BenQ TK800M 3000 Lumens 4K UHD Home Theater Projector w/ HDR & HLG Expired

I think you should go for VAVA 4K short throw in that case, I bought that last week for 1949$ and it's really amazing.

I don't want to spark any flame wars, but I'll take a bite at your questions.

1) You're right that the darkened room is the initial critical factor for many projectors. The comparison vs lcd/led will depend on a few environmental factors, including light control, screen material, and both projection and viewing distance. Viewing position can also come into play as the reflective angles of the screen and projector need to be aligned correctly. If setup correctly, and viewed in a properly light controlled environment, IMHO you can produce the same level of detail from a projector or fixed panel display. But don't underestimate the impact on black levels of light control. Even with a darkened room and cheating via light absorbing borders (like black felt) surrounding the screen, small amounts of ambient light can really impact a projected image. On the other hand, you can't reproduce larger image sizes for anywhere near the cost of a projector, and the visceral impact of that large image (or a larger group viewing space) is a factor to consider as well. For what its worth, I love projectors, but when the price on ~106" panel with good quality and performance drops near $2k I'll buy that in a heartbeat. So far none exist, and thus I'm a projector guy.

2) This answer largely depends on your screen, your wall finish, and the projector (in that order). IMO that can only be answered by trial and error. Note that you can address it by adding DIY panels to the "risk areas" if needed.

Basis: I've used a series of projectors as my primary display for household viewing in an open-layout living room for the past 20 years. All front projection, all at ~106" diagonal, various screen materials and various types of projectors ranging from $500-$3200.

I have a ht3050 1080p, how much of an upgrade is this? Is it native 4k or pixel shifting?

I think you should go for VAVA 4K short throw in that case, I bought that last week for 1949$ and it's really amazing.

Its an upgrade no matter how you look at it, just in general image will look sharper and have more pop. Hard to quantify but definitely a noticeable difference. My Epson 3100 which has an amazing image and can rival most medium end to high end 1080p projectors, still is out shined by some budget $1000-$1500 4k projectors, but not enough yet for me to bite the bullet. I am waiting for a 4k with 3-D with extremely low input lag to make an appearance, currently I dont care about whether its pixel shifting or native, but I do care what chip they have doing the processing as that will make the difference in the pixel shifting quality.

You will not find a native 4k projector under $4/5000 currently, so if you see any projector for under $4k its always using a degree of pixel shifting.

If your into 3-D as mentioned earlier the 850 version is a step up but gives a significant pop to 3-D, outside of that nope you really wont find any projector that will give you a significant difference for an extra $500. The 850 normally is around $1500 but has been on sale for a few hundred less if you want to wait.



When it comes to quality there are projectors that are comparable to OLED, but they are extremely expensive, but yes they do exist. As for in a light controlled room you can get pretty close, and the size of the screen clearly overshadows and provides a more impressive image compared to a 70"/80" TV. My older 1080p projector 120" screen is more impressive than any of my friends 60"-70" 4K LED/OLED setups. I always get the wow comments when I play high end HD content, waiting patently for a very solid 4K projector that suits all my needs, probably sometime next year.

Light bleed is not very common anymore as the lens themselves are extremely elegant compared to the old large bulky lenses that older projectors used to use. So for the most part its a problem that really does not exist anymore, at max you will get a light border of only a few inches, if any with some projectors. You can literally have it right against a wall surrounded on all sides and it should not be a problem. Having a proper screen also helps make problems like that obsolete.

I think you should go for VAVA 4K short throw in that case, I bought that last week for 1949$ and it's really amazing.

That's what I am thinking but since I'm not even at half life on my current bulb, I'll hold out until the it reaches end of life and see where the 4k market is at. Thanks for the reply.

How about optoma uhd50x for 400 more?. I seen them for 1399

Does this offer a vertical shift?

How does this compare to viewsonic 727 ?

Where did you buy from? I see the price for VAVA 4K around $2800