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ABS Gaming Desktop - i5, 16GB DDR4, 2070 Super, 512GB SSD $1169

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For those who missed out on the previous ABS Desktop deal (i7, 2070 Super, 1TB SSD) from NewEgg for $1399, I think this is a really solid deal with a 2070 Super for $1,169 (deal expires tomorrow July 10)

https://www.newegg.com/abs-comput...6883102848 OOS
i5-9600k
2070 Super 8GB
16GB DDR4 (I couldn't find the speed)
512GB SSD
600W PSU

One of the reviews said adding storage is a pain however, looking at the case it seems largely empty of expansion bays. While I personally think the cpu could be the bottleneck, the i5 cpu is a pretty good one.


For Ryzen fans, there is this deal for $1149 [newegg.com] (use the EMCDNDR45 coupon) as an option by ABS as well
Ryzen 5 3600
16GB DDR4
512GB SSD
2070 Super
600W PSU


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Ohsighrus
07-09-2020 at 12:38 PM.
07-09-2020 at 12:38 PM.
It's cheaper because it's a 6 core i5 which is arguably not future proof. On newer AAA releases, the i5 will not be anywhere near as effective as the higher end processors. 6 threads just aren't enough for more modern games. Gonna stick to older games like WoW or LoL? Then you'll be fine. At this price, I'd pass.
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TechGamer
07-09-2020 at 12:48 PM.
07-09-2020 at 12:48 PM.
Terrible price for an older generation i5
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BloodGain
07-09-2020 at 12:57 PM.
07-09-2020 at 12:57 PM.
Not a great deal. You could probably do better DIY without trying too hard. Those CPUs are going to bottleneck a 2070 Super. With these CPUs, you may as well save the money and step down to the 2060 (maybe Super).
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leewilson08
07-09-2020 at 01:02 PM.
07-09-2020 at 01:02 PM.
The ryzen deal looks decent, thoughts?
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sirdan357
07-09-2020 at 01:28 PM.
07-09-2020 at 01:28 PM.
Quote from Ohsighrus :
It's cheaper because it's a 6 core i5 which is arguably not future proof. On newer AAA releases, the i5 will not be anywhere near as effective as the higher end processors. 6 threads just aren't enough for more modern games. Gonna stick to older games like WoW or LoL? Then you'll be fine. At this price, I'd pass.
I agree that it isn't the most future proof, but there isn't any game on the market right now that my i5 has a ton of trouble with.
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Taonn
07-09-2020 at 01:35 PM.
07-09-2020 at 01:35 PM.
You can also try to apply a $50 coupon on Ryzen rig - EMCDNDR45 (worked for me).
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07-09-2020 at 01:47 PM.
07-09-2020 at 01:47 PM.
Quote from Ohsighrus :
It's cheaper because it's a 6 core i5 which is arguably not future proof. On newer AAA releases, the i5 will not be anywhere near as effective as the higher end processors. 6 threads just aren't enough for more modern games. Gonna stick to older games like WoW or LoL? Then you'll be fine. At this price, I'd pass.
What planet are you from?
6 cores is more than enough in 2020. I doubt game will be using 8 cores anytime soon. There is literally no performance hit 6 vs. 8 core. You are talking <5 FPS difference IF that.
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07-09-2020 at 02:37 PM.
07-09-2020 at 02:37 PM.
Quote from leewilson08 :
The ryzen deal looks decent, thoughts?
There's no comparison. Ryzen all the way.
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muchwow
07-09-2020 at 02:47 PM.
07-09-2020 at 02:47 PM.
This i5 is actually a terrific pairing with the 2070 super. This overclockable CPU is one of the best bang for buck CPU in its generation when it comes to gaming (so is the 3600), paired with one of the best bang for buck gaming GPU in its tier (upper tier) around the same time. I know the best bang for buck in general is the 5700xt (fanboys need not crucify)

In terms of pure gaming, clock speed is more important than number of cores as Intel has repeatedly shown over time. Consider overclocking, and that becomes more apparent. However, the Ryzen is better for multithreaded applications and possibly better if you're also streaming.

In their non-OC form, the performance is actually not too far off. They are both fine for pairing with the 2070 super.

I also have to add that the new 3300x is a 4 core / 8 thread processor that can actually hang with the 3600 in gaming. Unfortunately that chip is sold out all the time.

