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Today, a black lady asked me if I was racist. Very long... Okay, go crazy.

3,834 187 July 24, 2009 at 03:56 PM in Rant
tl;dr? gtfo then

So I have this training thing this week with a morning class and an afternoon class. Two other people are in the morning class that are also in the afternoon class (plus me) After the first class ended I waited for the (black) girl to come out and I asked her what she was going to do for the break which was three hours long. She said she didn't know but she did not have a car. I said that's okay, I do.

So we went to my car and ended up at Panera. On the way there she asked me where I lived and I told her, and I mentioned how I hated the city and she said yeah you'd probably do better in a less diverse place. (Side note: I don't like the city because there is no grass, its loud, smelly, and there are too many people) I also mentioned that I liked Indian food because there was a place in the plaza. She said she was surprised that I liked 'cultural food'. At that point I knew she thought I was racist.

Once in Panera we started studying for our exam thing and this happened.
Her: Can I asked you a question?
Me: Sure
Her: Are you racist?
Me: ....No?
Her: Of course if you were, you wouldn't say yes.
So I stare at her.. And say nothing.
Her: When you all talk about asians do you group them together or put them into separate categories?
Me: Well what do you mean 'you all'?
Her: You know, White people.
Me: Uhmmm.. Well that question would be like me asking you if all black people like peanut butter and jelly. You can't answer that because you haven't met all black people.
Her: I know, but white people (blablalba, I forget, something stupid.)
Me: Okay.. Well I'll answer the question for myself, because that's the only person I can answer it for.
I answered it.

We stopped talking about race finally and talked about other less awkward stuff.
Then she asked me to drive her home. I said sure because I didn't want her to think I WAS racist..

So then after class

On the ride home, she starts talking about Jews (I mentioned I was raised Jewish) and then she asked me why Jewish parents are so overbearing. I was so farking angry at this point so I counted to three and answered. I explained that you cannot say that all Jewish families have overbearing parents, and that mine are not, but they do want what is best for me. This went on for a bit and I was soooo angry. Eventually the conversation slowed down and then we were at her house.

As I pulled up she asked me if I could pick her up and drop her off Mon and Tues.

I said yes

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07-24-2009 at 04:24 PM.
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tl;dr? gtfo then

So I have this training thing this week with a morning class and an afternoon class. Two other people are in the morning class that are also in the afternoon class (plus me) After the first class ended I waited for the (black) girl to come out and I asked her what she was going to do for the break which was three hours long. She said she didn't know but she did not have a car. I said that's okay, I do.

So we went to my car and ended up at Panera. On the way there she asked me where I lived and I told her, and I mentioned how I hated the city and she said yeah you'd probably do better in a less diverse place. (Side note: I don't like the city because there is no grass, its loud, smelly, and there are too many people) I also mentioned that I liked Indian food because there was a place in the plaza. She said she was surprised that I liked 'cultural food'. At that point I knew she thought I was racist.

Once in Panera we started studying for our exam thing and this happened.
Her: Can I asked you a question?
Me: Sure
Her: Are you racist?
Me: ....No?
Her: Of course if you were, you wouldn't say yes.
So I stare at her.. And say nothing.
Her: When you all talk about asians do you group them together or put them into separate categories?
Me: Well what do you mean 'you all'?
Her: You know, White people.
Me: Uhmmm.. Well that question would be like me asking you if all black people like peanut butter and jelly. You can't answer that because you haven't met all black people.
Her: I know, but white people (blablalba, I forget, something stupid.)
Me: Okay.. Well I'll answer the question for myself, because that's the only person I can answer it for.
I answered it.

We stopped talking about race finally and talked about other less awkward stuff.
Then she asked me to drive her home. I said sure because I didn't want her to think I WAS racist..

So then after class

On the ride home, she starts talking about Jews (I mentioned I was raised Jewish) and then she asked me why Jewish parents are so overbearing. I was so farking angry at this point so I counted to three and answered. I explained that you cannot say that all Jewish families have overbearing parents, and that mine are not, but they do want what is best for me. This went on for a bit and I was soooo angry. Eventually the conversation slowed down and then we were at her house.

As I pulled up she asked me if I could pick her up and drop her off Mon and Tues.

I said yes

Sadwalk
Many people are ignorant about race issues, even black people. She may have gone through some terrible things and has a negative view of white people. There may be valid reasons to her distrust. However, there are black people that have been through that and have gotten to the point where they aren't so angry and really understand racism and racial identity. I'm guessing she is young, and maybe with time she will learn more. I think that open conversation is a good start, be honest even at the chance of sounding ignorant a long as both parties understand that they have more to learn and don't intentionally say hurtful things. I think everyone has room to grow, and we need to be more understanding of other perspectives and experiences.

