
06-25-2020 at 04:44 PM.
Quote from FatFaluz :
Older UPS up to early/mid-2010's all had "field replaceable" batteries, so do more expensive recent units. These units have batteries isolated from line voltage (120V AC) so it is safe to unplug and replace the battery while the UPS is plugged into the wall and devices plugged into the UPS, and you can touch the battery terminals without getting shocked.

To save cost (in circuitry, and the double plastic walls and cover of battery compartment), plus to improve inverter efficiency (slightly), recent low cost models don't have line isolated batteries. You can get shocked if you inadvertently touch the battery terminal while replacing it. This is why these models no longer have a door for battery replacement. The battery inside is still connected with F1/F2 terminals and no different from field replaceable unit, and you can certainly unscrew the UPS to replace it, hopefully with the UPS unplugged from the wall and wait a minute or two to let the high voltage capacitor self discharge (as the battery next to high voltage internals, unlike isolated units with "safe" battery compartment).

In short, "non user replaceable battery" is more a liability clause.

UPS up to around 900VA output and up to $100 tend to use up to 9Ah lead acid batteries and generics start at around $20 each.
That doesnt compute, the battery should have low voltage dc going to it.. a car battery doesnt shock you if you touch a post? unless you are saying they put line voltage to a rechargable battery?

can you clarify?
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mikesteg
06-25-2020 at 07:53 PM.
06-25-2020 at 07:53 PM.
Quote from Rand4 :
That doesnt compute, the battery should have low voltage dc going to it.. a car battery doesnt shock you if you touch a post? unless you are saying they put line voltage to a rechargable battery?

can you clarify?

I think he's talking about the capacitor. Since most people have no idea what it is, and it can (non-intuitively) hold a charge when unplugged... Zap!

In practice, the "field replaceable" probably helps to sell more units, in addition to the legal protection.
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