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Rheem Performance Platinum 50 Gal. 10-Year Hybrid High Efficiency Smart Tank Electric Water Heater - $799 + shipping

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I just purchased this water heater, normally $1299, for $799 + tax + $75 shipping.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

Steps to get deal:
1) Go to above link
2) Change store to zip code 15010(Edit: use Zip 97322 for $699 instead of $799)
3) Select Ship to Home (unless you happen to live close to this store), add to cart.
4) Check out.

Additional notes:
1) Federal tax credit of $300. State tax credits vary, in my home state we get an additional $400 (bringing this heater down to $99 + $75 shipping + tax).
2) For many/most, the $75 shipping is worth it even if you can get this price locally as these heaters are quite heavy and supposedly must be transported vertically.
3) Do your homework on these hybrid heaters before purchasing. You need 220V to operate. Installation expense is generally much higher with hybrid electric vs standard electric resistance heaters and gas heaters. Hot water recovery is very slow (but you can switch to standard electric mode for rapid recovery when you know your usage will be high, e.g. having company over). They can apparently be loud, so if this will be located close to a bedroom, important to think about. There are important climate and installation location factors to consider--just google.
4) The newest generation of this series from Rheem, called "Proterra" can be had for $1269, a slight discount compared to full price (15% for my location). After carefully examining specs, photos, etc - it seems that the only difference with the Proterra series is built-in leak detection with auto-shutoff. FYI if that feature is important to you, you can add it for $219:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem...513?NCNI-5
5) This is for 50 gallon. Looks like if you need 65 gal or 80 gal, the Proterra is actually on sale (whereas the Performance Platinum is full price), making the Proterra cheaper.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081
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I just purchased this water heater, normally $1299, for $799 + tax + $75 shipping.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

Steps to get deal:
1) Go to above link
2) Change store to zip code 15010(Edit: use Zip 97322 for $699 instead of $799)
3) Select Ship to Home (unless you happen to live close to this store), add to cart.
4) Check out.

Additional notes:
1) Federal tax credit of $300. State tax credits vary, in my home state we get an additional $400 (bringing this heater down to $99 + $75 shipping + tax).
2) For many/most, the $75 shipping is worth it even if you can get this price locally as these heaters are quite heavy and supposedly must be transported vertically.
3) Do your homework on these hybrid heaters before purchasing. You need 220V to operate. Installation expense is generally much higher with hybrid electric vs standard electric resistance heaters and gas heaters. Hot water recovery is very slow (but you can switch to standard electric mode for rapid recovery when you know your usage will be high, e.g. having company over). They can apparently be loud, so if this will be located close to a bedroom, important to think about. There are important climate and installation location factors to consider--just google.
4) The newest generation of this series from Rheem, called "Proterra" can be had for $1269, a slight discount compared to full price (15% for my location). After carefully examining specs, photos, etc - it seems that the only difference with the Proterra series is built-in leak detection with auto-shutoff. FYI if that feature is important to you, you can add it for $219:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem...513?NCNI-5
5) This is for 50 gallon. Looks like if you need 65 gal or 80 gal, the Proterra is actually on sale (whereas the Performance Platinum is full price), making the Proterra cheaper.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem.../312742081

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Nov 18, 2020 12:43 AM
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BrianN4484Nov 18, 2020 12:43 AM
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Ugh i bought this a month ago.
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Nov 18, 2020 01:22 AM
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cybergoldNov 18, 2020 01:22 AM
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Out of stock for ship to home
Nov 18, 2020 02:01 AM
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steve4134Nov 18, 2020 02:01 AM
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I think people need to understand this needs a drain unlike a conventional water heater.

steve
Nov 18, 2020 02:14 AM
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turningpoint84Nov 18, 2020 02:14 AM
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Quote from yoga4life :
I currently have a 50 gal electric water heater. Will it be compatible and easy to instal (by a contractor of course). Dont want to order it, get it here and realize it wont work for our setup
See what size breaker you have, should be 30 amps or 40amps and ot should be plug and play. plumb should be able to install for $300
Nov 18, 2020 03:36 AM
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tintinoNov 18, 2020 03:36 AM
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I have had this for 8 months/ In the cost effective mode (Heat Pump Only) it heats about 1/3 of the tank (at the top). When you shower you might run out of hot water. It is NOT more economical than a GAS heater despite the claim on the label. They calculate the Yearly cost so low due to the fact it heats up 1/3 of the tank (it's really a marketing scam)



This being said, if you take showers no longer than 7-10 minutes, you may save money compared to a gas heater.