I would be pissed too, but try to step back and see where she might be coming from.
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07-24-2009 at 04:25 PM.
07-24-2009 at 04:25 PM.
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Many people are ignorant about race issues, even black people. She may have gone through some terrible things and has a negative view of white people. There may be valid reasons to her distrust. However, there are black people that have been through that and have gotten to the point where they aren't so angry and really understand racism and racial identity. I'm guessing she is young, and maybe with time she will learn more. I think that open conversation is a good start, be honest even at the chance of sounding ignorant a long as both parties understand that they have more to learn and don't intentionally say hurtful things. I think everyone has room to grow, and we need to be more understanding of other perspectives and experiences.
Yeah I bet you're all thinking she is about 19 or so, right? Wrong. She is 33 and college educated.
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07-24-2009 at 04:27 PM.
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Yeah I bet you're all thinking she is about 19 or so, right? Wrong. She is 33 and college educated.

To me, it sounds like she just wanted to pick up a fight. She probably felt irritated about something else the whole time and decided to take it out on you, to see if you would lash out on her and you didn't. I always want to say to people like that :"why dont you go get laid and you '' ll fell better".
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07-24-2009 at 04:28 PM.
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To me, it sounds like she just wanted to pick up a fight. She probably felt irritated about something else the whole time and decided to take it out on you, to see if you would lash out on her and you didn't.
I can tell you, it wasn't like that. She seemed very genuine and sure of herself with her opinions.
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07-24-2009 at 04:29 PM.
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Yeah I bet you're all thinking she is about 19 or so, right? Wrong. She is 33 and college educated.
Sounds like she has a lot to learn still....she may never get there, but if you do talk to her again be up front about things that she says are offensive and answer questions she might have. Some people won't change, but there are those who just need to talk to a more diverse group and learn more about themselves in order to really see the big picture.
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07-24-2009 at 04:29 PM.
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I can tell you, it wasn't like that. She seemed very genuine and sure of herself with her opinions.
In this case, God bless your patience.
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07-24-2009 at 04:31 PM.
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Yeah I bet you're all thinking she is about 19 or so, right? Wrong. She is 33 and college educated.
There is a VAST difference between being "book smart"/educated and having common sense.
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07-24-2009 at 04:33 PM.
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I agree with BG..I wouldn't have taken her anywhere. I wonder if you had gotten angry and said you WOULDN'T pick her up, if she'd have been like, "See? Racist." I think it was a really crappy question to ask you when you were being nothing but nice and SHE was badmouthing others.

I think I would have said "I dislike everyone equally." Stick Out Tongue
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07-24-2009 at 04:41 PM.
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On the ride home, she starts talking about Jews (I mentioned I was raised Jewish) and then she asked me why Jewish parents are so overbearing. I was so farking angry at this point so I counted to three and answered. I explained that you cannot say that all Jewish families have overbearing parents, and that mine are not, but they do want what is best for me. This went on for a bit and I was soooo angry. Eventually the conversation slowed down and then we were at her house.
Okay, forgive me if I don't see it. What made you so upset about her asking why jewish parents are overbearing? It was probably a question that she had for a long time and since she was having conversation with someone who was raised jewish.... she decided to ask.

Why did you get so angry? Sure it was a mild case of stereotyping but I don't think it was reason to be "so farking angry."
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07-24-2009 at 04:43 PM.
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Okay, forgive me if I don't see it. What made you so upset about her asking why jewish parents are overbearing? It was probably a question that she had for a long time and since she was having conversation with someone who was raised jewish.... she decided to ask.

Why did you get so angry? Sure it was a mild case of stereotyping but I don't think it was reason to be "so farking angry."
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07-24-2009 at 04:46 PM.
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Okay, forgive me if I don't see it. What made you so upset about her asking why jewish parents are overbearing? It was probably a question that she had for a long time and since she was having conversation with someone who was raised jewish.... she decided to ask.

Why did you get so angry? Sure it was a mild case of stereotyping but I don't think it was reason to be "so farking angry."
Sounds to me like she is saying she was already angry up till this point from the rest of the crap the girl said.

And I doubt the girl asked just because she was curious about UTRs life. It's obvious this girl had a major chip on her shoulder.
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Okay, forgive me if I don't see it. What made you so upset about her asking why jewish parents are overbearing? It was probably a question that she had for a long time and since she was having conversation with someone who was raised jewish.... she decided to ask.

Why did you get so angry? Sure it was a mild case of stereotyping but I don't think it was reason to be "so farking angry."
If you really must ask this, then I guess I'll elaborate a little. She also said things that Jewish parents care if their child is fat or thin and their education (doesn't everyone?) and that kids are never close to their parents. And honestly who the hell knows what else, I tried to stop listening but she said more than what I posted.
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tl;dr? gtfo then
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