Edit: I changed my stance on Intel vs Ryzen after some more research. While in general, Intel CPUs perform better in games while Ryzen CPUs perform better in multicore/multithreaded applications, specifically for these mid-tier chips, for gaming, the difference won't really be noticeable (only on paper).

If you want to overclock and get the most gaming performance, the i5 is a good choice. If you plan on streaming and/or running other computational programs, the Ryzen is a good choice.
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RyanB3492
07-09-2020 at 04:39 PM.
07-09-2020 at 04:39 PM.
I don't see a HDD cage, where are they hiding?
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stockshowgypsy
07-09-2020 at 04:57 PM.
07-09-2020 at 04:57 PM.
Quote from RyanB3492 :
I don't see a HDD cage, where are they hiding?
Here is link to case: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853078?Description=DEEPCOOL%20MATREXX%2050&cm_re=DEEPCOOL_MATREXX_... [newegg.com]

If they used this case stock the newegg pictures show it in front of the psu under the shroud.
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HillaryRClinton
07-09-2020 at 06:47 PM.
07-09-2020 at 06:47 PM.
Quote from muchwow :
This i5 is actually a terrific pairing with the 2070 super. This overclockable CPU is one of the best bang for buck CPU in its generation when it comes to gaming (so is the 3600), paired with one of the best bang for buck gaming GPU in its tier (upper tier) around the same time. I know the best bang for buck in general is the 5700xt (fanboys need not crucify)

In terms of pure gaming, clock speed is more important than number of cores as Intel has repeatedly shown over time. Consider overclocking, and that becomes more apparent. However, the Ryzen is better for multithreaded applications and possibly better if you're also streaming.

In their non-OC form, the performance is actually not too far off. They are both fine for pairing with the 2070 super.

I also have to add that the new 3300x is a 4 core / 8 thread processor that can actually hang with the 3600 in gaming. Unfortunately that chip is sold out all the time.

Edit: I changed my stance on Intel vs Ryzen after some more research. While in general, Intel CPUs perform better in games while Ryzen CPUs perform better in multicore/multithreaded applications, specifically for these mid-tier chips, for gaming, the difference won't really be noticeable (only on paper).

If you want to overclock and get the most gaming performance, the i5 is a good choice. If you plan on streaming and/or running other computational programs, the Ryzen is a good choice.

For current gaming you are correct, but games moving forward soon are gonna be built with 8 cores in mind, buying a 6 core with honestly not enough threads now is a mistake, at the least get the 3600 listed here, and yeah for multitasking you want as many as possible(threads and cores), if you can swing it bestbuy has a couple prebuilts with 3700x and 2070 super for around 1400usd, that's a goooood pairing.
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muchwow
07-09-2020 at 07:06 PM.
07-09-2020 at 07:06 PM.
Quote from HillaryRClinton :
For current gaming you are correct, but games moving forward soon are gonna be built with 8 cores in mind, buying a 6 core with honestly not enough threads now is a mistake, at the least get the 3600 listed here, and yeah for multitasking you want as many as possible(threads and cores), if you can swing it bestbuy has a couple prebuilts with 3700x and 2070 super for around 1400usd, that's a goooood pairing.
fair point, and the more cores/threads that future games use, the better.

but see my point about how the ryzen 3 3300x performs very, very similarly to 3600 in gaming. lacking a couple cores or threads will not be detrimental. quad cores have been out for a loooooong time, and it's still a solid performer. ryzen generally has more cores/threads now, but that won't suddenly make them the best gaming performers in the future when the developers decide to utilize more of them. there's more to it than that, but i feel as though many amd fans are banking on that.

don't get me wrong, i love what amd is doing with their ryzen chips and have high hopes for them. but we need to focus objectively on how these chips perform now to gauge how they compare. we can't compare how a current i5 compares to how a current ryzen 5 will theoretically perform in the future. if history has taught anything, regardless of what the spec sheet says, whatever was better at that time continued to be better years down the road. rarely has a chip that was inferior at one point all of a sudden became superior.

when the mainstream games utilize more cores and we see a significant, meaningful benefit from it, intel and ryzen will both play accordingly. it won't happen overnight where all of a sudden 6 cores and threads will be insufficient. in fact, by the time it's not enough, upgrades would have been long overdue (for both current intel and ryzen chips).
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