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Expires 10/31 for 100,000 Times Viewed # 1 Recommended GIGABIT ROUTER; $116 at Target TP-Link Archer AX3000 Dual Band WiFi 6 MU-MIMO Router

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Target price of $129 less the 10% coupon is $116. Coupon Expires 10/31

#1 Rated by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

HOW TO GET IT FOR $116 AT TARGET (2 WAYS)
New price is $129 and then apply the 10% off one electronic item (Target circle coupon). Total came to $116 and change. If you are a target Redcard member get additional 5% Redcard discount[/QUOTE]

10% coupon can be found here (Expires October 31):
https://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=14448551&sdop=1&sdpid=141342461&sdfid=30&lno=1&trd=https%20www%20target%20com%20offers%20targ&pv=&au=&sdtrk=SiteSearchV2Algo1&u2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Foffers%2Ftarget-circle[/QUOTE]

At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

WALMART
$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.
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Target price of $129 less the 10% coupon is $116. Coupon Expires 10/31

#1 Rated by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

HOW TO GET IT FOR $116 AT TARGET (2 WAYS)
New price is $129 and then apply the 10% off one electronic item (Target circle coupon). Total came to $116 and change. If you are a target Redcard member get additional 5% Redcard discount[/QUOTE]

10% coupon can be found here (Expires October 31):
https://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=14448551&sdop=1&sdpid=141342461&sdfid=30&lno=1&trd=https%20www%20target%20com%20offers%20targ&pv=&au=&sdtrk=SiteSearchV2Algo1&u2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Foffers%2Ftarget-circle[/QUOTE]

At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

WALMART
$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.

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Quote from haoniukun :
I just checked its emulator. It only has ap mode which requires a wired connection to the router. No repeater mode.
Thank you, I guess I can't use it for my purposes. Funny how all my old routers had this capability. I just returned a Netgear R6330 because the manual said it has this functionality, but after I got it, this feature was not in the router GUI.
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Quote from SC4EV :
Looking to cut the cord and pay Spectrum at least as possible... Would this router work well as a replacement for their "lease" models? Never sure which are really "approved" versus any modem/router would work.
This is a router, what you leased is a cable modem, and they give it for free when I signed up w/ spectrum earlier this year
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Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
No problem, I appreciate it. Yep both solid routers and if it does not break the bank worth the upgrade for long term.
My pleasure. I also just changed the subject/focus of the original post to the $129 AX 50.
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AX50 Out of stock at Amazon even at a higher price.
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AX50 Out of stock at Amazon even at a higher price.
Walmart still has it for $130
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Walmart still has it for $130
Yes, I know. That is stated in the subject line of the thread.
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Quote from wellcum :
This is a router, what you leased is a cable modem, and they give it for free when I signed up w/ spectrum earlier this year

Thanks - I'll check this out b/c they are currently charging us $10 a month for a modem/wifi lease.

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Looking to cut the cord and pay Spectrum at least as possible... Would this router work well as a replacement for their "lease" models? Never sure which are really "approved" versus any modem/router would work.
Here's what you should consider.

Is there a charge for your router through Spectrum? Unusually Spectrum charges $5 per month for a router/wifi. If you have a chnage, then yes, it makes sense to get your own wifi/router.

Note that devices are need for the VOICE (phone line modem MTA ), internet (modem), and wifi (router). Sometimes these devices are combined. For instance, I have voice modem (MTA) and intem modem combined in one device Spectrum gave me (no charge). Instead of paying them $5 per month for their crappy router, I got the router in this thread.
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Quote from zpeedster_m :
B & H reburb $120 or new $150

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...i-ps&pim=Y
Get the new for $129 at Walmart with free 1 day shipping.
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Thanks - I'll check this out b/c they are currently charging us $10 a month for a modem/wifi lease.
They are ripping you off. First, there should NOT be a charge just for a modem. Most likely they gave you a combined modem/router device but even then, the charge should be $5 not $10 to cover the router/wifi functionality.
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isnt NY times the number 1 fake news agency???
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Yes, I know. That is stated in the subject line of the thread.
Good for you. I am letting others know who may be further down in the thread.
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What is the best gigabit router under $100 these days? I already have dedicated AP and just looking for something I can do gigabit, easy vlan, and be able to monitor what devices are taking most bandwidth.

Thanks in advance!

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Quote from JoyTan :
AX50 Out of stock at Amazon even at a higher price.
I read the "Dongknowstech" review mentioned above stating the AX 50 (AX 3000) outperforms the AX 3000 variant from Walmart. In checking the differences, the only things I see are that the AX 50 has additional security/access management software, and it has a USB 3 port versus the AX 3000's USB 2 port. I researched the TP-Link website, and the data sheets for each are essentially identical with the exception of the above, and some international certification for the AX 50, which apparently is an international version. All other specifications appear to be identical. Investigating further, I see the firmwares available for the two units are different in name and size. Dong Published his review on May 4, 2020. Since that time, TP-Link has released a new firmware for the AX 3000 updated May 19, 2020, with the following stated features:

New Features/Enhancement:
1. Improved the performance and stability of wireless;
2. Optimized the stability when working with Tether APP.
Bug Fixed:
1. Fixed some compatibility issues with some AX smartphones;
2. Fixed some compatibility issues with Surface pro.

For comparison purposes, the AX 50 received a firmware update on April 3, 2020, with the following stated features:

New Features/Enhancement:
1. Improved the performance and stability of wireless;
2. Optimized the stability when working with Tether APP.
Bug Fixed:
1. Fixed some compatibility issues with some AX smartphones;
2. Fixed some compatibility issues with Surface pro.

Conclusion:

The AX 50 and AX 3000 compared by Dong may have had different firmware, thus explaining the difference in performance. Since the review, it appears the AX 3000 (Walmart variant) received a firmware upgrade the AX 50 may have received before the comparison testing. I'm rationalizing, because I just purchased the Walmart variant to replace a dying router. Here's hoping.

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