I like the WiFi option - in the app it shows the daily consumption and you can change modes /set Vacation mode from anywhere.
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Nov 18, 2020 03:47 AM
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jtp098Nov 18, 2020 03:47 AM
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Quote from tintino :
I have had this for 8 months/ In the cost effective mode (Heat Pump Only) it heats about 1/3 of the tank (at the top). When you shower you might run out of hot water. It is NOT more economical than a GAS heater despite the claim on the label. They calculate the Yearly cost so low due to the fact it heats up 1/3 of the tank (it's really a marketing scam)



This being said, if you take showers no longer than 7-10 minutes, you may save money compared to a gas heater.


I like the WiFi option - in the app it shows the daily consumption and you can change modes /set Vacation mode from anywhere.
Just curious how long and how many showers back to back? I know you mentioned 7-10 min is fine. I have showered followed by my wife, maybe 10 min each shower and never run out of hot water. This was in energy saver mode though, I'll have to look into what get's heated in my case.
Nov 18, 2020 04:35 AM
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JeffJ1338Nov 18, 2020 04:35 AM
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This is concerning as I was also purchasing this to finally have a way to fill up our moderately sized soaking tub. Right now my tank is so old, it doesn't even stay hot long enough to fill it up. I was hoping with the 50 gallons, I would be good, but you make it sound like if I run eco mode, which I would expect to run, that I wouldn't be able to fill a bathtub?

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Nov 18, 2020 04:37 AM
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makavel1Nov 18, 2020 04:37 AM
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Any estimate on how much I should expect to pay an Electrician and Plummer to get this installed? I currently have a 50 gallon gas water heater and I am thinking of getting 80 gallon (1499). Just wanting to get a ball park idea— never replaced a water heater before
Nov 18, 2020 04:38 AM
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HonestPolice609Nov 18, 2020 04:38 AM
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Quote from tintino :
I have had this for 8 months/ In the cost effective mode (Heat Pump Only) it heats about 1/3 of the tank (at the top). When you shower you might run out of hot water. It is NOT more economical than a GAS heater despite the claim on the label. They calculate the Yearly cost so low due to the fact it heats up 1/3 of the tank (it's really a marketing scam)



This being said, if you take showers no longer than 7-10 minutes, you may save money compared to a gas heater.


I like the WiFi option - in the app it shows the daily consumption and you can change modes /set Vacation mode from anywhere.
I have had a 50 gallon Rheem hybrid for about a year and a half and have not had a problem running out of hot water on the heat pump setting (most economical) unless we have more than 5 or 6 people taking showers. I wonder at what temperature do you have your unit set. From the factory, they are set at 120° F, but I set mine @ 135°. Frankly, unless you have very young children (or very old adults), I think 120° is too low and invites bacteria growth. The higher temperature will stretch your hot water. Obviously, the WIFI app will also give you the option of easily changing the HPWH mode to increase your recovery rate if you anticipate increased hot water consumption.
Regarding the economics of HPWHs, everyone's situation is different since electric rates can vary drastically depending on region or even the utility within a region. I have two homes only 35 miles apart, but one house pays a electric rate double the other. When you look at the energy cost on any appliance, you need to read the cost per kw or therm before you can compare electric vs gas appliances.
I have both gas (tank) and HPWH and they both have their places. This is not a one size (or fuel) fits all type of decision.
Nov 18, 2020 04:45 AM
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JeffJ1338Nov 18, 2020 04:45 AM
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Quote from HonestPolice609 :
I have had a 50 gallon Rheem hybrid for about a year and a half and have not had a problem running out of hot water on the heat pump setting (most economical) unless we have more than 5 or 6 people taking showers. I wonder at what temperature do you have your unit set. From the factory, they are set at 120° F, but I set mine @ 135°. Frankly, unless you have very young children (or very old adults), I think 120° is too low and invites bacteria growth. The higher temperature will stretch your hot water. Obviously, the WIFI app will also give you the option of easily changing the HPWH mode to increase your recovery rate if you anticipate increased hot water consumption.
Regarding the economics of HPWHs, everyone's situation is different since electric rates can vary drastically depending on region or even the utility within a region. I have two homes only 35 miles apart, but one house pays a electric rate double the other. When you look at the energy cost on any appliance, you need to read the cost per kw or therm before you can compare electric vs gas appliances.
I have both gas (tank) and HPWH and they both have their places. This is not a one size (or fuel) fits all type of decision.
At 135 degrees, do you have an idea of how many KWH you use and how many baths/showers a day you take? My main complaint with my 20 something year old heater is that it can't even fill our bathtub which is about a medium size jetted tub. I have a vented gas furnace now and I was thinking of getting this because then I wouldn't have to vent it, and it's probably quieter than the fan on a vented heater.

