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Specs:
- Resolution: 3840x2160
- Refresh Rate: 120Hz (Native) OLED Motion Pro
- Processor: α9 Gen 3 AI Processor 4K
- HDR: Cinema HDR (Dolby Vision, HDR10, HLG), Dolby Vision IQ, HDR Dynamic Tone Mapping Pro
- G-Sync Compatible
- Smart Platform: webOS
- Alexa Built-in, Google Assistant Built-in
- Ports:
- 4x HDMI
- 3x USB 2.0
- 1x RF/Cable
- 1x Composite
- 1x Ethernet
- 1x RS-232C
- 1x Digital Audio Output
- 1x Headphone Out
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I think it is a no brainer to go with costco.
What would you suggest in the meantime to support next gen consoles or just get something cheap until they can get this fixed next year hopefully?
It has the blurred text issue at 120hz but that's apparently ymmv and mostly with PC, with the newer gpus. The news is that they are going to work on a fix for it. With PS5 coming out and supporting 4K 120Hz, I believe they will do something
Personally, going to wait out the next 6 months and get the 2021 models.
I think it is a no brainer to go with costco.
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Especially with next gen ps5 just 2 days away.
OLED TVs below 120 Hz have problems with variable refresh rate (VRR), says LG
https://www.techgenyz.com/2020/11...te-vrr-lg/ [techgenyz.com]
Nearly 10k LG OLED tvs from 2019 and 2020 with failing power boards from overheating is pretty significant. Especially for 2020 tvs.
Also possible flickering or instability in dark areas with next gen consoles is important to any one buying the next gen gaming consoles.
Also the article is a little misleading....
First they state that VRR issues will occur in tvs lower than 120hz but later state
"if the VRR is used while the refresh rate is not more than 120 Hz, it will make the OLED TV's gamma curve to be in conflict with the refresh rate. To be more specific, a 120Hz frame rate is not longer than a 40Hz frame rate which indicates that a lower frame rate will probably make the pixels overcharge making the dark gray image to flicker."
So I'm guessing that the second part stating the tvs need to be more than 120hz for proper use of VRR is more accurate.
I cant see this being fixed with a firmware update. This is a technology barrier. The only way they could fix this with firmware is to install limitations.
This statement about VRR issues by LG is stupid.
"However, LG mentioned the OLED panel rather than the OLED TV itself responsible for the problem"
The panel is 90% of the tv so who is LG trying to fool?
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Nearly 10k LG OLED tvs from 2019 and 2020 with failing power boards from overheating is pretty significant. Especially for 2020 tvs.
Also possible flickering or instability in dark areas with next gen consoles is important to any one buying the next gen gaming consoles.
Also the article is a little misleading....
First they state that VRR issues will occur in tvs lower than 120hz but later state
"if the VRR is used while the refresh rate is not more than 120 Hz, it will make the OLED TV's gamma curve to be in conflict with the refresh rate. To be more specific, a 120Hz frame rate is not longer than a 40Hz frame rate which indicates that a lower frame rate will probably make the pixels overcharge making the dark gray image to flicker."
So I'm guessing that the second part stating the tvs need to be more than 120hz for proper use of VRR is more accurate.
I cant see this being fixed with a firmware update. This is a technology barrier. The only way they could fix this with firmware is to install limitations.
This statement about VRR issues by LG is stupid.
"However, LG mentioned the OLED panel rather than the OLED TV itself responsible for the problem"
The panel is 90% of the tv so who is LG trying to fool?
https://youtu.be/Jfl3UdWZIUQ
I'm just confused on what I should do now since I did buy this but haven't opened it yet and preorded the PS5
Debating if I should just go with a cheaper tv like a TCL and wait and hope they fix this with their newer models in 2021
Coverage doesn't apply under these circumstances:
■ You fail to care for or service the item appropriately as required by the manufacturer.
■ The item has a product defect, recall, or experiences normal wear and tear where no failure has occurred.
■ The item is damaged because of an act of God, such as a flood, hurricane, lightning, wind or earthquake.
"or experiences normal wear and tear where no failure has occurred."
Unless they specifically state they cover burnin I would say they don't. Insurance companies have a way of wording things to get out of paying for anything that they don't specifically state they cover.
https://youtu.be/Jfl3UdWZIUQ
I'm just confused on what I should do now since I did buy this but haven't opened it yet and preorded the PS5
Debating if I should just go with a cheaper tv like a TCL and wait and hope they fix this with their newer models in 2021
If the article is correct it is most likely applies to any tv with VRR but I guess it could just be OLED tvs.
If there are flickering issues with your console and you could probably return the tv as defective and not have to pay return shipping costs. Even if the tv isnt technically defective manufacturers screwed up with VRR if it can cause power boards to overheat and if its likely to call flickering.
If widespread power boards fail with people using next gen consoles I can see a huge mass lawsuit coming.
As far as 2021 tvs fixing the issue its a definite no. This article just came out for one.
2021 tvs are ready to ship to dealers. Possibly in 2022 tvs at the earliest. I have a lot of guesses to what could happen but no sense dwelling.
Myself personally I had enough negatives already with my CX. The VRR issues are one thing but possible overheating causing failing power boards really is making me thing I should just go back to Samsung and get away from OLED until the issues are fixed.
Ive been looking at the Sony LED`s but at least with Samsung I wouldn't have overheating though. Still it would suck to give up the picture quality of OLED
"or experiences normal wear and tear where no failure has occurred."
Unless they specifically state they cover burnin I would say they don't. Insurance companies have a way of wording things to get out of paying for anything that they don't specifically state they cover.
If the article is correct it is most likely applies to any tv with VRR but I guess it could just be OLED tvs.
If there are flickering issues with your console and you could probably return the tv as defective and not have to pay return shipping costs. Even if the tv isnt technically defective manufacturers screwed up with VRR if it can cause power boards to overheat and if its likely to call flickering.
If widespread power boards fail with people using next gen consoles I can see a huge mass lawsuit coming.
As far as 2021 tvs fixing the issue its a definite no. This article just came out for one.
2021 tvs are ready to ship to dealers. Possibly in 2022 tvs at the earliest. I have a lot of guesses to what could happen but no sense dwelling.
Myself personally I had enough negatives already with my CX. The VRR issues are one thing but possible overheating causing failing power boards really is making me thing I should just go back to Samsung and get away from OLED until the issues are fixed.
Ive been looking at the Sony LED`s but at least with Samsung I wouldn't have overheating though. Still it would suck to give up the picture quality of OLED
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Check page 2 what I wrote about the negatives that applied to me. Whether they apply to others that's based on what the functions each individual uses.
I was considering the Q80T prior to finding out the VRR issues and possibility of it causing power boards to overheat and fail. I'm leaning more to Samsung now. Going to wait till BF for lower prices and more news before making a final decision.
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