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Target price of $129 less the 10% coupon is $116. Coupon Expires 10/31

#1 Rated by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

HOW TO GET IT FOR $116 AT TARGET (2 WAYS)
New price is $129 and then apply the 10% off one electronic item (Target circle coupon). Total came to $116 and change. If you are a target Redcard member get additional 5% Redcard discount[/QUOTE]

10% coupon can be found here (Expires October 31):
https://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=14448551&sdop=1&sdpid=141342461&sdfid=30&lno=1&trd=https%20www%20target%20com%20offers%20targ&pv=&au=&sdtrk=SiteSearchV2Algo1&u2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Foffers%2Ftarget-circle[/QUOTE]

At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

WALMART
$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.
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Target price of $129 less the 10% coupon is $116. Coupon Expires 10/31

#1 Rated by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

HOW TO GET IT FOR $116 AT TARGET (2 WAYS)
New price is $129 and then apply the 10% off one electronic item (Target circle coupon). Total came to $116 and change. If you are a target Redcard member get additional 5% Redcard discount[/QUOTE]

10% coupon can be found here (Expires October 31):
https://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=14448551&sdop=1&sdpid=141342461&sdfid=30&lno=1&trd=https%20www%20target%20com%20offers%20targ&pv=&au=&sdtrk=SiteSearchV2Algo1&u2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Foffers%2Ftarget-circle[/QUOTE]

At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

WALMART
$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.

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Quote from AlbertY6916 :
https://www.tp-link.com/us/compar...10%2C41125
Is two different products/SKUs. Thus, they are different in some way. For 95% of users, it will be like the same. But there are a slightly different that some people will care.
Because of the less software/features, they priced it cheaper.

But the main question is that, is it really a deal if the MSRP is at 129? If this is the AX50, where the MSRP is 149, and is price at 129, then yes is a deal. But if is a strip down version and the regular price is 129, then it is not a deal since is every day price.
The difference between the $149 and the $129 price is the premium paid by suckers who fall for marketing hype. Basically make some largely cosmetic changes to the product, glorify it with marketing, and suckers will come - never fails. Marketing 101.
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In-depth review from Dongknows, the Walmart version of AX50 seems to be lower performance.

https://dongknows.com/tp-link-arc...50-review/
Does "Dong" really "know"? He tested 2 identical systems with different firmware. Not an apples-to-apples comparison by "Dongknows".
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Quote from champignonroi :
Would the ARRIS SURFboard SBG7600AC2 and the AX30 be overkill for my future 700sqft condo? I will be getting 400Mbps or maybe 940 Mbps cable internet from Spectrum.

I mostly stream Netflix on my smart TV and playing mobile games or watching youtube on my phone. I also will have the Nest Thermostat, about 10 smartbulbs, and 3 Alexia devices.
Where did the AX 30 come from? We are discussing the Archer AX20 and AX50 in this thread.
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Only thing I've heard that's a negative is it overheats. That's why I'm leaning towards ax1800
maybe you will be comforted by the fact that most won't see a performance difference between the AX1800 and AX3000. Of course, if you have a larger house or tons of equipment connected to it, then maybe it would make a difference.
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Quote from nightanole :
the lowest of the low end AX models have the intel chipset, all the more expensive models use the broadcom chipset.

All these sub $200 AX routers from every manufacture use the same intel 654 chipset
Good to know that going from an Intel to a Broadcom chipset in a router will cost about $100 more.
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Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
This has been covered, TP-Link makes no distinction between them even on their website. The hardware is identical besides a USB 3.0 vs 2.0 port if I recall from earlier posts. The software only difference seems to be one comes with homecare, the other you can buy through the tether app.
When I downloaded the TP-LINK Tether app, it wouldn't download automatically like other apps. My phone forced me to enter my phone ID password (which is different from phone screen unlock password).

Questions:

1) Why do you think TP-Link required a phone ID for the app download. Does it apply I will be charged for something?

2) What's the use of establishing a TP-Link account when you can control the router locally on your PC, presumably, without having to connect TP LINK Cloud? What purpose does TP Link Cloud serve anyway?

