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Breville Barista Touch Espresso Machine
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Here's the rundown:
Bambino — $240
Bambino Plus — $320
Barista Express — $480
Barista Pro — $560
Barista Touch — $720
Oracle Touch — $2,000
Fantastic deals, in my opinion.
My personal experience is with the Bambino Plus, which I think is a great little machine. With this discount you could pair a Bambino or Bambino Plus with a very nice grinder for a total price in the $400 to $600 range. The cool thing about that is you're going to be able to get a much nicer grinder than the one that they put in the Express and the Pro — which is considered the weak link in those particular machines. You're going to hear the experts say again and again that the key to getting good espresso is a nice grinder. I've also never been crazy about having the grinder and the espresso machine combined into one unit. It sorts of limits your flexibility, but that's just me.
Really though, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these machines. It all depends on your budget.
Edit: The Touch is Wirecutter's upgrade recommendation. The steam wand is top notch and that's something I've had issues with in the past with other machines, so I'm sticking with it.
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Here's the rundown:
Bambino — $240
Bambino Plus — $320
Barista Express — $480
Barista Pro — $560
Barista Touch — $720
Oracle Touch — $2,000
Fantastic deals, in my opinion.
My personal experience is with the Bambino Plus, which I think is a great little machine. With this discount you could pair a Bambino or Bambino Plus with a very nice grinder for a total price in the $400 to $600 range. The cool thing about that is you're going to be able to get a much nicer grinder than the one that they put in the Express and the Pro — which is considered the weak link in those particular machines. You're going to hear the experts say again and again that the key to getting good espresso is a nice grinder. I've also never been crazy about having the grinder and the espresso machine combined into one unit. It sorts of limits your flexibility, but that's just me.
Really though, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these machines. It all depends on your budget.
You guys don't need touch, it's also more prone to potentially break.
For those that want to compare models. https://youtu.be/pupR09CzRxI
Here's the rundown:
Bambino — $240
Bambino Plus — $320
Barista Express — $480
Barista Pro — $560
Barista Touch — $720
Oracle Touch — $2,000
Fantastic deals, in my opinion.
My personal experience is with the Bambino Plus, which I think is a great little machine. With this discount you could pair a Bambino or Bambino Plus with a very nice grinder for a total price in the $400 to $600 range. The cool thing about that is you're going to be able to get a much nicer grinder than the one that they put in the Express and the Pro — which is considered the weak link in those particular machines. You're going to hear the experts say again and again that the key to getting good espresso is a nice grinder. I've also never been crazy about having the grinder and the espresso machine combined into one unit. It sorts of limits your flexibility, but that's just me.
Really though, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these machines. It all depends on your budget.
If you're looking for something that's more likely to break, requires less involvement making a drink, and brews inferior coffee, go for the Phillips.
Not true. Please go check out my comments that I made in the Philips 3200/BT threads. I did a lot of research between the two. Both are actually good machines.
A value analysis on two Breville products, the BT and the Oracle. Did a bit of research on both.
The Barista Touch is overpriced at $999.99. True Value: $799.00
As is the Oracle at $2499.99. True Value: $1700.00
Apparently, The BT/Oracle costs Breville a lot to make. Some parts have to be assembled in Australia/Canada.
The Oracle being Breville's flagship is way overpriced $2499. One could buy the Rocket Appartamento for $1690 and pair it with a nice $700 grinder and one would still come out cheaper than the Oracle, You'd have a machine that brews espresso to another level, along with a much higher quality grinder, yielding you better brews. Sure, you've now gone semi-automatic, from automatic, but the difference is a screen.. the work is the same versus lets say a super automatic like the Philips 3200 (without the lattego) that involves the touch of a button, bean to cup.
The Barista Touch has the same issue as the Oracle, it's grinder is decent, but not great. If paired with a nice high end $1000 grinder, the drinks would dramatically taste better. (It doesn't get as hot as the Oracle, so not sure 'how much' of an improvement.)
A Gaggia Classic Pro($499) paired with a $1000 grinder 'can' yield you brews just as good as the Oracle,.. just because of the Oracle's grinder limitations(The Oracle has a decently good grinder, just not as good as a high end one by itself)
what I'm saying is, Understand the value you're getting with the Barista Touch. It's a good machine, but understand where it's weak and where it's strong. It's got it's own limitations. great entry machine for someone who wants to become a barista, doesn't want to do "all" the work. Figure out if another combo might be better for you. You might realize you want to spend a bit more and get a better machine/grinder combo. Like the Appartamento,etc
or you may want to go entirely super automatic. In my opinion, the future is Super Automatic. The consistency in these new super automatic machines is unmatched. They are becoming more and more popular, as they are becoming more affordable than they've ever been.
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Also, skip the screens. You don't need them.
My uncle has the oracle. The grinder on it is mediocre. Pretty sure its the same one mounted on various of their other cheaper models, but not 100% sure. If it was that lousy on that machine, well, prolly not better on their entry models. Self tamping is convenient but seriously gimicky. The auto froth tip is also gimicky.
On the issue of breville's being impossible to get parts for... Well-- yes and no. They aren't that hard to service yourself. You can replace a bunch of their parts using 3rd party stuff, youtube, and forums. Plus the things that kinda 'go' on these machines are the o-rings.
One thing you can argue is that the breville's have more 'features' that can break when compared to other simpler machines, such as the gaggia classic or silvia... If you look at it this way, then yeah-- the gaggia/silvia will have them beat on reliability and simplicity.
For what it's worth, I absolutely love the Oracle. I stepped up from the ninja coffee bar. Do not be afraid to experiment with your bean. Everything from grind to age to how long it's roasted affects the flavor.
Also, makes amazing hot chocolate.
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A value analysis on two Breville products, the BT and the Oracle. Did a bit of research on both.
The Barista Touch is overpriced at $999.99. True Value: $799.00
As is the Oracle at $2499.99. True Value: $1700.00
Apparently, The BT/Oracle costs Breville a lot to make. Some parts have to be assembled in Australia/Canada.
The Oracle being Breville's flagship is way overpriced $2499. One could buy the Rocket Appartamento for $1690 and pair it with a nice $700 grinder and one would still come out cheaper than the Oracle, You'd have a machine that brews espresso to another level, along with a much higher quality grinder, yielding you better brews. Sure, you've now gone semi-automatic, from automatic, but the difference is a screen.. the work is the same versus lets say a super automatic like the Philips 3200 (without the lattego) that involves the touch of a button, bean to cup.
The Barista Touch has the same issue as the Oracle, it's grinder is decent, but not great. If paired with a nice high end $1000 grinder, the drinks would dramatically taste better. (It doesn't get as hot as the Oracle, so not sure 'how much' of an improvement.)
A Gaggia Classic Pro($499) paired with a $1000 grinder 'can' yield you brews just as good as the Oracle,.. just because of the Oracle's grinder limitations(The Oracle has a decently good grinder, just not as good as a high end one by itself)
what I'm saying is, Understand the value you're getting with the Barista Touch. It's a good machine, but understand where it's weak and where it's strong. It's got it's own limitations. great entry machine for someone who wants to become a barista, doesn't want to do "all" the work. Figure out if another combo might be better for you. You might realize you want to spend a bit more and get a better machine/grinder combo. Like the Appartamento,etc
or you may want to go entirely super automatic. In my opinion, the future is Super Automatic. The consistency in these new super automatic machines is unmatched. They are becoming more and more popular, as they are becoming more affordable than they've ever been.
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