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PIONEER Speakers (Andrew Jones) $80 SP-BS22-LR -- $135 Dolby Atmos SP-BS22A-LR -- $65 SP-C22 center ch spkr -- $85 SP-T22A-LR Dolby Atmos Add-on Speakers

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1) $79.99 Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Speakers (Pair) [woot.com] OOS
*** 20% off next cheapest price. In the past week, over 30 pairs have been sold on eBay for $99 with no mention of a warranty***

*** There is some type of crossover mod that can be done to make these sound incredible ***
>>>This Youtube video of audio review BEFORE the mods. Only thing they did is some bracing inside cabinet, added insulation inside and wrapped in 3M vinyl.. WOW, with that red wrap!<<< [youtube.com]

Here is info on the mod: [audiokarma.org]
If link doesn't work, do an internet search for "Dennis Murphy Pioneer SP-BS22-LR DIY Modifications" located at audiokarmaDOTorg

Here is a detailed review of the SP-BS22-LR after the mod: [audiosciencereview.com]
If link doesn't work, do an internet search for "Affordable Accuracy Monitor Review" located at audiosciencereviewDOTcom



2) $134.99 Pioneer SP-BS22A-LR Andrew Jones Bookshelf Speaker, Dolby Atmos Enabled (Pair) [woot.com] OOS

3) $84.99 Pioneer SP-T22A-LR Dolby Atmos Add-on Speakers by Andrew Jones (Pair) [woot.com] OOS

4) $64.99 Pioneer SP-C22 Andrew Jones Center Channel Speaker [woot.com]

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1-10-2021 The proceeding was added to assist those not sure what value-based speaker they may want.

Below are reals reviews with real/very expensive testing equipment on other popular value-based small loudspeakers. So, while we all hear what we want to hear, the data is presented here. Measuring instruments don't hear what they prefer to hear. In the end, only you can determine what sound/speaker you like.


Sony SS-CS5 3-way Speaker Review on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions
"Boy, did I go into this review hoping for a great bargain at this price. Around $36 a speaker. Are you kidding me? Alas, that was not meant to be. I don't know what the objective scores are but subjective results are just too annoying for me to tolerate."

"I used to work for Sony and our company Madrona Digital is a dealer for Sony...Needless to say, I cannot recommend the Sony SS-CS5 speaker."



Polk T15 Bookshelf Speaker Review on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions
"The Polk Audio T15 hits an incredibly low price point while producing something that doesn't look like trash. Measured performance does show trash and good bit of it."

"I like to encourage you to save more money and buy the Pioneer if you can. Despite being much cheaper, I can't justify recommending the Polk T15 even though subjective performance was not horrible."



Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Bookshelf Speaker Review (stock/non-modified) on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions

"I remember meeting Andrew Jones at CES years ago when he had first brought out these (or was it the older generation) ones. I asked him what made them sound good and he said: "people making budget speakers put in 10 cent parts. I spend $1 and that makes a big difference!" Naturally there is more there in the form of a skilled designer than typical budget speaker."

"Overall, the mission is accomplished in designing a speaker that is not offensive despite its low cost. It looks good and seems to perform well."
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01-09-2021 at 01:35 PM.
01-09-2021 at 01:35 PM.
Quote from derekinla :
Good review of the SP-BS22-LR compared to the Sony SSCS5's from the Cheap Audio Man:

Link: https://youtu.be/SaEyofIQC44

Randy is great. He gives very specific examples in what he hears in certain songs to justify his opinions. Unfortunately though, opinions are subjective, so ultimately you'll have to compare your opinions on the same speaker(s) he reviews to get a baseline on how your tastes compare with his.
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01-09-2021 at 03:09 PM.
01-09-2021 at 03:09 PM.
Quote from JaredSD :
..., I have the full set sitting in a closet in case my girlfriend moves in and I have to convert a room to a man cave.
Misread this as "I have a full set in case my girlfriend moves OUT and I GET to covert a room to a man cave."
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01-09-2021 at 04:00 PM.
01-09-2021 at 04:00 PM.
Quote from jv3717 :
Got these from Newegg a while back. Excellent speaker for the price. Don't get me wrong, better speakers out there, but these are a great price/quality ratio at this price
I did too from the NE market place. Deal Parade sent me the speakers without atmos. In other words, they sent the wrong speakers. They tried to charge me for the return.
They just gave me a refund instead of doing the exchange. Sure glad this deal is back although I had to pay tax.
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01-09-2021 at 04:54 PM.
01-09-2021 at 04:54 PM.
Quote from pixelpusher15 :
Please do yourself a favor and do some speaker comparisons before committing to anything.