Thanks.
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Quote from robrob777 :
Still rocking the N900.. Around 6 or 7 years...I'm hesitant to upgrade because it works well.
3 work laptops (tons of data passing.. Tons), 2 tablets and 1 laptop streaming 1080p. Tv also streaming. Cameras cellphones watches...
Not a single issue... I think the router has gone like a year without being turned off..
I only wish it had faster usb write speed. But i think i just solved that via workgroup in network.
Awesome range too. Even if it doesn't have external antennas (2200ft house)
The issue is not whether "it works" but rather how fast is the wifi connection to the devices. I went from N to AC and it was like nice and day. You should start by checking the speed on each device. On your phone go to fats.com to run a test....it takes 10 seconds and spits out the speed. Do that at different places in your apartment and different devices. Report back after the first step.

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Quote from Jsz0301 :
Thats wrong. Most of the super low end stuff is Broadcom.

AX20 is a BCM6755 SoC
AX1500 is a BCM6570 SoC + stand alone BCM N Chip.

The intel stuff is only really used for AX3000 class routers. AX3000 is a mix of Broadcom (ASUS AX3000/AX58U) and intel (TPlink/Netgear)
Quote from another thread on routers
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If you do not have WiFi 6 devices, the speed of your commonly used device can only reach up to 867Mbps
Could you provide examples of devices which currently have wifi 6? Does, for instance, iphone 11 have it? What about the Roku? TIVo? Laser Printers? TVs? PCs and Laptops?
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Could you provide examples of devices which currently have wifi 6? Does, for instance, iphone 11 have it? What about the Roku? TIVo? Laser Printers? TVs? PCs and Laptops?
Iphone SE/11/12 and other high end phones, AX200/201 network cards for desktops and laptops, Future PS5(80mhz). That's it so far. Smilie


AX is 2 years old at this point from a router perspective. Just lack of market push and AC parts being cheaper for manufacturers to implement. (To be fair, IoT devices don't really need the speed in most situations, but it would be nice if 2.4G AX was implemented)

Every recently released IoT Device is ironically AC and N products.
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Why is this post about the AX50 but OP links to the AX3000? I know the internals are the same but the USB 3.0 is very important especially if your going to use it.
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Why is this post about the AX50 but OP links to the AX3000? I know the internals are the same but the USB 3.0 is very important especially if your going to use it.
From what dong measured in his review, file transfer speeds are identical between the two models. Don't think it matters in this case.
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Quote from JoyTan :
When I downloaded the TP-LINK Tether app, it wouldn't download automatically like other apps. My phone forced me to enter my phone ID password (which is different from phone screen unlock password).

Questions:

1) Why do you think TP-Link required a phone ID for the app download. Does it apply I will be charged for something?

2) What's the use of establishing a TP-Link account when you can control the router locally on your PC, presumably, without having to connect TP LINK Cloud? What purpose does TP Link Cloud serve anyway?

Thanks.
Sounds like you have an apple device. If I recall correctly the tether app lets you make in app purchases to purchase the Home Care package, which is the anti virus/parental controls. I dont use apple but I think any app that can make a purchase requires a phone ID? I am not positive about that. So no your not being charged for anything, but can if you decide to buy the home care through the app.

The app makes connecting and setting up the router way easier, it allows you manage the router even when your not home.
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Quote from Jsz0301 :
Iphone SE/11/12 and other high end phones, AX200/201 network cards for desktops and laptops, Future PS5(80mhz). That's it so far. Smilie


AX is 2 years old at this point from a router perspective. Just lack of market push and AC parts being cheaper for manufacturers to implement. (To be fair, IoT devices don't really need the speed in most situations, but it would be nice if 2.4G AX was implemented)

Every recently released IoT Device is ironically AC and N products.
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Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
Sounds like you have an apple device. If I recall correctly the tether app lets you make in app purchases to purchase the Home Care package, which is the anti virus/parental controls. I dont use apple but I think any app that can make a purchase requires a phone ID? I am not positive about that. So no your not being charged for anything, but can if you decide to buy the home care through the app.

The app makes connecting and setting up the router way easier, it allows you manage the router even when your not home.
Yes, I did see the app has "in app purchases". But I would think that you would need the phone ID to make the in app purchase not for just downloading an app with the ability to purchase in app. What's the logic of requiring the phone ID upfront as opposed to when the purchase is actually made? And when a purchase is made within the app, do you again have to enter the phone ID?

Again, I am trying to understand the logic here.

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