I may cancel this if it's really that bad.
Nov 18, 2020 04:45 AM
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mehoff88Nov 18, 2020 04:45 AM
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$700 for tjos and then $2000 grand for a plumber and his "apprentice" to take 45 minutes to install it. "Professional" pricing has gotten out of hand in my area.
Nov 18, 2020 04:54 AM
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HonestPolice609Nov 18, 2020 04:54 AM
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Quote from semjase :
My experience with these units -- they can only use the heat pump to heat the water up to about 140f, after that, they use resistance heating. You would probably save a ton of energy reducing your temp to 140 or 142 max.
Interesting...have you ever tried to set set the temp to 150° in the HP mode..if so, did it not reach 150°? In this mode, the elements would not be used.
Last edited by HonestPolice609 November 17, 2020 at 10:13 PM.
Nov 18, 2020 05:01 AM
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eliezerlpNov 18, 2020 05:01 AM
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Quote from warezdog :
Southwest Florida got the same deal, haven't got a confirmation though order says still in process, I set up delivery for Friday so keeping my fingers crossed.
Did you get to pick a delivery date? It just gave me an Est Arrival of Nov 30 - Dec 4.
Nov 18, 2020 05:12 AM
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HonestPolice609Nov 18, 2020 05:12 AM
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Quote from JeffJ1338 :
At 135 degrees, do you have an idea of how many KWH you use and how many baths/showers a day you take? My main complaint with my 20 something year old heater is that it can't even fill our bathtub which is about a medium size jetted tub. I have a vented gas furnace now and I was thinking of getting this because then I wouldn't have to vent it, and it's probably quieter than the fan on a vented heater.

I may cancel this if it's really that bad.
I do not track, my kwh consumption on the HPWH. I do track my overall energy consumption for that home and I am very pleased with my overall usage since installing the Rheem hybrid. Since this is a vacation home, consumption (and showers) goes up and down depending on season and number of family and friends in the home. If we have more than six in the home, I change the mode to enable the heating elements.

The newer tanks are very well insulated and mfgs generally advise against using additional insulation (blankets) on them, so I wouldn't be too concerned about excess energy consumption when increasing your water temperature.
I've had power vented gas tanks before...not sure mine was any louder than the Rheem. Generally speaking, gas tanks have a faster recovery rated than electric, so if you are have a problem filling your tub (assuming no malfunction), maybe you need a bigger tank...whichever type you choose.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:29 AM
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uberswampyNov 18, 2020 05:29 AM
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Quote from yoga4life :
I currently have a 50 gal electric water heater. Will it be compatible and easy to instal (by a contractor of course). Dont want to order it, get it here and realize it wont work for our setup
I replaced standard electric water heater. In/out are on sides and lower. My previous had in/out on top. will require condensation drain or pump to a drain. I was quoted more than 2k to install so I did it myself. Took me under an hour for basic hookup. PEX is recommended, use SharkBite for connections, the braided flex pipe is also recommended (also had one side sharkbite) buy the sharkbite disconnect tool if you think you will make a mistake For a month or so, i sent condensation to a Homer Bucket and emptied every 5-7 days. I had no luck with wifi setup with android phone, no problem with apple, once setup android app works fine. It cools the room it's in and dehumidifies. I like mine and i recommend the product,

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