These used to be set up in my local best buy next to polks, sonys, and then some higher ends stuff like Elac, B&Ws and MartinLogans. Obviously, the higher end stuff would trounce anything in the price range but the Polks and Sony's made these sound like the speaker on your kids Vtech "laptop". They are not good and I have never understood the praise. I swear Andrew Jones is going around paying people to praise his speakers.

Anyways, my BB still carries all those other brands but not these. It's pretty easy to see why.
Thank you! Had bought these years ago and immediately returned them. Exactly for the reasons you stated. Next to my Polks these sounded like tinny toys. Never understood why people love these or would spend this much on garbage.
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01-09-2021 at 05:03 PM.
01-09-2021 at 05:03 PM.
Quote from jv3717 :
Got these from Newegg a while back. Excellent speaker for the price. Don't get me wrong, better speakers out there, but these are a great price/quality ratio at this price

Same here.. do you have the atoms add-ons, corious if it's worth it?
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Dwaelim
01-09-2021 at 06:07 PM.
01-09-2021 at 06:07 PM.
Quote from wherestheanykey :
Unless Andrew Jones is going to come to my house and set them up for me, I couldn't care less that his name is associated with a product.

It's like Beats by Dre levels of lacking humility, but at least Andrew Jones' name is only on the back label.

There are plenty of speakers that don't even have badges on the grilles, which looks far nicer IMO.

Dre just licenses his name to Beats, he's not designing them himself.

It's a very different situation compared to these where a well respected audio engineer actually had a hand in the development.

Also, why are judging speakers on how they look?
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01-09-2021 at 08:18 PM.
01-09-2021 at 08:18 PM.
Quote from Dwaelim :
Dre just licenses his name to Beats, he's not designing them himself.

It's a very different situation compared to these where a well respected audio engineer actually had a hand in the development.

Also, why are judging speakers on how they look?

Well I think that's his point.

When you say "where a well respected audio engineer actually had a hand in the development", aren't you judging these based on a name?

Just because he had a "hand" in it guarantees just as much as the "look" of it does on how it sounds.

Just look at all the varying opinions in here, there a vast many bias that influence what we hear.
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01-10-2021 at 04:09 PM.
01-10-2021 at 04:09 PM.
Andrew Jones designed this series, not had a hand in it. On the SP-BS22-LR, he designed the cabinet, crossover, etc.
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Below are reals reviews with real/very expensive testing equipment on other popular value-based small loudspeakers. So, while we all hear what we want to hear, the data is presented here. Measuring instruments don't hear what they prefer to hear. In the end, only you can determine what sound/speaker you like.


Sony SS-CS5 3-way Speaker Review on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions
"Boy, did I go into this review hoping for a great bargain at this price. Around $36 a speaker. Are you kidding me? Alas, that was not meant to be. I don't know what the objective scores are but subjective results are just too annoying for me to tolerate."

"I used to work for Sony and our company Madrona Digital is a dealer for Sony...Needless to say, I cannot recommend the Sony SS-CS5 speaker."



Polk T15 Bookshelf Speaker Review on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions
"The Polk Audio T15 hits an incredibly low price point while producing something that doesn't look like trash. Measured performance does show trash and good bit of it."

"I like to encourage you to save more money and buy the Pioneer if you can. Despite being much cheaper, I can't justify recommending the Polk T15 even though subjective performance was not horrible."



Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Bookshelf Speaker Review (stock/non-modified) on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions

"I remember meeting Andrew Jones at CES years ago when he had first brought out these (or was it the older generation) ones. I asked him what made them sound good and he said: "people making budget speakers put in 10 cent parts. I spend $1 and that makes a big difference!" Naturally there is more there in the form of a skilled designer than typical budget speaker."

"Overall, the mission is accomplished in designing a speaker that is not offensive despite its low cost. It looks good and seems to perform well."
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01-11-2021 at 12:53 PM.
01-11-2021 at 12:53 PM.
Would it be ridiculous to run these as surrounds in a small room? I keep looking for good surround options.
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01-11-2021 at 12:58 PM.
01-11-2021 at 12:58 PM.
I have had FS52 for close to 6 years and i recently powered them with a Emotiva Basx amp and they never sounded this good before with my Yamaha receiver
Emotiva amps being slightly bright and FS52 slightly veiled on top seems to be a good match
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01-11-2021 at 02:44 PM.
01-11-2021 at 02:44 PM.
Quote from pmason :
Would it be ridiculous to run these as surrounds in a small room? I keep looking for good surround options.

