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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

Old Thread - https://slickdeals.net/e/1223863-03-06-2009-best-mortgage-rates-from-big-reputable-lenders-30year-5-15year-5-arm-s-etc
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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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07-06-2020 at 07:55 AM.
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Any best rates for rental property - My current rates from better 3.75 with A+B+C = ~ 1600$ (42% LTV) - 260k loan amount, san Diego. (2.5k AMex credits)
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07-06-2020 at 07:59 AM.
07-06-2020 at 07:59 AM.
When you guy's are saying 0 points and everything, are you not adding at all to you principle from closing costs? Or are you getting Lender credits to pay fo the closing costs? I don't want to add anything my principle to make it work for me. I have a 3.625 30 year currently but want to do a 15 year 2.5 and will be moving in 2-3 years. It would only make sense if I didn't have to add anything to my principle in order to do a refinance. Possible?
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07-06-2020 at 09:03 AM.
07-06-2020 at 09:03 AM.
$325k Loan
75% LTV
800 credit
Chicago Market

Just closed 2.75% 30year at Better with
D+E = $1100
Credit = $3867
AMEX = $2500

Total profit = $5267
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07-06-2020 at 09:05 AM.
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Quote from tuck3979 :
$325k Loan
75% LTV
800 credit
Chicago Market

Just closed 2.75% 30year at Better with
D+E = $1100
Credit = $3867
AMEX = $2500

Total profit = $5267
Who is lender?
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tuck3979
07-06-2020 at 09:05 AM.
07-06-2020 at 09:05 AM.
LenderFi quoted me a 2.625% 30year no-cost on June 29th after one last try with them, unfortunately better wouldn't improve my offer, so I kept my close with Better as I was still happy with my deal.

LenderFi 30 year
A+B+C = $1157
Credit = $1211


I will monitor this thread and jump back in once people start posting 30year 2.5% no-cost loans. That's my next target (true no-cost).
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07-06-2020 at 09:18 AM.
07-06-2020 at 09:18 AM.
Quote from 4Squares :
Anyone tried boxhomeloans.com [boxhomeloans.com]? Site easy to navigate; no need to sign-up or enter your personal info just to get an instant quote.

Lowest at the moment: 1.990% for 15 year fixed (2.590% APR) - $4.8K total cost. Examples attached below...
Boxhomeloans.com is my Uncle's company. I did my first home loan through them with great rates and closing costs. Their site is easy to navigate and what you see in the quote is pretty close to an actual LE. For my refinance I'm currently doing, I got a LE from Boxhomeloans and got Better to beat it by $1000 plus the $2500 AMEX credit.
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07-06-2020 at 09:37 AM.
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Quote from Dealfinderextreme :
Boxhomeloans.com is my Uncle's company. I did my first home loan through them with great rates and closing costs. Their site is easy to navigate and what you see in the quote is pretty close to an actual LE. For my refinance I'm currently doing, I got a LE from Boxhomeloans and got Better to beat it by $1000 plus the $2500 AMEX credit.

Thanks for the reply but Boxhomeloan fees are too high at the 2.625% quoted rate for my numbers and a point charge of almost $4000 . 2.75% is at a $2000 charge. Same rate I am getting $1000 back from Loan Cabin which is the lowest I found to send to Better.com.


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07-06-2020 at 10:05 AM.
07-06-2020 at 10:05 AM.
Locked with loan depot

2.25% fixed for conventional 15-year loan

2.29% APR
0 points
Loan : 750 K
94582
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Quote from tuck3979 :
LenderFi quoted me a 2.625% 30year no-cost on June 29th after one last try with them, unfortunately better wouldn't improve my offer, so I kept my close with Better as I was still happy with my deal.

LenderFi 30 year
A+B+C = $1157
Credit = $1211


I will monitor this thread and jump back in once people start posting 30year 2.5% no-cost loans. That's my next target (true no-cost).
Can you pls PM the details of loan officer
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07-06-2020 at 10:48 AM.
07-06-2020 at 10:48 AM.
Quote from hondaboi01 :
2.5% fixed for conventional 15 year loan

2.66% APR
0 points
$1,380 lender credit
How did you get this? The rates looked a lot higher when I tried Frown it looks like they want $7500 for loan origination fees.
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07-06-2020 at 10:54 AM.
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Quote from tuck3979 :
$325k Loan
75% LTV
800 credit
Chicago Market

Just closed 2.75% 30year at Better with
D+E = $1100
Credit = $3867
AMEX = $2500

Total profit = $5267
geez how are people getting all these credits lol. seems like i gotta pay to get to those rates. in CA 235k refi Frown
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Quote from tuck3979 :
LenderFi quoted me a 2.625% 30year no-cost on June 29th after one last try with them, unfortunately better wouldn't improve my offer, so I kept my close with Better as I was still happy with my deal.

LenderFi 30 year
A+B+C = $1157
Credit = $1211


I will monitor this thread and jump back in once people start posting 30year 2.5% no-cost loans. That's my next target (true no-cost).

That's good. Can you PM me the loan officer info? Thanks
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Quote from woodtouch :
Locked with loan depot

2.25% fixed for conventional 15-year loan

2.29% APR
0 points
Loan : 750 K
94582

Do you have the loan officer info you can PM me? Thanks
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07-06-2020 at 11:06 AM.
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Tried LOANDEPOT and they offered me 2.75% for 15 years. WTH? I am in Houston, TX.
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Quote from pokymon :
Tried LOANDEPOT and they offered me 2.75% for 15 years. WTH? I am in Houston, TX.
That's not really helpful without context. new home, refi, loan amount, credit score, costs etc etc ...

I got an application through loandepot (look for details in a previous post) they matched my LE from another lender plus another $500 off. I wouldn't have switched except that they say they will not charge lender fees on the next time you refi the same property.

I've sent the loan depot LE to better.com, if they can match and I can get the $2500 amex too then I'll switch; would just lose out the credit report fee if it's done quickly (else I lose $500 on the appraisal)
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