Yes you can run these as surrounds, your layout and distance to your seating position(s) will dictate whether it's feasible or not.

How they sound would be a completely subjective opinion but only yours counts.
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01-12-2021 at 07:21 AM.
01-12-2021 at 07:21 AM.
Quote from NotAClue :
Andrew Jones designed this series, not had a hand in it. On the SP-BS22-LR, he designed the cabinet, crossover, etc.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Below are reals reviews with real/very expensive testing equipment on other popular value-based small loudspeakers. So, while we all hear what we want to hear, the data is presented here. Measuring instruments don't hear what they prefer to hear. In the end, only you can determine what sound/speaker you like.

Sony SS-CS5 3-way Speaker Review on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions
"Boy, did I go into this review hoping for a great bargain at this price. Around $36 a speaker. Are you kidding me? Alas, that was not meant to be. I don't know what the objective scores are but subjective results are just too annoying for me to tolerate."

"I used to work for Sony and our company Madrona Digital is a dealer for Sony...Needless to say, I cannot recommend the Sony SS-CS5 speaker."



Polk T15 Bookshelf Speaker Review on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions
"The Polk Audio T15 hits an incredibly low price point while producing something that doesn't look like trash. Measured performance does show trash and good bit of it."

"I like to encourage you to save more money and buy the Pioneer if you can. Despite being much cheaper, I can't justify recommending the Polk T15 even though subjective performance was not horrible."



Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Bookshelf Speaker Review (stock/non-modified) on AudioScienceReviewDOTcom [audiosciencereview.com]
Conclusions

"I remember meeting Andrew Jones at CES years ago when he had first brought out these (or was it the older generation) ones. I asked him what made them sound good and he said: "people making budget speakers put in 10 cent parts. I spend $1 and that makes a big difference!" Naturally there is more there in the form of a skilled designer than typical budget speaker."

"Overall, the mission is accomplished in designing a speaker that is not offensive despite its low cost. It looks good and seems to perform well."
Lol did you read the comments on the review you dropped? From the people that listen to the pure measurements of things, they don't even like these. I think this speaker is the golden example of how measurements aren't everything when it comes to audio and that you should always demo and compare speakers before picking. Never just blindly follow a speaker review, no matter how favorable it is.

Hey, maybe these sound good with the high end amps and DACs that reviewers typically use when reviewing a speaker. All I know is that of the people that have heard these in person, the vast majority of them have not liked the speaker when compared with alternatives.
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01-12-2021 at 02:16 PM.
01-12-2021 at 02:16 PM.
I think you have blockage... you should add fiber to your diet.

I sent you a telepathic message earlier...
...I later sent you another telepathic message,
...I just sent you a 3rd telepathic message, and you have yet to respond.

I submit that you are a fraud, a false prophet. That in fact you do not possess the psychic abilities you claim to have. But, since this is all you know. As your penance, you must listen to 2 hours daily of high fidelity 70's disco on either a Soundesign or Emerson stereo system.
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All I know is that of the people that have heard these in person, the vast majority of them have not liked the speaker when compared with alternatives.


Here is another recent cheaper priced Pioneer SP-BS22-LR speaker thread $74 shipped).

You must commit to spread your information there. SWARM!
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01-13-2021 at 07:25 AM.
01-13-2021 at 07:25 AM.
Quote from NotAClue :
I think you have blockage... you should add fiber to your diet.

I sent you a telepathic message earlier...
...I later sent you another telepathic message,
...I just sent you a 3rd telepathic message, and you have yet to respond.

I submit that you are a fraud, a false prophet. That in fact you do not possess the psychic abilities you claim to have. But, since this is all you know. As your penance, you must listen to 2 hours daily of high fidelity 70's disco on either a Soundesign or Emerson stereo system.


Here is another recent cheaper priced Pioneer SP-BS22-LR speaker thread $74 shipped).
You must commit to spread your information there. SWARM!
Ummmm, what.
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01-13-2021 at 11:32 AM.
01-13-2021 at 11:32 AM.
Is this good? Would it be good with these speakers? It's also available on Newegg.
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